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Egypt Army gives Prezzo Mursi 48hrs to share power
Lolest!
#101 Posted : Thursday, July 04, 2013 9:56:13 PM
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McReggae wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
I maintain that whatever Morsi and The BRotherhood have done is a non-issue. The way of changing govt there is what is wrong and must be condemned. Remember Chief Moshood Abiola in Nigeria? Or Didier Ratsiraka in Madagascar? They were both elected but the army changed the govt. (in the case of Abiola, he didnt even gt to lead Nigeria). This is what I'm greatly opposed to. I dont like the whining too but it is army involvement that scares me most. See, some African states might follow suit and use the gun to oust elected govts. By the way, what we are cheering on is a bloody coup.


Bloody coup, I'm not sure: The natural coup is when the forces overthrow the garment, with protestors full on the streets.......bigger than when Mubarak was getting ousted......this is a hybrid between revolution and a coup!!!!

hehe..how many need to die for us to call it bloody? Btw, most coups are celebrated by people who are tired of status quo and hope in regime change
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Lolest!
#102 Posted : Thursday, July 04, 2013 10:01:30 PM
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@Doti, for the first time I agree with you 100pc. Man is bound to complain and be impatient with the elected leaders. We expect instant results. Morsi has messed up a lot but regime change esp with army involvement is dangerous. Egypt will have many of these going forward. Hope I'm proven wrong.
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Rollout
#103 Posted : Thursday, July 04, 2013 10:56:09 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
McReggae wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
I maintain that whatever Morsi and The BRotherhood have done is a non-issue. The way of changing govt there is what is wrong and must be condemned. Remember Chief Moshood Abiola in Nigeria? Or Didier Ratsiraka in Madagascar? They were both elected but the army changed the govt. (in the case of Abiola, he didnt even gt to lead Nigeria). This is what I'm greatly opposed to. I dont like the whining too but it is army involvement that scares me most. See, some African states might follow suit and use the gun to oust elected govts. By the way, what we are cheering on is a bloody coup.


Bloody coup, I'm not sure: The natural coup is when the forces overthrow the garment, with protestors full on the streets.......bigger than when Mubarak was getting ousted......this is a hybrid between revolution and a coup!!!!

hehe..how many need to die for us to call it bloody? Btw, most coups are celebrated by people who are tired of status quo and hope in regime change

Bloody coup? What about the coup on people's wishes that Africans experience every election cycle where their vote don't matter and riggings dictated the winner, what do you call that? What about elected government turning against it's people, what do you call that? We are so fast to point at the word coup and so slow to acknowledge that Africans face silent coups everytime, just because they are not couple doesn't make them better than military coup!
simonkabz
#104 Posted : Friday, July 05, 2013 2:58:13 AM
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Rollout wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
Rollout wrote:
Like I have said before, alot of Kenyans don't get what Egyptians are looking for, Kenyans are always quick to align with their tribes and ignore their interest.

The brokest Kenyans are the loudest in defending the unfaithful leaders yet they struggle everyday to meet their daily needs thats something I will never understand. I watched a protester getting beaten infront of the president and thousands of people during the resent national holiday celebration, it was shocking to see other kenyans cheering the security guys and the president not saying a thing about it so it is understandable when kenyans don't get what egyptians are looking for, it will be maybe 50 yrs before we get to stand up like egyptians are doing right now.


Kaa huko na usirudi huku kenya. Hatutaki ushoga na upuzi wa mzungu hapa. Im ready to live with the choice of Kenyans. Why not yap about the thousands who died in Libya a while back courtesy of your president?

Unfortunately, I have a larger stake in Kenya, people like you are just screwing the country yet they've invested coins that makes me mad.


Oh! So those Billions of Dollars you have invested here should have us cowering in fear of a nigger living in the white man's land? LOL! You need to get real, you sound like you live in a cave. You are INSIGNIFICANT these sides. Many People dont really care about the white man anymore, or the cheap threats and foaming on the mouths by their stooges, or the unsolicited diarrhoea by the hired guns like you and Makau Mutua.

