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nyari
#81 Posted : Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:03:00 PM
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Hi Lo,I keep hearing 175 M every time I ask around about the Olympia Sale. Does it have anything to do with the current value of the assets or is it the sale proceeds of the assets?
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VituVingiSana
#82 Posted : Wednesday, June 24, 2009 7:36:00 PM
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Debt+Equity = Purchase Price

@Hi-Lo: [I know you know but just an example] Say you buy a car for 1,000,000 and put down 200,000. Borrow 800,000. If you default your loss is capped at 200,000 UNLESS you had a personal guarantee or other assets as collateral. The bank will sell the car & hope to recover 800,000.

Olympia needs to tell us what the CONTINGENT liabilities (if the bank can't get its entire loan recouped from sale of assets) are for Olympia Botswana and/or Olympia Kenya.

@nyari: Another loss would be any loans made by the Kenyan parent to Plush. Unrecoverable by Olympia Kenya.


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mukiha
#83 Posted : Thursday, June 25, 2009 6:49:00 AM
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Kame rudi 9.80 this morning. Two smallish deals though....

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VituVingiSana
#84 Posted : Thursday, June 25, 2009 7:00:00 AM
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Can you believe it? And you commit a huge chunk when you have NO idea? BTW,Olympia is back to 9.80...

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Marash
#85 Posted : Thursday, June 25, 2009 9:18:00 AM
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My take is that he din't realize that retail giants (this must be the large supermarkets) can return your goods if they are not moving (taking up supermarket space) until they do and your like wtf! Everyone who deals with supermarkets even right here in Kenya knows that before a supermarket agree to take up your products you either buy space or agree to take back your goods if no one shows interest. Thats why you find manufactering entities sending sales girls all the supermarket airles.

Still thats no excuse! he should be firing his research people
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VituVingiSana
#86 Posted : Monday, July 06, 2009 8:17:00 AM
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It is a family affair. Both executive directors are brothers.

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Hi-Lo
#87 Posted : Tuesday, July 28, 2009 12:08:00 PM
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...olympia CEO comes out from the woodwork today...did anyone catch the low monotone he used in his write-up? Can't he hear investors' voice now pitched to the 10th power ...RELEASE RESULTS !!! (even a rough draft interim/estimate even though FY is long gone)...but at least he confirmed Natwood not closed but severely downsized...now this stock can only be traded by core insiders or daredevils...

Playing the stock market without insider info...is like buying a cow in the moonlight.
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longships
#88 Posted : Tuesday, July 28, 2009 12:17:00 PM
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Where can i see Olympia report?
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Hi-Lo
#89 Posted : Tuesday, July 28, 2009 12:26:00 PM
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@longships...not available online...in local paper

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VituVingiSana
#90 Posted : Tuesday, July 28, 2009 12:50:00 PM
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It was sort of PR not the results. Anyway,it seems that Olympia Botswana will suffer the bulk of the loss unless Olympia Kenya loaned any money to Plush.

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slykat
#91 Posted : Tuesday, July 28, 2009 12:59:00 PM
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Seems Olympia has always been and ever will be a family house of cards. Until it collapses that is.

When buying shares,ask yourself,would you buy the whole company?
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longships
#92 Posted : Tuesday, July 28, 2009 1:16:00 PM
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Could any one scan and email me report. Natwood not trading at present and opposing liquidation.
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VituVingiSana
#93 Posted : Tuesday, July 28, 2009 1:27:00 PM
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@longships - nothing much on natwood. Just that biz is down in natwood coz exports to Europe & Australia have dropped like a rock


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VituVingiSana
#94 Posted : Wednesday, July 29, 2009 7:46:00 AM
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I can send u scanned copy... tuma e-mail

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Mainat
#95 Posted : Wednesday, July 29, 2009 9:11:00 AM
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Longship-article was in the digital DN yesterday http://dn.nationmedia.co...2009/07/29/index.shtml. Just register yourself and look for the Smart Company bit of yesterday's paper.

Totally unrelated,is the digitial DN,one of this year's best kept secret's for investors who can't access the hardcopy of the DN?


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mukiha
#96 Posted : Friday, July 31, 2009 3:08:00 PM
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Wasn't today the last day?

Has anyone seen the results?

These guys should be de-listed!!!!

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Kausha
#97 Posted : Friday, July 31, 2009 3:23:00 PM
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Iko kwa NSE,expect them on Monday morning i believe. Lakini,PBT was up 51% to 57m,but after stripping down turnover for Plush it dropped to 521m from 1.5B and after adjusting for dicontinued operations of 114m +tax (accountants you know about this) you end up with a after tax loss of 56m. Company is giving dividend of 10cts per share.
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Mainat
#98 Posted : Sunday, August 02, 2009 9:42:00 PM
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Mukiha-Olympia's end of year is Feb 28,hence,its last day of announcing the results was end of June.
Kausha-so in English,once you take Plush,Olympia is a loss-making business?

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VituVingiSana
#99 Posted : Monday, August 03, 2009 5:26:00 AM
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It seems that Olympia made a profit before Plush loss BUT still the investment was LOUSY. What were the matu brothers doing?

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#100 Posted : Monday, August 03, 2009 5:29:00 AM
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Just got a message that results released. Excuses all the way.

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