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vinii
#1 Posted : Friday, June 07, 2013 6:37:12 AM
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He was partying on Sunday, 3 days before the Nigeria match..Rink? See photo on the front page of today's Substandard!

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#2 Posted : Friday, June 07, 2013 7:22:42 AM
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vinii wrote:
He was partying on Sunday, 3 days before the Nigeria match..Rink? See photo on the front page of today's Substandard!



I dont see anything wrong with that...Sunday was such a loooooooooooong day before Wednesday match.
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#3 Posted : Friday, June 07, 2013 9:30:29 AM
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And did they tell us where the others were? cheap gossip frm the media! The whole team did not perfom and this is not the first there performing badly. So ppl should stop trying to imply that Jamal is to blame for the defeat.
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#4 Posted : Friday, June 07, 2013 9:37:35 AM
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matata wrote:
And did they tell us where the others were? cheap gossip frm the media! The whole team did not perfom and this is not the first there performing badly. So ppl should stop trying to imply that Jamal is to blame for the defeat.


Word! Even some of those overrated foreign-based professionals were crap on the day!
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#5 Posted : Friday, June 07, 2013 2:36:23 PM
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mwenza wrote:
matata wrote:
And did they tell us where the others were? cheap gossip frm the media! The whole team did not perfom and this is not the first there performing badly. So ppl should stop trying to imply that Jamal is to blame for the defeat.


Word! Even some of those overrated foreign-based professionals were crap on the day!

Do you guyz know what kind of level of discipline players who play in the top flight leagues are subjected to?some teams even have spies trailing their players every single day to avoid such scenarios you cannot mix somethings with sports...labda darts pekee,Jamal was the worst player in that field hiyo siku and its not the first time...this guy binges a lot,combine that with landing and you have a spectator on the pitch...ati Sunday was far...surely
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#6 Posted : Friday, June 07, 2013 2:44:13 PM
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we had as much chance as Nigeria 7s beating Kenya 7s in a return match after scaring them once!
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#7 Posted : Friday, June 07, 2013 2:47:26 PM
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Impunity wrote:
vinii wrote:
He was partying on Sunday, 3 days before the Nigeria match..Rink? See photo on the front page of today's Substandard!



I dont see anything wrong with that...Sunday was such a loooooooooooong day before Wednesday match.
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Sunday is not far...when you start playing professional football, drinking and landing are things that need to be under control...Prior to this match, Nigerian footballers kept their discipline, and they were not taking chances...they carried their own drinking water.
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#8 Posted : Friday, June 07, 2013 2:49:19 PM
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#9 Posted : Friday, June 07, 2013 2:51:45 PM
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Am not a serious soccer follower but the little I know is that Nigeria is a more superior team compared to our stars. Have we ever beaten Nigeria in any match? So why did we expect soo much.

I think with Nigeria its more of entertainment than a game to be won.
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#10 Posted : Friday, June 07, 2013 3:22:35 PM
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Bigchick wrote:
Am not a serious soccer follower but the little I know is that Nigeria is a more superior team compared to our stars. Have we ever beaten Nigeria in any match? So why did we expect soo much.

I think with Nigeria its more of entertainment than a game to be won.

If there was ever a time we could have beat Nigeria home and away is this year their team despite the big names is a shadow of yester years team...
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#11 Posted : Friday, June 07, 2013 3:39:14 PM
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maka wrote:
Bigchick wrote:
Am not a serious soccer follower but the little I know is that Nigeria is a more superior team compared to our stars. Have we ever beaten Nigeria in any match? So why did we expect soo much.

I think with Nigeria its more of entertainment than a game to be won.

If there was ever a time we could have beat Nigeria home and away is this year their team despite the big names is a shadow of yester years team...


Kiongera and Paul Were drafted into the team....but our mid needs some change!
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#12 Posted : Monday, June 10, 2013 2:06:46 PM
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National team players smoking shisha a few days before the game reflects poorly on Kenya. With that indiscipline, no wonder Jamal's career never took off despite plenty of opportunities in Sweden and other countries.
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#13 Posted : Monday, June 10, 2013 2:17:50 PM
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Personally wondered the seriousness of the training regime, mentally, for a midweek game when I saw Jamal at Blankets late in the evening. I am not sure though he did anything specific to warrant the nature of negative publicity accorded to him. I believe if Kenya won, we had realistic chances for qualification. If peeps have beef, they should first find out if the players were released in proper accordance with coach's instructions, and if so, what expectations exist as pertains personal life 2 days to a World Cup decider.
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#14 Posted : Monday, June 10, 2013 2:20:57 PM
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masukuma wrote:
we had as much chance as Nigeria 7s beating Kenya 7s in a return match after scaring them once!

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#15 Posted : Monday, June 10, 2013 6:47:37 PM
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Alba wrote:
National team players smoking shisha a few days before the game reflects poorly on Kenya. With that indiscipline, no wonder Jamal's career never took off despite plenty of opportunities in Sweden and other countries.

Jamal is a good creative midfielder
,super footwork & ball control skills he compensates with this for his lack of pace but sadly raha ndio mingi..reminds me of Quaresma
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Alba
#16 Posted : Monday, June 10, 2013 7:02:04 PM
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I personally believe Kenya could have beaten Nigeria under the following circumstances :

1. Oliech, Mariga, Masika, & Origi are available
2. Good planning including build up matches.
3. Kenya takes a more offensive stance.

In 2009, I watched as a hurriedly assebled harambee stars side coached by Twahir Muhiddin who had only been in charge for a few days completely outplayed Nigeria. Yes Nigeria won 3-2 but the two goals they scored were offside because CAF desperately wanted Naija to qualify instead of Tunisia. I dare say Kenya were the better side that day.

I saw Oliech give Naija pure hell. I saw Wanga was in sublime form. Emmanuel Ake was very good as a playmaker.

This Naija team from 2013 is actually weaker than the one from 2009 that had Obafemi, Yakubu, Yobo, Kanu et al.

But under Amrouche, Kenya has become so conservative to the point that they did not even have a shot on goal.

I am starting to loose faith in Amrouche especially with the way he treats Oliech. And I am sorry but you cannot bvuild a team around Wanyama who is a defensive midfielder.

I also think they should give Oboya and Blackberry a chance. Oboya plays well almost everytime he dons a stars jersey so I am baffled why he never gets called.


At the end of the day however, what is killing Kenya is the lack of youth development structures. I am amazed and appalled that after all these years, we still dont get it.

10 years from now we will loose to Naija again and will sing the same tune because we still will not have youth development structures.




Kausha
#17 Posted : Tuesday, June 18, 2013 1:10:23 PM
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I just think we should chase away Arm-rush! Not value add. If we get a foreign coach let it be a serious coach who can develop the team and even influence how development is being done. Frankly speaking, Logarusic can do a better job at Harrambee than Arm Rouche. Plus picking petty squables with Oliech is petulent of the coach. Oliech doesn't have to prove anything and as a stalwart in the team he knows how to conduct himself. The excesses of Jamal have no place at the national team. Surely a break from camp doesn't mean going to enjoy a fruity smoke at a blankets and wine. He could easily have gone to polite club taken his tipple and gone back to camp or home. Jamal is talented but frankly speaking I think if he can't get disciplined and get a competitive club he should not be anywhere in the team. His mannerisms resemble those of a mtaani otero player. Does he even have a club? Why do we keep fielding him?
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