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I'll cut all that crap about a friend of a neighbor and go straight to my question. Any recommendations for a therapist capable of helping a patient struggling with alcoholism and possible personality disorders? Learn first to treat your time as you would your money, then treat your money as you do your time.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/25/2007 Posts: 1,574
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@seppuku, the first step is accepting there is a problem. Answer yes or no to the following questions: 1. Have you ever felt you should cut down on your drinking? 2. Have you ever been annoyed when people have commented on your drinking? 3. Have you ever felt guilty or badly about your drinking? 4. Have you ever had an eye opener first thing in the morning to steady your nerves or get rid of a hangover? Set out to correct the world's wrongs and you will most certainly wind up adding to them.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 5/11/2010 Posts: 918
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jguru wrote:@seppuku, the first step is accepting there is a problem.
Nitajibu mahali naweza...
Answer yes or no to the following questions:
1. Have you ever felt you should cut down on your drinking?
Not sure
2. Have you ever been annoyed when people have commented on your drinking?
Yes
3. Have you ever felt guilty or badly about your drinking?
Yes
4. Have you ever had an eye opener first thing in the morning to steady your nerves or get rid of a hangover?
Definitely yes. In fact very often
IMO the patient is still struggling with acceptance but they are slowly inching close. They have accepted to give a therapist a chance after much cajoling, leading to this post.Learn first to treat your time as you would your money, then treat your money as you do your time.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/20/2009 Posts: 1,402
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seppuku wrote:I'll cut all that crap about a friend of a neighbor and go straight to my question. Any recommendations for a therapist capable of helping a patient struggling with alcoholism and possible personality disorders? Well Nacada Lists The Following Mathari mental hospital...huko Anaweza Hepa Asumbi Treatment Centre Redhill Place Kiambu Brightside D.A.R.T Centre Kitisuru Then Google Psychiatrists In Kenya and You Will Be Healed
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 5/11/2010 Posts: 918
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@Muheani, thanks for these suggestions. However, I am looking for a consultant type of guy and not a rehab. Just to get the patient started. He will likely run for the hills at the slightest hint that anybody thinks he is a nutcase. Learn first to treat your time as you would your money, then treat your money as you do your time.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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I once needed a therapist so much, but I was only a boy with no money and with plenty of confidentiality issues. So I decided to be my own therapist.
A few days ago I came across a book that was emphasizing on the need for the individual to be his own therapist in these times where information is more ubiquitous.
But thinking about what you have said above, and looking at my experience, I say this:
1. Most drinking is driven by fear and
2. If you think there's a personality disorder then the fear hypothesis becomes more plausible.
3. You have often declared yourself an agnostic, is this another sign of fear? Or is it a cause? I am not so sure. But some profiling would shed some light.
As a therapist, I'd begin by pointing out that everything is knowable, with a certain degree of uncertainty of course that can be reduced with higher levels of being.
The therapist's work is to provide a mirror to see yourself. Or rather to stimulate your awareness of the so many mirrors around you, and to set off a method of self reflection.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 5/11/2010 Posts: 918
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tycho wrote:I once needed a therapist so much, but I was only a boy with no money and with plenty of confidentiality issues. So I decided to be my own therapist.
A few days ago I came across a book that was emphasizing on the need for the individual to be his own therapist in these times where information is more ubiquitous.
But thinking about what you have said above, and looking at my experience, I say this:
1. Most drinking is driven by fear and
2. If you think there's a personality disorder then the fear hypothesis becomes more plausible.
3. You have often declared yourself an agnostic, is this another sign of fear? Or is it a cause? I am not so sure. But some profiling would shed some light.
As a therapist, I'd begin by pointing out that everything is knowable, with a certain degree of uncertainty of course that can be reduced with higher levels of being.
