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Egypt Army gives Prezzo Mursi 48hrs to share power
simonkabz
#41 Posted : Wednesday, July 03, 2013 11:11:21 PM
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McReggae wrote:
Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly @thimioni....nini imekuumiza.....you are the one yapping now!!!.......bringing a big irrelevance to this thread, something is hurting you or you are a good entertainer!!!!

Meanwhile!!!!



I hate democracy. Read my long standing signature.Sad
TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
Seq Lu
#42 Posted : Wednesday, July 03, 2013 11:30:29 PM
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Instability defined ..
This has clearly been thought out really well. It almost feels staged for international media. The picture is that the military is not acting alone but in coordination with various authorities, including religious groups, and even various generational groups. As sugar coated as this step might look, this does not change from the essence that this was not done by legal means. A president that was elected democratically, no matter what one thinks of him, has been removed by armed forces, and this is called a coup d'etat.

If the Muslim Brotherhood resorts to violence like they did in 1970s, if they are pushed out of the political arena, they will be delegitimised once again and will have to go underground, which will be a terribly instability for Egypt.
They keep moving the cheese

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Wakanyugi
#43 Posted : Wednesday, July 03, 2013 11:37:57 PM
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McReggae wrote:
washiku wrote:
Look at what America has turned the once stable Egypt into!!!

America again, lol.



Shouldn't we be blaming RAO somewhere in here?

smile

"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
Wakanyugi
#44 Posted : Wednesday, July 03, 2013 11:43:07 PM
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simonkabz wrote:


Hii yenu ati DEMOCRACY = RAILA'S VICTORY AND THE TRIUMPH OF CORD BY ANY MEANS is just a bad tired joke.


Oooops! I wrote too soon.

My bad.


"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
Wakanyugi
#45 Posted : Wednesday, July 03, 2013 11:53:03 PM
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.[/quote]I hate democracy. Read my long standing signature.Sad [/quote]

Thimioni.

The second half of your signature talks about liberty...you think it is apropos for Egypt? -

Namely:

"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting over what to have for dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the result."

Well, the well armed Egyptian lamb just spoke.

Now what?

"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
McReggae
#46 Posted : Wednesday, July 03, 2013 11:53:52 PM
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Wakanyugi wrote:
McReggae wrote:
washiku wrote:
Look at what America has turned the once stable Egypt into!!!

America again, lol.



Shouldn't we be blaming RAO somewhere in here?

smile



Hapo juu hujaona mtu akileta jina lake????
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
dunkang
#47 Posted : Thursday, July 04, 2013 12:00:51 AM
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Morsi was not meant to last long. His hatred of Jews and forcing islam to the 20% coptic xtians is his undoing.

Egypt is too important in the middle-east for Israel to allow a 'stupid' leader.
Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi

Rollout
#48 Posted : Thursday, July 04, 2013 12:07:28 AM
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Lolest! wrote:
True democracy is where a govt looks up for its people? What does that mean? Is it our needs etc? Isn't that subjective? Egypt voted the brotherhood and now through unconstitutional means a section of them want the govt out. What is the purpose of democracy if there wont be order and a clear way of unseating incumbents? Egypt and Uganda are bad examples of army interference in politics.


@Lolest,
I don't think you really get it, Egyptians errupted because of the steps that the elected leader took after been elected. Mursi forgot how he got in and decided to ignore the aspiration of Egyptians who went to streets to remove Mubarak.

We also know that our kind of democary has no clear way of unseating incumbents, infact in our kind of democracy incumbents just serve their full maximum term, and their preferred man can pick up from where they left, elections are just a way to fool the people. By the way did you heard the Mugabe is democratically elected? So until there is a clear way of unseating incumbents, People will just have to do what Egyptians did.

Until people like you understand why Egyptians are celebrating, Kenya and Africa cannot change.
McReggae
#49 Posted : Thursday, July 04, 2013 12:10:45 AM
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....now all the other world leaders are silent waiting for what President Obama will say before they can react: POWER!!!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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#50 Posted : Thursday, July 04, 2013 12:27:08 AM
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This is a coup d' etat.

When will the country be stable?
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Wakanyugi
#51 Posted : Thursday, July 04, 2013 12:28:52 AM
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Rollout wrote:
Rollout...karopokwa:

We also know that our kind of democary has no clear way of unseating incumbents, infact in our kind of democracy incumbents just serve their full maximum term, and their preferred man can pick up from where they left, elections are just a way to fool the people. By the way did you heard the Mugabe is democratically elected? So until there is a clear way of unseating incumbents, People will just have to do what Egyptians did.

Until people like you understand why Egyptians are celebrating, Kenya and Africa cannot change.


Please...spare us the hot air.

So, the golden standard for democracy is the great US of A, right?

Let us look at the facts.

In 200 years, how many American Presidents have been 'unseated'? - by any means?

5, (Tano! ...Rora ciara na ndũgatare ngunyũ)

And 4 of them had to be shot.

"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
McReggae
#52 Posted : Thursday, July 04, 2013 12:32:41 AM
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Morsi/Mursi/Morsy insists he is still in charge.........fellows refuse to know when it is over!!!!

