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jaggernaut
#41 Posted : Sunday, June 30, 2013 8:26:03 PM
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butterflyke wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
As a Nairobi resident, am asking myself why people are opposing giving laptops to kids at Nairobi primary, Buruburu primary, Moi avenue primary, Lavington primary, Westlands primary, kasarani primary, Umoja primary, kibera Olympic, langata primary, Karen C primary and other govt schools. After all most private schools in nairobi, including the one my kids attend, have computer classes starting class one. Or you are worried that your watchmens' children, who go to govt schools, will be using laptops like your kids. I won't talk about rural counties but if governors can afford 53m for entertainment, then surely they can afford to build a few classes.
Also note that the age of desktops is gone, just like the one of landlines.



what is the priority? building classrooms or buying laptops for kids in govt schools? and what about the renumeration for the teachers in those schools? are all other facilities catered for?

what is going to give these kids a better chance at education collectively? i doubt that it is buying laptops.....my raia cents (since 16%vat would apply if it was my 2 cents)

As Nairobians, do we really need to build more classes at Moi avenue primary, Garden estate primary, Kangemi primary, Kayole primary, kileleshwa primary etc? I think the ones we have are sufficient.
nakujua
#42 Posted : Sunday, June 30, 2013 8:28:32 PM
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githundi wrote:
McReggae wrote:
I shake my head when some 'right' thinking niggas defend the laptop project as a priority for this country, please guys you can only suck up as much......don't lose your head and faculties while at it.......SORRY.

This does not mean you should use such language with those you differ with.
You sound like a person looking down on those you differ with.

the chief has spoken - don't you dare question him/her.
repeat after me, the laptop project for the public school kids is a waste - that should make our chief happy, we don't want to anger him
jaggernaut
#43 Posted : Sunday, June 30, 2013 8:33:34 PM
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Joined: 10/9/2008
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mawinder wrote:
githundi wrote:
McReggae wrote:
I shake my head when some 'right' thinking niggas defend the laptop project as a priority for this country, please guys you can only suck up as much......don't lose your head and faculties while at it.......SORRY.

This does not mean you should use such language with those you differ with.
You sound like a person looking down on those you differ with.

53b is enough to revamp agriculture or ensure each county gets a health centre worth 1b.No right thinking kenyan should support such a white elephant apart from Uhuruto and his ilk.

The billions that the US spends to send just one shuttle into space are enough to provide housing and Medicare to millions of poor Americans. Does this mean Obama has his priorities wrong?
nakujua
#44 Posted : Sunday, June 30, 2013 8:36:50 PM
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Location: Kenya
jaggernaut wrote:
butterflyke wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
As a Nairobi resident, am asking myself why people are opposing giving laptops to kids at Nairobi primary, Buruburu primary, Moi avenue primary, Lavington primary, Westlands primary, kasarani primary, Umoja primary, kibera Olympic, langata primary, Karen C primary and other govt schools. After all most private schools in nairobi, including the one my kids attend, have computer classes starting class one. Or you are worried that your watchmens' children, who go to govt schools, will be using laptops like your kids. I won't talk about rural counties but if governors can afford 53m for entertainment, then surely they can afford to build a few classes.
Also note that the age of desktops is gone, just like the one of landlines.



what is the priority? building classrooms or buying laptops for kids in govt schools? and what about the renumeration for the teachers in those schools? are all other facilities catered for?

what is going to give these kids a better chance at education collectively? i doubt that it is buying laptops.....my raia cents (since 16%vat would apply if it was my 2 cents)

As Nairobians, do we really need to build more classes at Moi avenue primary, Garden estate primary, Kangemi primary, Kayole primary, kileleshwa primary etc? I think the ones we have are sufficient.

laptops are a source of information just like books, I don't even know why the comparison of provision of laptops to building classes or paying teachers comes from - there are some ongoing experiments at providing kids in rural area schools in kenya with tablets, and the amount of information that the kids have access to from the devices is great, and it would be too expensive if the same was to be provides via paper text books.
tycho
#45 Posted : Sunday, June 30, 2013 8:37:31 PM
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jaggernaut wrote:
tycho wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
As a Nairobi resident am asking why people are opposing giving laptops to kids at Nairobi primary, Buruburu primary, Moi avenue primary, Lavington primary, Westlands primary, kasarani primary, Umoja primary, kibera Olympic and other govt schools. After all most private schools have computer classes starting class one. I won't talk about rural counties but if governors can afford 53m for entertainment, then surely they can afford to build a few classes.


Why should they be given? Will they also be 'given' maintenance allowance?

Why is the government still funding schools?


The laptops, just like text books issued to pupils by schools, will remain the property of schools.


Doesn't this raise costs, corruption, and in a sense, create lags in technological change?

There was a time when schools were providing desks, nowadays I see parents buying and maintaining them.

