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Evangelist Reinhard Bonnke
Kaigangio
#31 Posted : Wednesday, June 05, 2013 12:00:50 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 2/27/2007
Posts: 2,768
Mtu Biz wrote:
Take a look at the clarion call on the flyer.

"Come and receive your blessings"




Thats what attracts the crowds...


This has nothing to do with THE Gospel.

Nowhere in scripture are people invited to come to God to receive anything.




You see that word CfaN, the meaning is not as indicated but rather....Cash-in from african Naivety...
...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
Ante_Christa
#32 Posted : Wednesday, June 05, 2013 12:03:07 PM
Rank: Member

Joined: 5/31/2013
Posts: 109
Is it really true that satan lets off some people almost scot free, that he spares some people the vigor of his snares?

Are not suggestive material accessible to all? And by all? And for all?

Or is there another definition of 'all'?

Then where is this thought from? That the enemy targets others more than others?

Of course this crusade will be 'a success' and thousands will be 'ministered unto', devils will be cast out, people 'slain in the spirit' and Jesus will be spoken of and the word preached.

Oh yes, I know what will happen.

But then again since when did
a) miracles, spirit slaying and casting out devils
b) success of crusades and many wonderful works,
c) prophesying in Jesus' name
b) dispatching and receiving blessings etc

become the benchmark? benchmark against deception?

Ah, if they themselves do not scrutinize the bible to see if these things are so, how can they condone scrutiny? Anathema!

selah
#33 Posted : Wednesday, June 05, 2013 12:12:09 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 10/13/2009
Posts: 1,950
Location: in kenya
Ante_Christa wrote:
Is it really true that satan lets off some people almost scot free, that he spares some people the vigor of his snares?

Are not suggestive material accessible to all? And by all? And for all?

Or is there another definition of 'all'?

Then where is this thought from? That the enemy targets others more than others?

Of course this crusade will be 'a success' and thousands will be 'ministered unto', devils will be cast out, people 'slain in the spirit' and Jesus will be spoken of and the word preached.

Oh yes, I know what will happen.

But then again since when did
a) miracles, spirit slaying and casting out devils
b) success of crusades and many wonderful works,
c) prophesying in Jesus' name
b) dispatching and receiving blessings etc

become the benchmark? benchmark against deception?

Ah, if they themselves do not scrutinize the bible to see if these things are so, how can they condone scrutiny? Anathema!



d'oh! d'oh! @Ante_Christa am not getting what you are saying? or are these questions targeted at your followers?
'......to the acknowledgment of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ; 3 In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.' Colossians 2:2-3
Tokyo
#34 Posted : Wednesday, June 05, 2013 12:13:07 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 10/9/2006
Posts: 1,502
This people.
" Atheist will go to heaven " Pope Francis.
work to prosper
Ante_Christa
#35 Posted : Wednesday, June 05, 2013 1:08:41 PM
Rank: Member

Joined: 5/31/2013
Posts: 109
selah wrote:
Ante_Christa wrote:
Is it really true that satan lets off some people almost scot free, that he spares some people the vigor of his snares?

Are not suggestive material accessible to all? And by all? And for all?

Or is there another definition of 'all'?

Then where is this thought from? That the enemy targets others more than others?

Of course this crusade will be 'a success' and thousands will be 'ministered unto', devils will be cast out, people 'slain in the spirit' and Jesus will be spoken of and the word preached.

Oh yes, I know what will happen.

But then again since when did
a) miracles, spirit slaying and casting out devils
b) success of crusades and many wonderful works,
c) prophesying in Jesus' name
b) dispatching and receiving blessings etc

become the benchmark? benchmark against deception?

Ah, if they themselves do not scrutinize the bible to see if these things are so, how can they condone scrutiny? Anathema!



d'oh! d'oh! @Ante_Christa am not getting what you are saying? or are these questions targeted at your followers?


Those are rhetorical questions not meant to be answered by anybody but to encourage the reader to slow down and (re)consider.

