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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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simonkabz wrote:chepkel wrote:tycho wrote:chepkel wrote:tycho wrote:
Why is dying for your country a virtue? Who, or what, are the Egyptians protesting against? Morsi? Mubarak? The army? The Islamists?
It's all a hoax. Dying for Egypt may mean killing the Ethiopians who are dying for Ethiopia. Dying for a country is dying for a barrier of selfish interest.
MAU MAU fighters and others who took part in the struggle for independence gave up their life, rights and freedom so that we could live in a just and free country!!! In deed its a virtue!!! So now you are living in a just and free country. That's why you think Kenyans are in a 'bad relationship'. Who, or what were the Mau Mau fighting against? An idea. Not white skin. They fought against the capitalist, and globalist idea. And how, and why did they fight this idea? The fight was for inclusion into the Capitalist and Global world. 'Independence' was 'assimilation'. And assimilation implies total 'surrender'. That is, we found justice by embracing what was previously 'unjust'. The Mau Mau are 'heroes' because their 'death' assuaged our collective conscience as we embraced what was initially revolting. Otherwise, why do you think the Mau Mau veterans have often complained of 'neglect'? Think about the recent case between the veterans and the British government. What was it really about? '50' years after the rebel won, we experience an event where the 'emancipated' is being compensated for his effort as a rebel by the former oppressor. That is, there's a struggle even now, in the collective subconscious. And as expected, the matter must be resolved by acting. The other day some veterans were asking to be compensated in Gold. And the drama continues in Tahrir and Wazua as 'revolutionaries' die in the hands of their 'greedy' and 'selfish' leaders. Am lost. You have used too many confusing words. Bottom line, people fight for freedom and justice...they may or may not get it, and that is why the fight still goes on. We would be sooo far behind if we did not have people who were brave enough to die for us. LOL! Ukijaribu kuelewa tycho utapata brain tumour. The dude brings up so many postulates you don't know which to respond to!!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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McReggae wrote:simonkabz wrote:chepkel wrote:tycho wrote:chepkel wrote:tycho wrote:
Why is dying for your country a virtue? Who, or what, are the Egyptians protesting against? Morsi? Mubarak? The army? The Islamists?
It's all a hoax. Dying for Egypt may mean killing the Ethiopians who are dying for Ethiopia. Dying for a country is dying for a barrier of selfish interest.
MAU MAU fighters and others who took part in the struggle for independence gave up their life, rights and freedom so that we could live in a just and free country!!! In deed its a virtue!!! So now you are living in a just and free country. That's why you think Kenyans are in a 'bad relationship'. Who, or what were the Mau Mau fighting against? An idea. Not white skin. They fought against the capitalist, and globalist idea. And how, and why did they fight this idea? The fight was for inclusion into the Capitalist and Global world. 'Independence' was 'assimilation'. And assimilation implies total 'surrender'. That is, we found justice by embracing what was previously 'unjust'. The Mau Mau are 'heroes' because their 'death' assuaged our collective conscience as we embraced what was initially revolting. Otherwise, why do you think the Mau Mau veterans have often complained of 'neglect'? Think about the recent case between the veterans and the British government. What was it really about? '50' years after the rebel won, we experience an event where the 'emancipated' is being compensated for his effort as a rebel by the former oppressor. That is, there's a struggle even now, in the collective subconscious. And as expected, the matter must be resolved by acting. The other day some veterans were asking to be compensated in Gold. And the drama continues in Tahrir and Wazua as 'revolutionaries' die in the hands of their 'greedy' and 'selfish' leaders. Am lost. You have used too many confusing words. Bottom line, people fight for freedom and justice...they may or may not get it, and that is why the fight still goes on. We would be sooo far behind if we did not have people who were brave enough to die for us. LOL! Ukijaribu kuelewa tycho utapata brain tumour. The dude brings up so many postulates you don't know which to respond to!!!! Hehehe!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2007 Posts: 8,776 Location: Cameroon
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Tycho, akili miiiiiiingi sana huondoa maarifa ondo ondo. TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2008 Posts: 2,721
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People of Kenya, people of wazua, watch, listen and learn.