Text books? This has never been done efficiently in our schools.
butterflyke
#46 Posted : Sunday, June 30, 2013 8:39:38 PM
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jaggernaut wrote:
butterflyke wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
As a Nairobi resident, am asking myself why people are opposing giving laptops to kids at Nairobi primary, Buruburu primary, Moi avenue primary, Lavington primary, Westlands primary, kasarani primary, Umoja primary, kibera Olympic, langata primary, Karen C primary and other govt schools. After all most private schools in nairobi, including the one my kids attend, have computer classes starting class one. Or you are worried that your watchmens' children, who go to govt schools, will be using laptops like your kids. I won't talk about rural counties but if governors can afford 53m for entertainment, then surely they can afford to build a few classes.
Also note that the age of desktops is gone, just like the one of landlines.



what is the priority? building classrooms or buying laptops for kids in govt schools? and what about the renumeration for the teachers in those schools? are all other facilities catered for?

what is going to give these kids a better chance at education collectively? i doubt that it is buying laptops.....my raia cents (since 16%vat would apply if it was my 2 cents)

As Nairobians, do we really need to build more classes at Moi avenue primary, Garden estate primary, Kangemi primary, Kayole primary, kileleshwa primary etc? I think the ones we have are sufficient.



classrooms dont make an education, that is why i mentioned other facilities and teachers pay...if all these are catered for, then we talk technological advancement...
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nakujua
#47 Posted : Sunday, June 30, 2013 8:43:59 PM
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Joined: 12/17/2009
Posts: 3,583
Location: Kenya
jaggernaut wrote:
mawinder wrote:
githundi wrote:
McReggae wrote:
I shake my head when some 'right' thinking niggas defend the laptop project as a priority for this country, please guys you can only suck up as much......don't lose your head and faculties while at it.......SORRY.

This does not mean you should use such language with those you differ with.
You sound like a person looking down on those you differ with.

53b is enough to revamp agriculture or ensure each county gets a health centre worth 1b.No right thinking kenyan should support such a white elephant apart from Uhuruto and his ilk.

The billions that the US spends to send just one shuttle into space are enough to provide housing and Medicare to millions of poor Americans. Does this mean Obama has his priorities wrong?

good point, plus if well implemented it might actually save some cash - the information the kids can get exposed to via electronic devices is way more than the government of local communities can achieve in trying to build more classrooms and libraries, while efforts should still continue in improving latter - laptops to kids if well implemented will have a bigger positive impact on the country
maka
#48 Posted : Sunday, June 30, 2013 8:47:33 PM
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Joined: 4/22/2010
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Location: Nairobi
nakujua wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
mawinder wrote:
githundi wrote:
McReggae wrote:
I shake my head when some 'right' thinking niggas defend the laptop project as a priority for this country, please guys you can only suck up as much......don't lose your head and faculties while at it.......SORRY.

This does not mean you should use such language with those you differ with.
You sound like a person looking down on those you differ with.

53b is enough to revamp agriculture or ensure each county gets a health centre worth 1b.No right thinking kenyan should support such a white elephant apart from Uhuruto and his ilk.

The billions that the US spends to send just one shuttle into space are enough to provide housing and Medicare to millions of poor Americans. Does this mean Obama has his priorities wrong?

good point, plus if well implemented it might actually save some cash - the information the kids can get exposed to via electronic devices is way more than the government of local communities can achieve in trying to build more classrooms and libraries, while efforts should still continue in improving latter - laptops to kids if well implemented will have a bigger positive impact on the country

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nakujua
#49 Posted : Sunday, June 30, 2013 8:49:43 PM
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Joined: 12/17/2009
Posts: 3,583
Location: Kenya
butterflyke wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
butterflyke wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
As a Nairobi resident, am asking myself why people are opposing giving laptops to kids at Nairobi primary, Buruburu primary, Moi avenue primary, Lavington primary, Westlands primary, kasarani primary, Umoja primary, kibera Olympic, langata primary, Karen C primary and other govt schools. After all most private schools in nairobi, including the one my kids attend, have computer classes starting class one. Or you are worried that your watchmens' children, who go to govt schools, will be using laptops like your kids. I won't talk about rural counties but if governors can afford 53m for entertainment, then surely they can afford to build a few classes.
Also note that the age of desktops is gone, just like the one of landlines.



what is the priority? building classrooms or buying laptops for kids in govt schools? and what about the renumeration for the teachers in those schools? are all other facilities catered for?

what is going to give these kids a better chance at education collectively? i doubt that it is buying laptops.....my raia cents (since 16%vat would apply if it was my 2 cents)

As Nairobians, do we really need to build more classes at Moi avenue primary, Garden estate primary, Kangemi primary, Kayole primary, kileleshwa primary etc? I think the ones we have are sufficient.



classrooms dont make an education, that is why i mentioned other facilities and teachers pay...if all these are catered for, then we talk technological advancement...

teachers will never get enough pay, that's an issue that will always be negotiated - laptops might provide an efficient system of knowledge dissemination which is the gist of an education system
githundi
#50 Posted : Sunday, June 30, 2013 8:52:52 PM
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Joined: 11/19/2010
Posts: 1,308
Location: nairobi metropolitan
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mawinder wrote:
githundi wrote:
McReggae wrote:
I shake my head when some 'right' thinking niggas defend the laptop project as a priority for this country, please guys you can only suck up as much......don't lose your head and faculties while at it.......SORRY.

This does not mean you should use such language with those you differ with.
You sound like a person looking down on those you differ with.

53b is enough to revamp agriculture or ensure each county gets a health centre worth 1b.No right thinking kenyan should support such a white elephant apart from Uhuruto and his ilk.

@ mawinder, I don't even support the laptop project.
I have a problem with @ McReggae's intolerance to people of differing opinions. I would call it superiority complex.
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