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Olympia 2008-9 Results
Mainat
#61 Posted : Tuesday, June 23, 2009 4:38:00 AM
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A couple of things. The Olympia website is back up. Contacts are Tel: +254 020 2716222 or 651311
Email: info@dunvon.com. Some shareholder should try and confirm when it'll announce its results. It has to be within then next 7 days. Olympia's sub in Botswana was trading yesterday. Finally,yesterday trading volumes were large and remind me of a certain counter starting with U. Don't agree to be left holding the empty plate. Look to buy at a lower price.

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VituVingiSana
#62 Posted : Tuesday, June 23, 2009 5:59:00 AM
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1) Yes,I can confirm the Olympia website is up. Perhaps it was the usual issues with listed Kenyan firms websites. 2) Unga? (I do not understand the reference) 3) Olympia Kenya still has other assets including properties in Nairobi so even if longships is right there may be value in Kenya.

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Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Mainat
#63 Posted : Tuesday, June 23, 2009 6:13:00 AM
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U is for Uchumi

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VituVingiSana
#64 Posted : Tuesday, June 23, 2009 6:34:00 AM
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Where is LONGSHIPS...??? He was RIGHT... NSE received a cautionary statement from Olympia saying that Plush is kaput. By my calculations,that means at least $1 million of equity is gone/lost.

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Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
VituVingiSana
#65 Posted : Tuesday, June 23, 2009 6:42:00 AM
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Olympia Capital Holdings Limited (OCHL) owns 51% of Olympia Capital Corporation Limited (OCC),a
company listed on the Botswana Stock Exchange. In December 2006,OCC purchased 74% of Plush
Products (pty) Limited (Plush).

For the fnancial periods ended December 2006,February 2008 and February 2009,Plush did not
contributed positively to the bottom line of the group. From September 2008,following the slipping
of the South African economy into a recession,we saw a signifcant drop in our sales that made the
company go into a loss making situation.

We believe in the products and the market,but not the model to market that we have used to date.
A decision has been made to close the company,sell the assets to meet our obligations and consider
re-entering the market with a leaner model.

The closure of Plush will not have any negative effect on the operational group proftability,however
we will only tell with time the effect that the loss of the actual investment will have on our group
balance sheet.

Michael Matu
Chief Executive

23rd June 2009

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mukiha
#66 Posted : Tuesday, June 23, 2009 6:50:00 AM
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So,is OCH suspended?

If so,why has it traded 1,000 shares this morning?

Second,what are the implications of 'deciding to close' down a subsidiary? Why stick to a loss maker? Wasn't it a prudent move to close it down,trim it and then re-open?

Anyone still with hope for this counter?

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VituVingiSana
#67 Posted : Tuesday, June 23, 2009 6:52:00 AM
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My broker just told me that Olympia is trading at 9.80 (which is higher than yesterday's close) and the feeling is that the loss as regards to Plush has been contained though the details are sketchy. No word on the release of the results. I just hope Plush - which never contributed to the bottomline - is just a blip.

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Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
VituVingiSana
#68 Posted : Tuesday, June 23, 2009 7:03:00 AM
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* Suspension has been lifted. Yesterday's suspension might have been just for part of the session as the NSE awaited news from Olympia.
** It seems that Olympia will BENEFIT from the closure. I am sure there will be write-offs but lower operating losses from Plush.
*** Olympia still owns some properties but I have no idea how they are performing in this market.

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Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Hi-Lo
#69 Posted : Tuesday, June 23, 2009 10:17:00 AM
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Now we hope OCC abandons it's old ways...'buying dying companies and turning them around'...anyways cash is now finished..

Playing the stock market without insider info...is like buying a cow in the moonlight.
VituVingiSana
#70 Posted : Tuesday, June 23, 2009 5:54:00 PM
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Apparently OCC in Botswana was doing well according to the 1H announcement. Then OCC had to buy (as Hi-Lo) put it,dying businesses.
*** Longships,please tell us more about Natwood.

