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Shoot straight - are these 2 writers biased against women?
tycho
#11 Posted : Tuesday, June 11, 2013 5:26:46 PM
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quicksand wrote:
I have seen what Peter Mutua has described first hand. All the women in the lower ranks resigned or were constantly looking for work elsewhere in a certain dept headed by a woman with senior women managers as well.
On earth, the reality is different from feminist theory and empowerment. In many cases, women are uncommonly mean and bitchy to fellow women.


I agree. Most women are 'bitchy' to fellow women. But are men so kind to other men? Men are mostly involved in showmanship! The game is always a fight.

But the feminist idea isn't as widely spread as 'masculinity'. And what are the female boss's interests?

The feminist movement may have its follies, but isn't entirely unfounded.
tycho
#12 Posted : Tuesday, June 11, 2013 6:05:04 PM
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@jguru, how is Dr. Njenga's advice, sound and rational?

If indeed what you are saying about his advice is true, then you must show that;

1. There are no excluded options and considerations

2. The advice can be shown to have the capacity to heal all involved parties,

3. The advice is replicable and applicable to others in the same situation and finally,

4. The advice advances the levels of consciousness amongst people and enhances their institutions.

Alternatively, I should ask what criteria has this advice satisfied, in order to qualify as sound and rational?
muganda
#13 Posted : Tuesday, June 11, 2013 7:43:01 PM
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My view...

I have a personal difference with Dr Njenga. Nevertheless, he queried the motive behind the woman's new 'deep urge to tell the truth'. He discounts our normal perception of truth as the begin-all-and-end-all and brings in the dimension of pure motive. And for the sake of the woman, he indicates that her support structures (health, spirituality, family) would be shaken to the core by this sword of truth.

I find Peter Mutua normally incisive. He does not say women cannot lead. His article shows overcompensating for female inequality can create dysfunctional organizations. His solution is gender balance - who can argue with that! Honestly I naively thought the more of a good thing the better.


muganda
#14 Posted : Tuesday, June 11, 2013 7:51:41 PM
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Anyway, below some social media feedback:




quicksand
#15 Posted : Tuesday, June 11, 2013 9:34:03 PM
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Are these articles devoid of truth? I think not. There is some wisdom to be gleaned even if it is slight. I find the tweeters' summary judgement of the writing as 'Attacks against Kenyan women' to be too simplistic and therefore showing signs of intolerance.
It is a trait common with people with extremist leanings - a different opinion or a deviation from their ideology and it is an attack.
Women are not infallible; They wander into folly, just like men. But alas, a male writer makes this observation and a torrent of fury is unleashed. A dude can never say that women are capable of making bad leaders. What foolishness.
I wonder how they would have reacted if a woman had written the piece by that Peter dude.
ChumsQuest
#16 Posted : Thursday, June 13, 2013 10:15:33 AM
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Meduza wrote:
Every study done on women has been done by men. Do they really understand being a woman? Or who a woman really is? Maybe enough has not been said.
More women are enrolling in higher education than before, which will mean that they will also start taking up those same roles the men are taking especially in job market and business. I guess its time to embrace them from top to bottom.

Applause Applause Applause Applause Men DO NOT and will never fully understand a woman #FACT
muganda
#17 Posted : Thursday, June 13, 2013 11:17:51 AM
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I think it's fair to also say Men will always be a woman's hobby.

@ChumsQuest do you realise if I, as a man, attached a good natured link to a humorous video on women's breast Having a bad day? Need a laugh? Then here's something for you...

...it would likely be branded lewd, shallow, disrespectful to women, or why are men always obsessed about women's...? That my friend is the problem.


On a more balanced note, Chimamanda Adichie posits We should all be feminists http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hg3umXU_qWc

tycho
#18 Posted : Thursday, June 13, 2013 12:15:42 PM
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If men don't understand women, then it cannot be that men understand themselves.

So how can feminism be a solution? Feminism is simply a declaration of war; civil war.

I prefer the way of identity. Man and woman are one, and life is about the consummation of identity.

And as such, there must be heaven and earth coming together and forming and completing the unity and identity of all humanity.

muganda
#19 Posted : Monday, July 15, 2013 9:40:55 PM
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Dr Frank Njenga offers a half-hearted apology. Did Business Daily or feminists pressure him? Was he wrong all along, or unwittingly tolerate the rape?

Link:
ALL acts of sexual abuse are, at all times criminal in nature, and must attract the full force of the law. There are no exceptions to the criminal nature of this act.

Wakanyugi
#20 Posted : Monday, July 15, 2013 10:49:51 PM
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Tycho; Some times you loose me. Can you please explain this symmetry?

tycho wrote:

Women, are reflections of men. Men, of God. Therefore are equal to Men and equally subject to the laws of the universe.


If Women reflect God only through men, how can women and men be equal?

And where did you get such a crappy theory?

Don't you know that God is a Woman?
"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
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