Im one person who really campaigned against Uhuruto, But again Im one guy who believes in the will of the majority, Im one guy who believes the white man is sharp, im one guy who knows the white man is awefully selfish and cunning, Im one guy who abhores democracy as perpetuated by the white man. Im one guy who believes in the community of nations, globalization and civilization. But to me, a nigger putting all his hopes and aspirations on the white man is a traitor and should be shot dead and thrown into the ocean. A nigger who sells his soul to the devil at the expense of others belongs to the furnace.

My stand on international relations........stand by our foreign policy since independence........REMAIN NEUTRAL BUT FIRM-it has always worked world over. Find ways of living with the white devil, but not bow down like uncircumcised little boys every time they sneeze. Learn as a nation, that its far much better to DIE ON OUR FEET THAN TO LIVE ON OUR KNEES-many Kenyans know this.
TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
Ante_Christa
#105 Posted : Friday, July 05, 2013 7:28:35 AM
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Simon kabz,

your rant is unnecessary.

Rollout is not the 'enemy' to be put down as you are attempting to.

Projecting your anger on other issues some not even faintly related to the topic at hand on Rollout is not kind or honorable on your part.
chepkel
#106 Posted : Friday, July 05, 2013 7:50:05 AM
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Lolest! wrote:
@Doti, for the first time I agree with you 100pc. Man is bound to complain and be impatient with the elected leaders. We expect instant results. Morsi has messed up a lot but regime change esp with army involvement is dangerous. Egypt will have many of these going forward. Hope I'm proven wrong.


You guys seem to forget that this is not the first time the Army has taken over Egypt!!!!!

When Mubarak was ousted, the Army was in charge of Egypt under the SCAF. Supreme Council of the Armed Forces. Whey guided the country until the elections were done thereby handed over power.

By the way, Morsi had been declared unfit to hold office by a Court ruling about 2 weeks ago and he was supposed to step down. He had been found guilty of crimes against the people which included being involved in supporting violent crimes and criminal groups and thus considered unfit to hold office. However, he ignored the court ruling and was going to hold on to power no matter what. That is why people took to the streets extremely vigorously and were happy when the army came in.

You guys underestimate the Egyptian people. Coup or not, revolution or not, these guys are very united and they are determined to end poverty and elevate the status of their country. They are going to come out on top.
maka
#107 Posted : Friday, July 05, 2013 7:54:35 AM
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chepkel wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
@Doti, for the first time I agree with you 100pc. Man is bound to complain and be impatient with the elected leaders. We expect instant results. Morsi has messed up a lot but regime change esp with army involvement is dangerous. Egypt will have many of these going forward. Hope I'm proven wrong.


You guys seem to forget that this is not the first time the Army has taken over Egypt!!!!!

When Mubarak was ousted, the Army was in charge of Egypt under the SCAF. Supreme Council of the Armed Forces. Whey guided the country until the elections were done thereby handed over power.

By the way, Morsi had been declared unfit to hold office by a Court ruling about 2 weeks ago and he was supposed to step down. He had been found guilty of crimes against the people which included being involved in supporting violent crimes and criminal groups and thus considered unfit to hold office. However, he ignored the court ruling and was going to hold on to power no matter what. That is why people took to the streets extremely vigorously and were happy when the army came in.

You guys underestimate the Egyptian people. Coup or not, revolution or not, these guys are very united and they are determined to end poverty and elevate the status of their country. They are going to come out on top.


Uv nailed it...said it as it is...
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Rollout
#108 Posted : Friday, July 05, 2013 9:28:04 AM
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simonkabz wrote:
Rollout wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
Rollout wrote:
Like I have said before, alot of Kenyans don't get what Egyptians are looking for, Kenyans are always quick to align with their tribes and ignore their interest.

The brokest Kenyans are the loudest in defending the unfaithful leaders yet they struggle everyday to meet their daily needs thats something I will never understand. I watched a protester getting beaten infront of the president and thousands of people during the resent national holiday celebration, it was shocking to see other kenyans cheering the security guys and the president not saying a thing about it so it is understandable when kenyans don't get what egyptians are looking for, it will be maybe 50 yrs before we get to stand up like egyptians are doing right now.


Kaa huko na usirudi huku kenya. Hatutaki ushoga na upuzi wa mzungu hapa. Im ready to live with the choice of Kenyans. Why not yap about the thousands who died in Libya a while back courtesy of your president?

