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limanika wrote:mkeiyd wrote:[quote=limanika]This is exactly what we are saying, the upgrade of existing Mombasa- Malaba rail to standard gauge should have been done yesterday as a matter of priority. There is no point building Lamu - Juba rail right now yet the Lamu port is not ready/even operational for the next say five years.http://www.standardmedia...-or-lose-out-kenya-told[/quote] @limanika, Will the rail be operational NOW? If we don't start NOW,when is the right time to start? Had we started 5 years ago, don't you think we would have taken out some wind out of "our neighbors" sails? By the way, I can confirm the LAPSSET feasibility report categorically says that there is no economic justification building the section of LAPSSET Rail inside S. Sudan, apparently the cargo volumes are not adequate to justify the cost of construction. It says the line should only be extended only when the S.Sudan economy has grown to justify the cost. The same report says that the Govt should not build the LAPSSET oil pipeline, that it should be built by private entities on a build operate & transfer arrangement. The only Lappset projects that the Kenya Govt should take on board are the port and the road to Juba & Moyale. Mkeiyd do you agree with this? @limanika, Are you for downgrade or you are against gov't funding? What Ethiopians are doing on their end, is it okay? Extending infrastructure to S. Sudan? If the whole project [LAPSSET] will take 5 years or more, how will be S.Sudan's economy be like? Should we start telling our financial institutions not to set up shop in S. Sudan until after say, 5 years? All in all,the project is already behind times. Maybe we should be discussing the mode of funding.
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mkeiyd wrote:limanika wrote:mkeiyd wrote:[quote=limanika]This is exactly what we are saying, the upgrade of existing Mombasa- Malaba rail to standard gauge should have been done yesterday as a matter of priority. There is no point building Lamu - Juba rail right now yet the Lamu port is not ready/even operational for the next say five years.http://www.standardmedia...-or-lose-out-kenya-told[/quote] @limanika, Will the rail be operational NOW? If we don't start NOW,when is the right time to start? Had we started 5 years ago, don't you think we would have taken out some wind out of "our neighbors" sails? By the way, I can confirm the LAPSSET feasibility report categorically says that there is no economic justification building the section of LAPSSET Rail inside S. Sudan, apparently the cargo volumes are not adequate to justify the cost of construction. It says the line should only be extended only when the S.Sudan economy has grown to justify the cost. The same report says that the Govt should not build the LAPSSET oil pipeline, that it should be built by private entities on a build operate & transfer arrangement. The only Lappset projects that the Kenya Govt should take on board are the port and the road to Juba & Moyale. Mkeiyd do you agree with this? @limanika, Are you for downgrade or you are against gov't funding? What Ethiopians are doing on their end, is it okay? Extending infrastructure to S. Sudan? If the whole project [LAPSSET] will take 5 years or more, how will be S.Sudan's economy be like? Should we start telling our financial institutions not to set up shop in S. Sudan until after say, 5 years? All in all,the project is already behind times. Maybe we should be discussing the mode of funding. Mode of funding.M-harambee 
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mkeiyd wrote:limanika wrote:mkeiyd wrote:[quote=limanika]This is exactly what we are saying, the upgrade of existing Mombasa- Malaba rail to standard gauge should have been done yesterday as a matter of priority. There is no point building Lamu - Juba rail right now yet the Lamu port is not ready/even operational for the next say five years.http://www.standardmedia...-or-lose-out-kenya-told[/quote] @limanika, Will the rail be operational NOW? If we don't start NOW,when is the right time to start? Had we started 5 years ago, don't you think we would have taken out some wind out of "our neighbors" sails? By the way, I can confirm the LAPSSET feasibility report categorically says that there is no economic justification building the section of LAPSSET Rail inside S. Sudan, apparently the cargo volumes are not adequate to justify the cost of construction. It says the line should only be extended only when the S.Sudan economy has grown to justify the cost. The same report says that the Govt should not build the LAPSSET oil pipeline, that it should be built by private entities on a build operate & transfer arrangement. The only Lappset projects that the Kenya Govt should take on board are the port and the road to Juba & Moyale. Mkeiyd do you agree with this? @limanika, Are you for downgrade or you are against gov't funding? What Ethiopians are doing on their end, is it okay? Extending infrastructure to S. Sudan? If the whole project [LAPSSET] will take 5 years or more, how will be S.Sudan's economy be like? Should we start telling our financial institutions not to set up shop in S. Sudan until after say, 5 years? All in all,the project is already behind times. Maybe we should be discussing the mode of funding. http://www.the-star.co.k...basa-port-inefficiences
I think my point has been made, as in the last one day or two, the World Bank and all the major media houses have reported my concerns very effectively (Star, Standard, Nation, Capital News, Kameme etc) In essence what they have said is: reduce the inefficiencies at Mombasa port and upgrade the lunatic to standard gauge or the economy loses out to new comers. None of them mentioned Lapsset in the same sentence. We can now retire this thread, the point having been made. Next!
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now Ruto says govt has secured 30bn shs financing from Japan for Mombasa port
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