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Egypt Army gives Prezzo Mursi 48hrs to share power
tycho
#71 Posted : Thursday, July 04, 2013 11:49:44 AM
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chepkel wrote:
tycho wrote:


Why is dying for your country a virtue? Who, or what, are the Egyptians protesting against? Morsi? Mubarak? The army? The Islamists?

It's all a hoax. Dying for Egypt may mean killing the Ethiopians who are dying for Ethiopia. Dying for a country is dying for a barrier of selfish interest.


MAU MAU fighters and others who took part in the struggle for independence gave up their life, rights and freedom so that we could live in a just and free country!!!

In deed its a virtue!!!


So now you are living in a just and free country.

That's why you think Kenyans are in a 'bad relationship'.

Who, or what were the Mau Mau fighting against? An idea. Not white skin. They fought against the capitalist, and globalist idea. And how, and why did they fight this idea?

The fight was for inclusion into the Capitalist and Global world. 'Independence' was 'assimilation'. And assimilation implies total 'surrender'.

That is, we found justice by embracing what was previously 'unjust'. The Mau Mau are 'heroes' because their 'death' assuaged our collective conscience as we embraced what was initially revolting.

Otherwise, why do you think the Mau Mau veterans have often complained of 'neglect'?

Think about the recent case between the veterans and the British government. What was it really about?

'50' years after the rebel won, we experience an event where the 'emancipated' is being compensated for his effort as a rebel by the former oppressor. That is, there's a struggle even now, in the collective subconscious. And as expected, the matter must be resolved by acting. The other day some veterans were asking to be compensated in Gold.

And the drama continues in Tahrir and Wazua as 'revolutionaries' die in the hands of their 'greedy' and 'selfish' leaders.

urstill
#72 Posted : Thursday, July 04, 2013 12:46:04 PM
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Out kabisaaa!!
Man must live!
chepkel
#73 Posted : Thursday, July 04, 2013 12:55:49 PM
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Location: Nairobi
tycho wrote:
chepkel wrote:
tycho wrote:


Why is dying for your country a virtue? Who, or what, are the Egyptians protesting against? Morsi? Mubarak? The army? The Islamists?

It's all a hoax. Dying for Egypt may mean killing the Ethiopians who are dying for Ethiopia. Dying for a country is dying for a barrier of selfish interest.


MAU MAU fighters and others who took part in the struggle for independence gave up their life, rights and freedom so that we could live in a just and free country!!!

In deed its a virtue!!!


So now you are living in a just and free country.

That's why you think Kenyans are in a 'bad relationship'.

Who, or what were the Mau Mau fighting against? An idea. Not white skin. They fought against the capitalist, and globalist idea. And how, and why did they fight this idea?

The fight was for inclusion into the Capitalist and Global world. 'Independence' was 'assimilation'. And assimilation implies total 'surrender'.

That is, we found justice by embracing what was previously 'unjust'. The Mau Mau are 'heroes' because their 'death' assuaged our collective conscience as we embraced what was initially revolting.

Otherwise, why do you think the Mau Mau veterans have often complained of 'neglect'?

Think about the recent case between the veterans and the British government. What was it really about?

'50' years after the rebel won, we experience an event where the 'emancipated' is being compensated for his effort as a rebel by the former oppressor. That is, there's a struggle even now, in the collective subconscious. And as expected, the matter must be resolved by acting. The other day some veterans were asking to be compensated in Gold.

And the drama continues in Tahrir and Wazua as 'revolutionaries' die in the hands of their 'greedy' and 'selfish' leaders.



Am lost. You have used too many confusing words.

Bottom line, people fight for freedom and justice...they may or may not get it, and that is why the fight still goes on.

We would be sooo far behind if we did not have people who were brave enough to die for us.
tycho
#74 Posted : Thursday, July 04, 2013 1:43:40 PM
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chepkel wrote:
tycho wrote:
chepkel wrote:
tycho wrote:


Why is dying for your country a virtue? Who, or what, are the Egyptians protesting against? Morsi? Mubarak? The army? The Islamists?

It's all a hoax. Dying for Egypt may mean killing the Ethiopians who are dying for Ethiopia. Dying for a country is dying for a barrier of selfish interest.


MAU MAU fighters and others who took part in the struggle for independence gave up their life, rights and freedom so that we could live in a just and free country!!!

In deed its a virtue!!!


So now you are living in a just and free country.

That's why you think Kenyans are in a 'bad relationship'.

Who, or what were the Mau Mau fighting against? An idea. Not white skin. They fought against the capitalist, and globalist idea. And how, and why did they fight this idea?

The fight was for inclusion into the Capitalist and Global world. 'Independence' was 'assimilation'. And assimilation implies total 'surrender'.

That is, we found justice by embracing what was previously 'unjust'. The Mau Mau are 'heroes' because their 'death' assuaged our collective conscience as we embraced what was initially revolting.

Otherwise, why do you think the Mau Mau veterans have often complained of 'neglect'?

Think about the recent case between the veterans and the British government. What was it really about?

'50' years after the rebel won, we experience an event where the 'emancipated' is being compensated for his effort as a rebel by the former oppressor. That is, there's a struggle even now, in the collective subconscious. And as expected, the matter must be resolved by acting. The other day some veterans were asking to be compensated in Gold.