When will these people go home, how do they feed on the streets days on end!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
simonkabz
#53 Posted : Thursday, July 04, 2013 12:45:18 AM
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Wakanyugi wrote:
Rollout wrote:
Rollout...karopokwa:

We also know that our kind of democary has no clear way of unseating incumbents, infact in our kind of democracy incumbents just serve their full maximum term, and their preferred man can pick up from where they left, elections are just a way to fool the people. By the way did you heard the Mugabe is democratically elected? So until there is a clear way of unseating incumbents, People will just have to do what Egyptians did.

Until people like you understand why Egyptians are celebrating, Kenya and Africa cannot change.


Please...spare us the hot air.

So, the golden standard for democracy is the great US of A, right?

Let us look at the facts.

In 200 years, how many American Presidents have been 'unseated'? - by any means?

5, (Tano! ...Rora ciara na ndũgatare ngunyũ)

And 4 of them had to be shot.



I like this rejoinder. This Makau Mutua wannabe tires me out.
TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
simonkabz
#54 Posted : Thursday, July 04, 2013 12:47:26 AM
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I'm waiting with a bated breath for what the Democracy spokesman will have to say........read RAO.
TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
simonkabz
#55 Posted : Thursday, July 04, 2013 12:50:50 AM
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McReggae wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
McReggae wrote:
washiku wrote:
Look at what America has turned the once stable Egypt into!!!

America again, lol.



Shouldn't we be blaming RAO somewhere in here?

smile



Hapo juu hujaona mtu akileta jina lake????


LOL! d'oh! d'oh!
TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
Rollout
#56 Posted : Thursday, July 04, 2013 1:05:42 AM
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simonkabz wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
Rollout wrote:
Rollout...karopokwa:

We also know that our kind of democary has no clear way of unseating incumbents, infact in our kind of democracy incumbents just serve their full maximum term, and their preferred man can pick up from where they left, elections are just a way to fool the people. By the way did you heard the Mugabe is democratically elected? So until there is a clear way of unseating incumbents, People will just have to do what Egyptians did.

Until people like you understand why Egyptians are celebrating, Kenya and Africa cannot change.


Please...spare us the hot air.

So, the golden standard for democracy is the great US of A, right?

Let us look at the facts.

In 200 years, how many American Presidents have been 'unseated'? - by any means?

5, (Tano! ...Rora ciara na ndũgatare ngunyũ)

And 4 of them had to be shot.



I like this rejoinder. This Makau Mutua wannabe tires me out.


Makau Mutua? I guess is lives in a more mature democracy like I do so we probably might see things from the same eye!

By the way, what is the obsession with USA? Until you live in these western countries you'll never understand where I am coming from!
simonkabz
#57 Posted : Thursday, July 04, 2013 1:09:19 AM
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Rollout wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
Rollout wrote:
Rollout...karopokwa:

We also know that our kind of democary has no clear way of unseating incumbents, infact in our kind of democracy incumbents just serve their full maximum term, and their preferred man can pick up from where they left, elections are just a way to fool the people. By the way did you heard the Mugabe is democratically elected? So until there is a clear way of unseating incumbents, People will just have to do what Egyptians did.

Until people like you understand why Egyptians are celebrating, Kenya and Africa cannot change.


Please...spare us the hot air.

So, the golden standard for democracy is the great US of A, right?

Let us look at the facts.

In 200 years, how many American Presidents have been 'unseated'? - by any means?

5, (Tano! ...Rora ciara na ndũgatare ngunyũ)

And 4 of them had to be shot.



I like this rejoinder. This Makau Mutua wannabe tires me out.


Makau Mutua? I guess is lives in a more mature democracy like I do so we probably might see things from the same eye!

By the way, what is the obsession with USA? Until you live in these western countries you'll never understand where I am coming from!


So you think I live in the Congo bush? Wajifanya mzungu saaaaaana..........If I ever find myself thinking like Mutua I shall cut off my head and eat it!
TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
Lolest!
#58 Posted : Thursday, July 04, 2013 7:25:08 AM
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@Rollout, Egyptians are celebrating? Are you sure? Then why do we have rival rallies? I would say Egypt is split in the middle along pro/anti Morsi lines. I have serious misgivings about the brotherhood because of the way they mistreat my fellow Christians but that doesn't justify chaos and armed forces involvement in political process. If you make rules, live by them. And don't mistake it, the Mugabes of these world have popular support in their countries. It may sound stupid for one to back the geezer but that's democracy for you..
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Lolest!
#59 Posted : Thursday, July 04, 2013 7:31:07 AM
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The proponenets of regime change and army involvement in regime change, how is Madagascar doing? The last I checked DJ Rajoelina had become a high handed ffellow. This is the guy who caame to power at the back of a revolution ousting elected Ratsiraka. The same graft and human rights issues of back then are still there today if not worse.
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story teller
#60 Posted : Thursday, July 04, 2013 8:11:59 AM
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simonkabz wrote:
This is the reason I have a very low opinion of niggers who keep singing democracy every minute. Its a useless paradigm. For instance, in Kenya, the loudest advocates of democracy lost in the March 4th elections convincingly fair and square. They refused to ACCEPT the PEOPLE'S choice (the choice of the majority which is essentially the foundation of democracy). Now look at the Egyptians. Next time unasikia mtu anaimbaimba democracy TEMEA YEYE KIKOHOZI kwa mdomo.


Actually Egypt and Libya were ten times better off under their previous dictators..today I understand that Libya is like the wild wild west with armed gangs(read rebels) roaming around killing all..this insatiable greed for oil/natural resources will be the world's undoing..
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