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Shak
#1 Posted : Wednesday, November 11, 2009 4:56:00 PM
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Having fought so hard for the presidency in 2007,what will raila choose to run for under the new constitution? A presidency with much reduced powers or an executive premier with enhanced powers?

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Magigi
#2 Posted : Wednesday, November 11, 2009 5:25:00 PM
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...his greed for power will see him fighting the new constitution. He is not any different. Just an idiot like the rest of them...
Shak
#3 Posted : Wednesday, November 11, 2009 5:35:00 PM
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Is that why he's insisting that kadhis courts be included? So that christians fight it thus scuttling the whole process?

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Kusadikika
#4 Posted : Thursday, November 12, 2009 12:47:00 AM
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@Shak,
There will be no such thing as executive prime Minister in the new constitution. If it is believe me we are going back to square one tena because italeta mgawanyiko just like the Wako draft and the No team will win again.

The biggest hurdle that any new constitution faces in Kenya stems from the Ringera ruling that required that it be subjected to a referendum. I would love to be wrong but I get the feeling this is a sure way to ensure there will never be a new constitution. Kenya's electorate nor any electorate for that matter is not capable of making an objective decision about the constitution. I do not mean this in a derogatory manner. A constitution is a complex document that takes a lot of legal knowledge to grasp in its totality. When presented in a referendum in which the only question is 'Yes' or 'No' it is easy for any politician to pick any segment of the complex document and rally supporters to reject the whole draft on that basis. An example is the current issue of Kadhi's courts. It is a harmless little thing that has been in the current constitution since independence but is now contentious or some people want to make contentious for their own reasons,more so financial ones.

If any self serving preacher (and there are many of them here parading as religious leaders) wanted to raise funds in say the Bible belt (Conservative Christian States) of the United States you cannot get a more catchy platform than,'We are fighting against the introduction of Islamic Sharia law into our constitution.' You will get more money on this platform than if you said, '60 percent of the country is dying of hunger.'

A referendum is an expensive and time wasting exercise that will divide and prime the people for violence like that which happened in 2007 however good the constitution prepared will be. It is open to hijack by politicians,religious people,business people and basically any interest group. 99% of the people will not know 99% of what they will be saying 'Yes' or 'No' to.

I do not think even the constitution of the US would survive a referendum if it were subjected to one and that is why,even for all his faults I will have to agree with Moi that the only chance we have at a new constitution is piecemeal amendment of the one we have. Total overhaul,haiwesmek!!!!!

Utamu wa asali.
McReggae
#5 Posted : Thursday, November 12, 2009 2:31:00 AM
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kadonye
#6 Posted : Thursday, November 12, 2009 4:02:00 AM
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@mcreg RAO is the biggest player in the 2012 polls.u wld kno its tru whn u walk into a mkt in central n mama mboga n the shoe shine guys r slowly supporting him @all,i think he wil want the status quo to remain.if we go parlmtary n he gets the premier post what wil stop the rutos of post 2012 frm impeaching him?my biggest worry for the new katiba is that the main players want the status quo 2 remain raila included...but i cant support it as it is.i dont see why i shd q to vote for someone who has no power while mps on being bribd decide on who runs the country.The problem with this katiba is that it was formulated by people who thought moi wld hold on to powr post 2002.

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Wendz
#7 Posted : Thursday, November 12, 2009 12:40:00 PM
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It would be too much of a gamble to choose premier - even if it was executive!

Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want.

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