The therapist's work is to provide a mirror to see yourself. Or rather to stimulate your awareness of the so many mirrors around you, and to set off a method of self reflection. Wewewewewewe @tycho, maybe I should have have deployed the usual friend of a friend "tactic" after all! Mimi hapana mlevi. This is about someone else. Na sio mzaha. But you are right about my agnosticism to religion although it hasn't led to any detectable fear or drinking. Not yet at least. Anyway, the patient is question is in no shape for self-therapy. He even has trouble accepting that he has a problem. I know you are a man (maybe woman) much given to theory, conjecture and thought experiments, and that is all very fine. But I will not indulge you today. And certainly not on this thread. I keep going back to my question, someone give me a therapist's telephone number. The guy into whose office my patient can walk and begin to get help. Just begin. Learn first to treat your time as you would your money, then treat your money as you do your time.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/20/2009 Posts: 1,402
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tycho wrote:I once needed a therapist so much, but I was only a boy with no money and with plenty of confidentiality issues. So I decided to be my own therapist.
A few days ago I came across a book that was emphasizing on the need for the individual to be his own therapist in these times where information is more ubiquitous.
But thinking about what you have said above, and looking at my experience, I say this:
1. Most drinking is driven by fear and
2. If you think there's a personality disorder then the fear hypothesis becomes more plausible.
3. You have often declared yourself an agnostic, is this another sign of fear? Or is it a cause? I am not so sure. But some profiling would shed some light.
As a therapist, I'd begin by pointing out that everything is knowable, with a certain degree of uncertainty of course that can be reduced with higher levels of being.
The therapist's work is to provide a mirror to see yourself. Or rather to stimulate your awareness of the so many mirrors around you, and to set off a method of self reflection. Ditto. Simply , an angagement with the individual to progress his "unknown and hidden self" to the "Known self" and in the process enable the individual "see themselves" and "Triumph" over the "burden/s" The challenge is that the "unknown and hidden" space can never remain void, hence individuals have to continually enagage in "self therapy" so as to keep "re-discovering and re-evolving self"
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/20/2009 Posts: 1,402
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back to your question Iam not sure bout the charges, and i dont know any therapist (psychiatrist?) but may be drop an enquiry to the mental helath association as you seek help. http://www.kenyapsychiat...e&id=6&Itemid=18
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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seppuku wrote:tycho wrote:I once needed a therapist so much, but I was only a boy with no money and with plenty of confidentiality issues. So I decided to be my own therapist.
A few days ago I came across a book that was emphasizing on the need for the individual to be his own therapist in these times where information is more ubiquitous.
But thinking about what you have said above, and looking at my experience, I say this:
1. Most drinking is driven by fear and
2. If you think there's a personality disorder then the fear hypothesis becomes more plausible.
3. You have often declared yourself an agnostic, is this another sign of fear? Or is it a cause? I am not so sure. But some profiling would shed some light.
As a therapist, I'd begin by pointing out that everything is knowable, with a certain degree of uncertainty of course that can be reduced with higher levels of being.
The therapist's work is to provide a mirror to see yourself. Or rather to stimulate your awareness of the so many mirrors around you, and to set off a method of self reflection. Wewewewewewe @tycho, maybe I should have have deployed the usual friend of a friend "tactic" after all! Mimi hapana mlevi. This is about someone else. Na sio mzaha. But you are right about my agnosticism to religion although it hasn't led to any detectable fear or drinking. Not yet at least. Anyway, the patient is question is in no shape for self-therapy. He even has trouble accepting that he has a problem. I know you are a man (maybe woman) much given to theory, conjecture and thought experiments, and that is all very fine. But I will not indulge you today. And certainly not on this thread. I keep going back to my question, someone give me a therapist's telephone number. The guy into whose office my patient can walk and begin to get help. Just begin. If you are talking about someone else, then therapy should begin with you beginning the process, and probably getting him or her to self therapy levels. Sending him to an 'authority' without his enthusiasm is likely to fail, and even lead to strained relationships.
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