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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/31/2008 Posts: 7,081 Location: Kenya
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McReggae wrote:The Indutrial court has orderd teachers to resume work by 90am tomorrow. Labour ministry ordered to lead the negotiatins and report back to the court on 15th July, 2013!!!!
What will give???? ...Dont think they will resume...Unless they have not heard of the waste in our gova...100M for renovation of a residence...250m for a retired prezzo...Really why would they give in?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/22/2009 Posts: 2,449 Location: Africa
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Magigi wrote:McReggae wrote:The Indutrial court has orderd teachers to resume work by 90am tomorrow. Labour ministry ordered to lead the negotiatins and report back to the court on 15th July, 2013!!!!
What will give???? ...Dont think they will resume...Unless they have not heard of the waste in our gova...100M for renovation of a residence...250m for a retired prezzo...Really why would they give in? Isn't it an offence to defy a court order?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/20/2009 Posts: 1,402
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Shak wrote:Magigi wrote:McReggae wrote:The Indutrial court has orderd teachers to resume work by 90am tomorrow. Labour ministry ordered to lead the negotiatins and report back to the court on 15th July, 2013!!!!
What will give???? ...Dont think they will resume...Unless they have not heard of the waste in our gova...100M for renovation of a residence...250m for a retired prezzo...Really why would they give in? Isn't it an offence to defy a court order? YES. When you are alone...watakukunjia When in a multitude? of a number like 280k? 
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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Muheani wrote:Shak wrote:Magigi wrote:McReggae wrote:The Indutrial court has orderd teachers to resume work by 90am tomorrow. Labour ministry ordered to lead the negotiatins and report back to the court on 15th July, 2013!!!!
What will give???? ...Dont think they will resume...Unless they have not heard of the waste in our gova...100M for renovation of a residence...250m for a retired prezzo...Really why would they give in? Isn't it an offence to defy a court order? YES. When you are alone...watakukunjia When in a multitude? of a number like 280k? But now the govt might use it to deny them salos on this basis if they dont go back to class.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/27/2008 Posts: 4,114
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:If I was the Jubilee govt, I would transfer the provision of basic education to the county gava and transfer the actual running of schools to parents. But clinging to power blindly is what drives down our country.
Private schools are doing very well with profit motive in mind, imagine what parents could do if allowed to run schools where their children learn.
Having said that, Teachers must get their due. The gava signed and they need to make good their end of the bargain.
The laptop program for hungry children must GO. My children are in public primary school and the Board of Management is elected every year from the parent community. 11 members, one for each class from Nursery to Std 8, and one each representing lower primary and upper primary. The only non-parent in the Board is the Headmaster who is the secretary. So, what you are asking for is already in place! Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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KNUT to address a press conference in response to the Court ruling!!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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mukiha wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:If I was the Jubilee govt, I would transfer the provision of basic education to the county gava and transfer the actual running of schools to parents. But clinging to power blindly is what drives down our country.
Private schools are doing very well with profit motive in mind, imagine what parents could do if allowed to run schools where their children learn.
Having said that, Teachers must get their due. The gava signed and they need to make good their end of the bargain.