And the drama continues in Tahrir and Wazua as 'revolutionaries' die in the hands of their 'greedy' and 'selfish' leaders.



Am lost. You have used too many confusing words.

Bottom line, people fight for freedom and justice...they may or may not get it, and that is why the fight still goes on.

We would be sooo far behind if we did not have people who were brave enough to die for us.


Lol.

Bottom line is the fight is misguided.
chepkel
#75 Posted : Thursday, July 04, 2013 1:56:23 PM
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tycho wrote:


Lol.

Bottom line is the fight is misguided.


Aaaahhhh!!!

Okay, which fight exactly do you find misguided???
McReggae
#76 Posted : Thursday, July 04, 2013 2:06:58 PM
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chepkel wrote:
tycho wrote:


Lol.

Bottom line is the fight is misguided.


Aaaahhhh!!!

Okay, which fight exactly do you find misguided???



I think it's man-god who is misguided!!!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
quicksand
#77 Posted : Thursday, July 04, 2013 2:20:21 PM
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Location: Nairobi
Slippery slope ....and if down the line it turns out to be self-serving, selfish Army, who will depose it?
It is not an Army's place to depose a democratically elected president, that is indiscipline, a power grab and taking a sh*t on people's constitutional rights. Morsi may have been lost and misguided but some rules are inviolate, armies are there to protect against foreign aggression (or suppress civil war), not to assume powers of the electorate.
Egypt has just stepped back 50 years.
Perhaps that is good for Kenya, time to rise as an African power to be reckoned with.
tycho
#78 Posted : Thursday, July 04, 2013 2:33:39 PM
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chepkel wrote:
tycho wrote:


Lol.

Bottom line is the fight is misguided.


Aaaahhhh!!!

Okay, which fight exactly do you find misguided???


The fight against symbols. Lol. How did the iconoclasts fare?
tycho
#79 Posted : Thursday, July 04, 2013 3:15:47 PM
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Joined: 7/1/2011
Posts: 8,804
Location: Nairobi
McReggae wrote:
chepkel wrote:
tycho wrote:


Lol.

Bottom line is the fight is misguided.


Aaaahhhh!!!

Okay, which fight exactly do you find misguided???



I think it's man-god who is misguided!!!!!


Of course we seem to be pulling in different directions, but that is the easiest way to sink.

But whose interest are we fighting for? 'The people'? Are we representatives? What about the self?

Sun Tzu asks us to know ourselves as well as our enemies; what question should follow? 'Who am I' or 'Who are we'?

Certainly the two are vital questions, but the most basic is 'who am I'?

'I am'. The name that can't be named.

Who, or what's my enemy? I have no enemies. I belong to everything, and everything, belongs to me.

I am Mubarak; I am Che. I am all history.

I am my enemy.

The greatest general is he who wins the enemy over. Sun Tzu tells us. How can this be, if I am not reconciled to myself?

The Egyptians aren't the only ones who feel oppressed. Poverty and oppression are a global 'fact'. By embracing names and symbols the 'revolutionary' loses the cause. For his identity is 'disintegrated' and he creates false enemies, and becomes blind.

Revolution has peace as its fruit. Revolutionary wind is peaceful wind.

Freedom, wholeness, and happiness everywhere. From Libya to Madagascar.

simonkabz
#80 Posted : Thursday, July 04, 2013 3:45:24 PM
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Joined: 3/2/2007
Posts: 8,776
Location: Cameroon
chepkel wrote:
tycho wrote:
chepkel wrote:
tycho wrote:


Why is dying for your country a virtue? Who, or what, are the Egyptians protesting against? Morsi? Mubarak? The army? The Islamists?

It's all a hoax. Dying for Egypt may mean killing the Ethiopians who are dying for Ethiopia. Dying for a country is dying for a barrier of selfish interest.


MAU MAU fighters and others who took part in the struggle for independence gave up their life, rights and freedom so that we could live in a just and free country!!!

In deed its a virtue!!!


So now you are living in a just and free country.

That's why you think Kenyans are in a 'bad relationship'.

Who, or what were the Mau Mau fighting against? An idea. Not white skin. They fought against the capitalist, and globalist idea. And how, and why did they fight this idea?

The fight was for inclusion into the Capitalist and Global world. 'Independence' was 'assimilation'. And assimilation implies total 'surrender'.

That is, we found justice by embracing what was previously 'unjust'. The Mau Mau are 'heroes' because their 'death' assuaged our collective conscience as we embraced what was initially revolting.

Otherwise, why do you think the Mau Mau veterans have often complained of 'neglect'?

Think about the recent case between the veterans and the British government. What was it really about?

'50' years after the rebel won, we experience an event where the 'emancipated' is being compensated for his effort as a rebel by the former oppressor. That is, there's a struggle even now, in the collective subconscious. And as expected, the matter must be resolved by acting. The other day some veterans were asking to be compensated in Gold.

And the drama continues in Tahrir and Wazua as 'revolutionaries' die in the hands of their 'greedy' and 'selfish' leaders.



Am lost. You have used too many confusing words.

Bottom line, people fight for freedom and justice...they may or may not get it, and that is why the fight still goes on.

We would be sooo far behind if we did not have people who were brave enough to die for us.


LOL! Ukijaribu kuelewa tycho utapata brain tumour.
TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
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