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Mainat
#71 Posted : Tuesday, June 23, 2009 8:03:00 PM
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Mwanahisa and other accounting types,isn't this plush-thingy colapse a post-balance sheet adjusting event for Olympia with almost the whole Ksh160m that Olympia paid for Plush being written off?

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mukiha
#72 Posted : Wednesday, June 24, 2009 6:20:00 AM
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@Vituvingisana;
Your broker is a joker!! Tell them that for me please.

When you posted that OCH has been suspended,I sent a query to NSE and here is their reply:
'Olympia Capital has not been suspended from trading,nevertheless theyhave issued some cautionary information ( available on our websitewww.nse.co.ke'

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VituVingiSana
#73 Posted : Wednesday, June 24, 2009 6:41:00 AM
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Mukiha,he told me suspension on MONDAY starting at 11am. Trading commenced on Tuesday after the 'cautionary statement' was made public. I believe my broker for now...

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Hi-Lo
#74 Posted : Wednesday, June 24, 2009 6:47:00 AM
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@mukiha...it was suspended on 22/6 mid-session under rule 9.4.2(iii)...suspension lifted 23/6 mid-session once Cautionary Statement was received...info all over data streams...

Playing the stock market without insider info...is like buying a cow in the moonlight.
Lawman
#75 Posted : Wednesday, June 24, 2009 7:10:00 AM
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Hi Sk'ers

Anyone know the registrar of Olympia shares .... need to follow up on my expired cheque for the last dividend (six month lapse clause on the cheque).

Cheers
VituVingiSana
#76 Posted : Wednesday, June 24, 2009 7:16:00 AM
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I am surprised it has held up at 9.80... @lawman try CRS

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kodak
#77 Posted : Wednesday, June 24, 2009 7:43:00 AM
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@VVS
You should not be surprised. OCHL will be among the very few counters,no more that 5 that will be on the positive side by COB today,24-June.
It will take the year end results to bring the price down. This is the counter to be in during a mini-bear run.
Please let no SK member jump in now.

MMijinjo
VituVingiSana
#78 Posted : Wednesday, June 24, 2009 8:14:00 AM
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The worst may be over but the counter has dropped to 8.85... I am waiting for the results to see what the write-offs will be. And then take it from there.

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Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Iborian
#79 Posted : Wednesday, June 24, 2009 8:20:00 AM
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@Kodak,stop deluding yourself. The few people still buying into Olympia are either those who do not know the latest OR Worse they could be people who are in the stock and want to prevent it from crashing so that they can EXIT. If any SELL ORDER of like 50,000 shares magintude were to be placed,let's see whether they would buy. That would be the real test.

Truth be told,this is a company whose management have proven to be incompetent. Going into the South Africa residential mkt during a recession does not appear tohave been a stroke of genius. Kodak,tell us one BIG decision that Matu &Co have got right in the last 5 years,other than the RIGHTS ISSUE,where they only JUST succeeded because of the then prevailing bull market. And now see how they have degraded the money they raised from UNSUSPECTING shareholders. If you want to have anything left over for your grandchildren,SELL this counter (you will be lucky if you can),then RUN and do not LOOK BACK.
Hi-Lo
#80 Posted : Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:54:00 AM
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Seems the investment lost by Olympia.ke in Plush.rsa is minimal...about Ksh 32m...
Plush purchased at Ksh 184.4m
Financed by debt Ksh 67.2m (sheriff moved in last Sunday to pay self from assets)
Plush shareholders Ksh 117.2 (OCC pay 74% of this; minority 26%)
therefore OCC.bot investment in Plush Ksh 86.73m (entirely lost!!)
OCHL interest in OCC is 50% or so,hence loses Ksh 32m 'only'...keep trading

...the Sheriff (sounds like a greco-roman sword warrior or viceroy) made a killing though...all those assets for a song...

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