Unfortunately, I have a larger stake in Kenya, people like you are just screwing the country yet they've invested coins that makes me mad.


Oh! So those Billions of Dollars you have invested here should have us cowering in fear of a nigger living in the white man's land? LOL! You need to get real, you sound like you live in a cave. You are INSIGNIFICANT these sides. Many People dont really care about the white man anymore, or the cheap threats and foaming on the mouths by their stooges, or the unsolicited diarrhoea by the hired guns like you and Makau Mutua.

Im one person who really campaigned against Uhuruto, But again Im one guy who believes in the will of the majority, Im one guy who believes the white man is sharp, im one guy who knows the white man is awefully selfish and cunning, Im one guy who abhores democracy as perpetuated by the white man. Im one guy who believes in the community of nations, globalization and civilization. But to me, a nigger putting all his hopes and aspirations on the white man is a traitor and should be shot dead and thrown into the ocean. A nigger who sells his soul to the devil at the expense of others belongs to the furnace.

My stand on international relations........stand by our foreign policy since independence........REMAIN NEUTRAL BUT FIRM-it has always worked world over. Find ways of living with the white devil, but not bow down like uncircumcised little boys every time they sneeze. Learn as a nation, that its far much better to DIE ON OUR FEET THAN TO LIVE ON OUR KNEES-many Kenyans know this.


Hahahaha! seem like you are really mad at the "white man"!

Nevertheless, after reading what you wrote I am convinced you are the outlier since I don't think Kenyans think like you do.

But I understand exactly where you are coming from, in fact.... "like uncircumcised little boy" phrase captures vividly your environment, please get out and meet the world, where I come from, anyone who use the word "nigge" more than once in a sentence is perceived to be uneducated and therefore get excused.

I won't be hard on you, just make sure you are an asset to the country because it will be shameful to be loud yet broke!

I don't think you know a white person other than what you imagine, your level of hate towards the white man equal the KKK hatred towards black man.


simonkabz
#109 Posted : Friday, July 05, 2013 3:32:22 PM
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Ante_Christa wrote:
Simon kabz,

your rant is unnecessary.

Rollout is not the 'enemy' to be put down as you are attempting to.

Projecting your anger on other issues some not even faintly related to the topic at hand on Rollout is not kind or honorable on your part.


Anger? Not Me bro. Maybe Im too open n a bit abrassive. But characters like Makau Mutua...........there is no other way man. No apologies whatsoever.
TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
simonkabz
#110 Posted : Friday, July 05, 2013 3:46:59 PM
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Rollout wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
Rollout wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
Rollout wrote:
Like I have said before, alot of Kenyans don't get what Egyptians are looking for, Kenyans are always quick to align with their tribes and ignore their interest.

The brokest Kenyans are the loudest in defending the unfaithful leaders yet they struggle everyday to meet their daily needs thats something I will never understand. I watched a protester getting beaten infront of the president and thousands of people during the resent national holiday celebration, it was shocking to see other kenyans cheering the security guys and the president not saying a thing about it so it is understandable when kenyans don't get what egyptians are looking for, it will be maybe 50 yrs before we get to stand up like egyptians are doing right now.


Kaa huko na usirudi huku kenya. Hatutaki ushoga na upuzi wa mzungu hapa. Im ready to live with the choice of Kenyans. Why not yap about the thousands who died in Libya a while back courtesy of your president?

Unfortunately, I have a larger stake in Kenya, people like you are just screwing the country yet they've invested coins that makes me mad.


Oh! So those Billions of Dollars you have invested here should have us cowering in fear of a nigger living in the white man's land? LOL! You need to get real, you sound like you live in a cave. You are INSIGNIFICANT these sides. Many People dont really care about the white man anymore, or the cheap threats and foaming on the mouths by their stooges, or the unsolicited diarrhoea by the hired guns like you and Makau Mutua.