That you have replied has taken me off guard and caught me flat footed. Honestly.
kiterunner
#36 Posted : Wednesday, June 05, 2013 1:12:33 PM
Rank: Member

Joined: 7/9/2011
Posts: 730
Location: Nairobi
Mukiri wrote:
kiterunner wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
maka wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
Nikose nichekwe?

To answer you, there is money everywhere.

www.deceptioninthechurch.com/rbonnke.html

We should pray for our Pastors and Preachers as they go about spreading the gospel. If this thread is anything to go by, you can see how much attack by the enemy they face. 'Dear Lord, Please give Bonnke strength and wisdom as he comes to preach the word of God.'

About time Kenya went back to the glorious days of crusades. We have opened our country to witchcraft and sorcery. Posters are all over advertising mganga this mganga that. Dear God, come and take over your Country again!



you seriously dont see anything wrong in these charlatans fleecing the poor then living in palaces? ati in the name of God? You choose to ignore or you just dont see it?


SMD

Be careful Mat. 7:1 Murmuring about another’s work for Christ will put one in a position of judging
I Samuel 26:11 The LORD forbid that I should stretch forth mine hand against the LORD'S anointed
Num. 12:9-10 When Miriam and Aaron spoke against Moses, Miriam was plagued with leprosy
Num. 21:5-6 When the people of Israel spoke against God and Moses, God sent fiery serpents to chastise them for their sin.
Num. 16:2-3 When Korah and over 250 others spoke against Moses and Aaron, God allowed the earth to swallow Korah and the others up.
II Kings 2:22-23 When children mocked God’s man Elisha, God allowed two she bears to destroy 42 of the mockers.
History tells us that Pontius Pilate, who ordered Jesus’ death, died by suicide.
Mat. 27:5 Judas turned against Jesus, and became so miserable about what he had done against Jesus that he killed himself.
Proverbs 6:16-19



So you are scared t say you see the scam?

At times I wonder what the deeply religious folk among us would have been had the mzungu not brought christianity? May be they would have been as serious in the spirits and would be castigating anyone that did not bow to the African gods, then the white man showed up and pap, we have Mukiris
our goals are best achieved indirectly
kiterunner
#37 Posted : Wednesday, June 05, 2013 1:15:19 PM
Rank: Member

Joined: 7/9/2011
Posts: 730
Location: Nairobi
Tebes wrote:
kiterunner wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
maka wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
Nikose nichekwe?

To answer you, there is money everywhere.

www.deceptioninthechurch.com/rbonnke.html

We should pray for our Pastors and Preachers as they go about spreading the gospel. If this thread is anything to go by, you can see how much attack by the enemy they face. 'Dear Lord, Please give Bonnke strength and wisdom as he comes to preach the word of God.'

About time Kenya went back to the glorious days of crusades. We have opened our country to witchcraft and sorcery. Posters are all over advertising mganga this mganga that. Dear God, come and take over your Country again!



you seriously dont see anything wrong in these charlatans fleecing the poor then living in palaces? ati in the name of God? You choose to ignore or you just dont see it?


SMD



SMD MEANS??



shaking my d*** (in disbelief)
our goals are best achieved indirectly
kiterunner
#38 Posted : Wednesday, June 05, 2013 1:18:37 PM
Rank: Member

Joined: 7/9/2011
Posts: 730
Location: Nairobi
Bigchick wrote:
I believe in God and I believe in his mercy, his love, his blessings and miracles.Howelse can one explain some of the happennings in this world.

However, this very Rev Bonkhe and the late Rev Mrima made me draw the line.

In one of the crusades back in the days somebody went to the dias and confessed how he was a thief, But on that day while in matatu to Eldoret somewhere near Burnt Forest at around 2.30pm he heard the preachings by Rev Bonkhe and he was touched.There and then he decided to accept Jesus and return the loot to Nakuru.

Brethren help me here:The guy was at Burnt Forest at 2.30pm but at 3.00pm he was back in Nakuru on the dias with 10 new lorry tyres
(The loot)that were being ferried in atop a Nissan Matatu.

It was not possible to get to Nakuru in 30mins from Burnt Forest in a Matatu.It was not possible to ferry 10 huge lorry tyres stop s matatu.To me that was a big fat lie.Stage managing an event that never was.