There is a military coup in Egypt. The military topples a democratically elected president. This is what the British say:
The foreign secretary said on Thursday that "political reality" dictated that the UK maintain ties with the new regime and insisted that the UK "recognises states not governments".
Just a few months ago Kenyans were getting ready to go the polls and elect a president of their choice:
The UK said it would maintain only essential contact if a certain candidate was elected. The US warned of consequences of making certain choices.
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/26/2011 Posts: 759
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Like I have said before, alot of Kenyans don't get what Egyptians are looking for, Kenyans are always quick to align with their tribes and ignore their interest.
The brokest Kenyans are the loudest in defending the unfaithful leaders yet they struggle everyday to meet their daily needs thats something I will never understand. I watched a protester getting beaten infront of the president and thousands of people during the resent national holiday celebration, it was shocking to see other kenyans cheering the security guys and the president not saying a thing about it so it is understandable when kenyans don't get what egyptians are looking for, it will be maybe 50 yrs before we get to stand up like egyptians are doing right now.
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/26/2011 Posts: 759
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Kusadikika wrote:People of Kenya, people of wazua, watch, listen and learn.
There is a military coup in Egypt. The military topples a democratically elected president. This is what the British say:
The foreign secretary said on Thursday that "political reality" dictated that the UK maintain ties with the new regime and insisted that the UK "recognises states not governments".
Just a few months ago Kenyans were getting ready to go the polls and elect a president of their choice:
The UK said it would maintain only essential contact if a certain candidate was elected. The US warned of consequences of making certain choices.
Do you know how stupid it is to elect someone facing charges of crime against humanity as a president and VP? You don't know because you are a Kenyan! Egyptian Millitary are aligning with the popular demands of the people, the demands that are shared by all free people of the world. Kenyans were aligning with suspect of the worst crimes known to mankind. The UK looked at everything and came up with their own conclusion.
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/9/2012 Posts: 576
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McReggae wrote:Boniface Mwangi and Okiya Omtata need to travel to Egypt for internship!!!! No, Kenyans actually.our tolerance levels are extremely high.just see how governors are allocating fund's and no much public outcry Africa belongs to Africans.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2007 Posts: 8,776 Location: Cameroon
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Rollout wrote:Like I have said before, alot of Kenyans don't get what Egyptians are looking for, Kenyans are always quick to align with their tribes and ignore their interest.
The brokest Kenyans are the loudest in defending the unfaithful leaders yet they struggle everyday to meet their daily needs thats something I will never understand. I watched a protester getting beaten infront of the president and thousands of people during the resent national holiday celebration, it was shocking to see other kenyans cheering the security guys and the president not saying a thing about it so it is understandable when kenyans don't get what egyptians are looking for, it will be maybe 50 yrs before we get to stand up like egyptians are doing right now. Kaa huko na usirudi huku kenya. Hatutaki ushoga na upuzi wa mzungu hapa. Im ready to live with the choice of Kenyans. Why not yap about the thousands who died in Libya a while back courtesy of your president? TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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I don't think the issue in Egypt is democracy per say rather the bigger chunk of Egyptians feel economically deprived. Morsi was not so much concerned with wealth creation, rather he pushed his "Muslim brotherhood" agenda of making Egypt an islamic state. Its very difficult to change the culture of a people..more especially when they are hungry. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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murchr wrote:I don't think the issue in Egypt is democracy per say rather the bigger chunk of Egyptians feel economically deprived. Morsi was not so much concerned with wealth creation, rather he pushed his "Muslim brotherhood" agenda of making Egypt an islamic state. Its very difficult to change the culture of a people..more especially when they are hungry. He flatly refused, even attempt to unite the country!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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