Im one person who really campaigned against Uhuruto, But again Im one guy who believes in the will of the majority, Im one guy who believes the white man is sharp, im one guy who knows the white man is awefully selfish and cunning, Im one guy who abhores democracy as perpetuated by the white man. Im one guy who believes in the community of nations, globalization and civilization. But to me, a nigger putting all his hopes and aspirations on the white man is a traitor and should be shot dead and thrown into the ocean. A nigger who sells his soul to the devil at the expense of others belongs to the furnace.

My stand on international relations........stand by our foreign policy since independence........REMAIN NEUTRAL BUT FIRM-it has always worked world over. Find ways of living with the white devil, but not bow down like uncircumcised little boys every time they sneeze. Learn as a nation, that its far much better to DIE ON OUR FEET THAN TO LIVE ON OUR KNEES-many Kenyans know this.


Hahahaha! seem like you are really mad at the "white man"!

Nevertheless, after reading what you wrote I am convinced you are the outlier since I don't think Kenyans think like you do.

But I understand exactly where you are coming from, in fact.... "like uncircumcised little boy" phrase captures vividly your environment, please get out and meet the world, where I come from, anyone who use the word "nigge" more than once in a sentence is perceived to be uneducated and therefore get excused.

I won't be hard on you, just make sure you are an asset to the country because it will be shameful to be loud yet broke!

I don't think you know a white person other than what you imagine, your level of hate towards the white man equal the KKK hatred towards black man.





Asii! Now I DEEPLY HATE THE WHITE MAN?????? Where did that come from? Show me! I dislike niggers like you and Makau. All you do is rant all day every day while calling fellow africans stupid and kissing the white man's arse. That is our point of departure. Then you think you are too sharp and enlightened, looking down on kenyans every second yet you dont sound too sharp anyway........you and Makau need to zip up, let us, the TRUE RESIDENTS (the scum of the earth as your block head tells you) define our future on our own, we dont need the bad breath of traitors pissing all over the web in a misguided frenzy from foreign soil.
TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
streetwise
#111 Posted : Friday, July 05, 2013 4:30:54 PM
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I am not a student of politics however I ask myself this many times ...and no answer.. what does the word democrazy mean..is it proven that it is the best form of govt is democrazy..is it possible indeed that the form of democazy we practise in African and world over is an abbreviation ..

I see whenever an election occurs anywhere ( expect Rwanda) we talk of 51%.... e.g. Egypt. what happens when the guys with 49% push back and gain 2 %.

I am sure someone has written a paper on this , please share
Rollout
#112 Posted : Friday, July 05, 2013 10:33:41 PM
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simonkabz wrote:
Rollout wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
Rollout wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
Rollout wrote:
Like I have said before, alot of Kenyans don't get what Egyptians are looking for, Kenyans are always quick to align with their tribes and ignore their interest.

The brokest Kenyans are the loudest in defending the unfaithful leaders yet they struggle everyday to meet their daily needs thats something I will never understand. I watched a protester getting beaten infront of the president and thousands of people during the resent national holiday celebration, it was shocking to see other kenyans cheering the security guys and the president not saying a thing about it so it is understandable when kenyans don't get what egyptians are looking for, it will be maybe 50 yrs before we get to stand up like egyptians are doing right now.


Kaa huko na usirudi huku kenya. Hatutaki ushoga na upuzi wa mzungu hapa. Im ready to live with the choice of Kenyans. Why not yap about the thousands who died in Libya a while back courtesy of your president?

Unfortunately, I have a larger stake in Kenya, people like you are just screwing the country yet they've invested coins that makes me mad.


Oh! So those Billions of Dollars you have invested here should have us cowering in fear of a nigger living in the white man's land? LOL! You need to get real, you sound like you live in a cave. You are INSIGNIFICANT these sides. Many People dont really care about the white man anymore, or the cheap threats and foaming on the mouths by their stooges, or the unsolicited diarrhoea by the hired guns like you and Makau Mutua.

Im one person who really campaigned against Uhuruto, But again Im one guy who believes in the will of the majority, Im one guy who believes the white man is sharp, im one guy who knows the white man is awefully selfish and cunning, Im one guy who abhores democracy as perpetuated by the white man. Im one guy who believes in the community of nations, globalization and civilization. But to me, a nigger putting all his hopes and aspirations on the white man is a traitor and should be shot dead and thrown into the ocean. A nigger who sells his soul to the devil at the expense of others belongs to the furnace.