As for Mrimi, he brought in a family that had a son who had gotten a Polio attack earlier and was in crutches aged kido 10years.After prayers the boy was asked to drop the crutches and walk.The first steps he was held by his hand but afterafew steps they let go...the poor boy went down in a bang...a very sad scene......and what explanation did they give .......he lacked enough faith.

The line was drawn that day for me and Miracle preachers.I deal with my God direct.



thanks, i was wondering if i am mad for seing the cons,
our goals are best achieved indirectly
Mukiri
#39 Posted : Wednesday, June 05, 2013 2:03:13 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 7/11/2012
Posts: 5,222
kiterunner wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
kiterunner wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
maka wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
Nikose nichekwe?

To answer you, there is money everywhere.

www.deceptioninthechurch.com/rbonnke.html

We should pray for our Pastors and Preachers as they go about spreading the gospel. If this thread is anything to go by, you can see how much attack by the enemy they face. 'Dear Lord, Please give Bonnke strength and wisdom as he comes to preach the word of God.'

About time Kenya went back to the glorious days of crusades. We have opened our country to witchcraft and sorcery. Posters are all over advertising mganga this mganga that. Dear God, come and take over your Country again!



you seriously dont see anything wrong in these charlatans fleecing the poor then living in palaces? ati in the name of God? You choose to ignore or you just dont see it?


SMD

Be careful Mat. 7:1 Murmuring about another’s work for Christ will put one in a position of judging
I Samuel 26:11 The LORD forbid that I should stretch forth mine hand against the LORD'S anointed
Num. 12:9-10 When Miriam and Aaron spoke against Moses, Miriam was plagued with leprosy
Num. 21:5-6 When the people of Israel spoke against God and Moses, God sent fiery serpents to chastise them for their sin.
Num. 16:2-3 When Korah and over 250 others spoke against Moses and Aaron, God allowed the earth to swallow Korah and the others up.
II Kings 2:22-23 When children mocked God’s man Elisha, God allowed two she bears to destroy 42 of the mockers.
History tells us that Pontius Pilate, who ordered Jesus’ death, died by suicide.
Mat. 27:5 Judas turned against Jesus, and became so miserable about what he had done against Jesus that he killed himself.
Proverbs 6:16-19



So you are scared t say you see the scam?

At times I wonder what the deeply religious folk among us would have been had the mzungu not brought christianity? May be they would have been as serious in the spirits and would be castigating anyone that did not bow to the African gods, then the white man showed up and pap, we have Mukiris

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom.

Why does my being religious pain you so much? Do you ascribe to another master at war with mine?

Proverbs 19:21
Meduza
#40 Posted : Wednesday, June 05, 2013 2:14:16 PM
Rank: Member

Joined: 2/7/2013
Posts: 447
Location: Nairobi
Bigchick wrote:
I believe in God and I believe in his mercy, his love, his blessings and miracles.Howelse can one explain some of the happennings in this world.

However, this very Rev Bonkhe and the late Rev Mrima made me draw the line.

In one of the crusades back in the days somebody went to the dias and confessed how he was a thief, But on that day while in matatu to Eldoret somewhere near Burnt Forest at around 2.30pm he heard the preachings by Rev Bonkhe and he was touched.There and then he decided to accept Jesus and return the loot to Nakuru.

Brethren help me here:The guy was at Burnt Forest at 2.30pm but at 3.00pm he was back in Nakuru on the dias with 10 new lorry tyres
(The loot)that were being ferried in atop a Nissan Matatu.

It was not possible to get to Nakuru in 30mins from Burnt Forest in a Matatu.It was not possible to ferry 10 huge lorry tyres stop s matatu.To me that was a big fat lie.Stage managing an event that never was.

As for Mrimi, he brought in a family that had a son who had gotten a Polio attack earlier and was in crutches aged kido 10years.After prayers the boy was asked to drop the crutches and walk.The first steps he was held by his hand but afterafew steps they let go...the poor boy went down in a bang...a very sad scene......and what explanation did they give .......he lacked enough faith.

The line was drawn that day for me and Miracle preachers.I deal with my God direct.


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