The laptop program for hungry children must GO. My children are in public primary school and the Board of Management is elected every year from the parent community. 11 members, one for each class from Nursery to Std 8, and one each representing lower primary and upper primary. The only non-parent in the Board is the Headmaster who is the secretary. So, what you are asking for is already in place! Bwana @mukiha, is this Nairobi Primary??? ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/27/2008 Posts: 4,114
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maka wrote:Lolest! wrote:McReggae wrote:Lolest! wrote:murchr wrote:Arent teachers overpaid compared to other civil servants? Ho come no one is mentioning the desks now? I have heard this too. I hear a graduate teacher is earning 50k and principals earning 250k. Kweli au rongo? Rongo!!!! how much for graduate teacher, principal, snr principal etc? 30 years in service you get a gross of 56000 bob.. What do you expect if in those 30 years you've been doing the same thing with the same qualification? And I am not belittling teaching; I hold it in very high esteem. But, if you want to earn more, you must do more! Otherwise, be content and only expect nominal increment to hedge against inflation... So the question is: How much was the salary in 1983? The CPI was 5.32 in 1983 and 132.5 in 2012 - about 25 times (Source HERE)... If the 1983 salary was about Sh2,250, then the said teach should not complain! Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/15/2012 Posts: 1,110
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Power corrupts. Too bad if it corrupts absolutely. Just because he leads a huge movement does not not mean that he's above the law! Live Full Die Empty - Les Brown.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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This sounds arrogant. I thought courts are the highest arbiters on the land. Is there any one time he might need them?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/27/2008 Posts: 4,114
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Site the fellow for contempt of court Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/31/2008 Posts: 7,081 Location: Kenya
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mukiha wrote:Site the fellow for contempt of court if we listened to the chief justice and moved on, who is this fella who thinks he has balls of steel.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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mukiha wrote:maka wrote:Lolest! wrote:McReggae wrote:Lolest! wrote:murchr wrote:Arent teachers overpaid compared to other civil servants? Ho come no one is mentioning the desks now? I have heard this too. I hear a graduate teacher is earning 50k and principals earning 250k. Kweli au rongo? Rongo!!!! how much for graduate teacher, principal, snr principal etc? 30 years in service you get a gross of 56000 bob.. What do you expect if in those 30 years you've been doing the same thing with the same qualification? And I am not belittling teaching; I hold it in very high esteem. But, if you want to earn more, you must do more! Otherwise, be content and only expect nominal increment to hedge against inflation... So the question is: How much was the salary in 1983? The CPI was 5.32 in 1983 and 132.5 in 2012 - about 25 times (Source HERE)... If the 1983 salary was about Sh2,250, then the said teach should not complain! Thats a very sad statement from you... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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Teachers stop wasting our time and go back to class... They can't interprete the law even if they tried so what is the basis of there argument?? Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/27/2008 Posts: 4,114
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maka wrote:mukiha wrote:maka wrote:Lolest! wrote:McReggae wrote:Lolest! wrote:murchr wrote:Arent teachers overpaid compared to other civil servants? Ho come no one is mentioning the desks now? I have heard this too. I hear a graduate teacher is earning 50k and principals earning 250k. Kweli au rongo? Rongo!!!! how much for graduate teacher, principal, snr principal etc? 30 years in service you get a gross of 56000 bob.. What do you expect if in those 30 years you've been doing the same thing with the same qualification? And I am not belittling teaching; I hold it in very high esteem. But, if you want to earn more, you must do more! Otherwise, be content and only expect nominal increment to hedge against inflation... So the question is: How much was the salary in 1983? The CPI was 5.32 in 1983 and 132.5 in 2012 - about 25 times (Source HERE)... If the 1983 salary was about Sh2,250, then the said teach should not complain! Thats a very sad statement from you... Would you have preferred that it came from some one else? In my opinion, people should only get a pay rise for two reasons: [1] to hedge against inflation and [2] when they do more work. When you stay at the same place for many years, your dedication is compensated for by your pension; not by a higher salary! Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/25/2007 Posts: 1,574
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maka wrote:mukiha wrote:maka wrote:Lolest! wrote:McReggae wrote:Lolest! wrote:murchr wrote:Arent teachers overpaid compared to other civil servants? Ho come no one is mentioning the desks now? I have heard this too. I hear a graduate teacher is earning 50k and principals earning 250k. Kweli au rongo? Rongo!!!! how much for graduate teacher, principal, snr principal etc? 30 years in service you get a gross of 56000 bob.. What do you expect if in those 30 years you've been doing the same thing with the same qualification? And I am not belittling teaching; I hold it in very high esteem. But, if you want to earn more, you must do more! Otherwise, be content and only expect nominal increment to hedge against inflation... So the question is: How much was the salary in 1983? The CPI was 5.32 in 1983 and 132.5 in 2012 - about 25 times (Source HERE)... If the 1983 salary was about Sh2,250, then the said teach should not complain! Thats a very sad statement from you... No, Maka. I second Mukiha. Teachers are the BEST paid civil servants in Kenya! Check the salary scale that I uploaded earlier. A trained graduate teacher earns a starting basic salary of 26323 per month. Add allowances. And they work 9 months in a year. Set out to correct the world's wrongs and you will most certainly wind up adding to them.
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