My stand on international relations........stand by our foreign policy since independence........REMAIN NEUTRAL BUT FIRM-it has always worked world over. Find ways of living with the white devil, but not bow down like uncircumcised little boys every time they sneeze. Learn as a nation, that its far much better to DIE ON OUR FEET THAN TO LIVE ON OUR KNEES-many Kenyans know this.


Hahahaha! seem like you are really mad at the "white man"!

Nevertheless, after reading what you wrote I am convinced you are the outlier since I don't think Kenyans think like you do.

But I understand exactly where you are coming from, in fact.... "like uncircumcised little boy" phrase captures vividly your environment, please get out and meet the world, where I come from, anyone who use the word "nigge" more than once in a sentence is perceived to be uneducated and therefore get excused.

I won't be hard on you, just make sure you are an asset to the country because it will be shameful to be loud yet broke!

I don't think you know a white person other than what you imagine, your level of hate towards the white man equal the KKK hatred towards black man.





Asii! Now I DEEPLY HATE THE WHITE MAN?????? Where did that come from? Show me! I dislike niggers like you and Makau. All you do is rant all day every day while calling fellow africans stupid and kissing the white man's arse. That is our point of departure. Then you think you are too sharp and enlightened, looking down on kenyans every second yet you dont sound too sharp anyway........you and Makau need to zip up, let us, the TRUE RESIDENTS (the scum of the earth as your block head tells you) define our future on our own, we dont need the bad breath of traitors pissing all over the web in a misguided frenzy from foreign soil.


I thought you hate the white man since you called him more names that you called me. To be honest with you, I have never read anything from Makau fellow, but I will have to now.

Somehow you are so delusional that you think you speak for others but the fact of the matter is you are dreaming if you don't know that in this world you only speak for you so please drop the "we" and the "our".

Otherwise, you can hate me or Makau fellow or the white man as much as you want, and that is understandable because people like you are there to cheer or hate others and I am not trying to dimish the importance of the role you play( the role of cheering and hating) someone has to do it but make sure you don't get it too deep into you to the extend that you forget to build yourself in your own little. Note that if Uhuru step in NYC Makau will be having dinner with him.

The work of people like you is to shout sovereignty as loud as their empty stomach can allow while others are dinning and cashing checks, I wouldn't wanna take your place.



washiku
#113 Posted : Friday, July 05, 2013 10:49:48 PM
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#114 Posted : Friday, July 05, 2013 10:51:53 PM
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Wakanyugi
#115 Posted : Friday, July 05, 2013 11:09:42 PM
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Egyptians had better buy some comfortable tents.

They are going to be on the streets for a long time

(And this being the hamseen season and all...)
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McReggae
#116 Posted : Friday, July 05, 2013 11:31:26 PM
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washiku wrote:


AU always late to the party as usual!!!!
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maligumu
#117 Posted : Friday, July 05, 2013 11:54:59 PM
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Now i have to cancel my holiday. Will miss the nile, Alexandria and the pyramids. Plus my Sakara beer.
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InnovateGuy
#118 Posted : Saturday, July 06, 2013 10:21:51 AM
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Lets face it: this coup was ill-advised. How do you oust a democratically elected president after one year? There is a reason why leaders are given a mandate of five years.
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chepkel
#119 Posted : Saturday, July 06, 2013 10:26:24 AM
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InnovateGuy wrote:
Lets face it: this coup was ill-advised. How do you oust a democratically elected president after one year? There is a reason why leaders are given a mandate of five years.


Morsi was declared unfit to hold office by the Supreme Court in Egypt. He was accused of crimes against humanity and was asked to step down which he refused.

If the army had not stepped in, things would have become very bad.
chepkel
#120 Posted : Saturday, July 06, 2013 10:29:21 AM
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maligumu wrote:
Now i have to cancel my holiday. Will miss the nile, Alexandria and the pyramids. Plus my Sakara beer.


What you hear in the media is extremely different from what is on the ground!!!!

The streets of Cairo and Alexandria are safe and the protests are in very specific areas which can be avoided. Most people are going about their business normally.

Try STELLA she's very good beer!!!!
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