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Correct me if I'm wrong murchr but I think the KNut realised that with the coming of SRC they needed to get their contracts done with. There is that particular piece of legislature that even the media wants to avoid. Any collective agreements not complete by June 30th were to be null and void. So they made sure they were on strike before then to ensure that the gov't stops delaying as usual and implements ALL their agreements. I have to say, KNUT are bright chaps. Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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alma wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong murchr but I think the KNut realised that with the coming of SRC they needed to get their contracts done with. There is that particular piece of legislature that even the media wants to avoid.
Any collective agreements not complete by June 30th were to be null and void. So they made sure they were on strike before then to ensure that the gov't stops delaying as usual and implements ALL their agreements.
I have to say, KNUT are bright chaps. I know nothing about that "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/27/2008 Posts: 4,114
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maka wrote:McReggae wrote:AG Githu Muigai: "It is totally unacceptable that litigants before any court or tribunal can choose what orders to be and which ones not to obey." So he pulls out that card only when it suits them!Who ignored the county commissioners ruling again? Order was overturned by Court of Appeal Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/6/2010 Posts: 741 Location: Nairobi
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murchr wrote:alma wrote:murchr, I will not go into that path either.
The question is and should remain. Is there a signed agreement between teachers and gov't that the gov't is refusing to honor?
Timelines, how much, who signed, why, who, what etc are what we call mist in the issue at hand.
If there is a contract lying somewhere, then the gov't should pay.
I tend to believe the teachers in this rather the gov't which as late as yesterday was saying that it will negotiate with what they have. Rather than implement what was promised. @alma, I dont think the govt has refused to honor it, rather the teachers feel that the programs the govt is running aren't worth it and they would rather be paid their money at once. (Blackmail, since when did they become policy makers) So since they are all playing hard, maybe its time the contract is re-examined...was it time bound? You know the govt too cant be forced to pay all at once esp if there was a formula as to how the money would be paid. In the 1997 memorandum of agreement, the government committed itself to paying medical, house, commuter, hardship and special education allowances. According to this same agreement, the Government tried to negotiate for an implementation period of 5 years. However, the teachers refused and thus the Government agreed to pay in 2 phases. The Government already implemented the 1st phase however, after that The Kibaki government refused to continue to honor this agreement. The Gava claims to have no money. However, i think there is a lot of wastages going round in this country. When we want to use 50 million for entertainment, 70 million for cars, 100 million for renovating a residence that no one has ever occupied. Plus makie our lives more difficult throug 16%VAT which will be used to buy more cars and planes. My God!!!! This Digital Government was supposed to bring new things and better ways of doing things. A little nip and tuck here and there will avail some necessary cash to take out country further.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/27/2008 Posts: 4,114
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Simplistic solution: Issue legal notice suspending learning in ALL schools including private ones. Issue another legal notice postponing national exams indefinitely Stop public service teachers' salaries until they return to work. Don't engage in any more talk. Wait and see how long they can hold out. In two weeks they will start going back to class. Reopen schools on a case by case basis as enough teachers show up and sign commitment to return to work. Strike will end within one month and never again will you hear of another strike in any public sector..... remember what happened to bankers some time in the 1990s? They all had to re-apply for their jobs! Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/21/2013 Posts: 2,841 Location: Here
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mukiha wrote:Simplistic solution:
Issue legal notice suspending learning in ALL schools including private ones.
Issue another legal notice postponing national exams indefinitely
Stop public service teachers' salaries until they return to work.
Don't engage in any more talk.
Wait and see how long they can hold out.
In two weeks they will start going back to class.
Reopen schools on a case by case basis as enough teachers show up and sign commitment to return to work.
Strike will end within one month and never again will you hear of another strike in any public sector..... remember what happened to bankers some time in the 1990s? They all had to re-apply for their jobs! A plan that can very easily backfire. M.O-1 tried it with medics in the mid 90s and suffice it to say, we're still paying for that. Meanwhile, Botswana, Namibia and lately, Zambia & The DRC continue to be the greatest beneficiaries of that blunder. To this day, there're less than 3000 medics on gov't payroll expected to serve all of Kenya. Life is like playing a violin solo in public and learning the instrument as one goes on.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/20/2007 Posts: 4,432
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Mukiha take this strike seriously. Even Moi couldn't tame them and he had more power than the present gov't will ever have. You fire the teachers and you will have a revolution in your hand. Remember, today some mpigs will be discussing VAT on Ugali. The cards this gov't has been dealt with are not for bravado but kusema na kutenda. Every day this goes on, it looks bad on gov't. As long as they continue paying mpigs 1 million and changing carpets in a house for 100 million, and buying houses for people who have retired, this strike will be one this gov't will blame for losing in 2017 to Dida. Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/27/2008 Posts: 4,114
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@alma; the assumption that the public has sympathy with teachers is false. Public is angry that our kids are not going to school.. we want teachers back in class pronto! For the avoidance of doubt, I do NOT support the teachers...and I have kids in public school. Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/17/2009 Posts: 3,583 Location: Kenya
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Rankaz13 wrote:mukiha wrote:Simplistic solution:
Issue legal notice suspending learning in ALL schools including private ones.
Issue another legal notice postponing national exams indefinitely
Stop public service teachers' salaries until they return to work.
Don't engage in any more talk.
Wait and see how long they can hold out.
In two weeks they will start going back to class.
Reopen schools on a case by case basis as enough teachers show up and sign commitment to return to work.
Strike will end within one month and never again will you hear of another strike in any public sector..... remember what happened to bankers some time in the 1990s? They all had to re-apply for their jobs! A plan that can very easily backfire. M.O-1 tried it with medics in the mid 90s and suffice it to say, we're still paying for that. Meanwhile, Botswana, Namibia and lately, Zambia & The DRC continue to be the greatest beneficiaries of that blunder. To this day, there're less than 3000 medics on gov't payroll expected to serve all of Kenya. medics are a different breed, and I doubt teachers would get chances outside the country - that said the plan will definitely work, but the political damage might be too much for the current president to stomach, considering the next elections.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/17/2009 Posts: 3,583 Location: Kenya
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alma wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong murchr but I think the KNut realised that with the coming of SRC they needed to get their contracts done with. There is that particular piece of legislature that even the media wants to avoid.
Any collective agreements not complete by June 30th were to be null and void. So they made sure they were on strike before then to ensure that the gov't stops delaying as usual and implements ALL their agreements.
I have to say, KNUT are bright chaps. Din't know that, if that's the case the knut guys must have very sound legal advice - but would a strike before june 30th nullify the said piece of legislature
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