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Travelling to the US as a Family - tips
KulaRaha
#21 Posted : Thursday, May 30, 2013 4:39:48 PM
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masukuma wrote:
for those like pyrex, kiriita and KulaRaha - how many of you are in formal employment, business or working as a mwana'kadarathi'


Employment.
Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
Rollout
#22 Posted : Thursday, May 30, 2013 5:11:09 PM
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kiriita wrote:
Had the same fear prior to a similar trip we went on in 2010. So I went to great lengths to put together copies of documents showing our ties to Kenya - bank statements including of the biz, title deeds, the works. Shock on me, the interview/fingerprinting lasted all of 7 minutes - they neither asked nor looked at any of the documents in our bundle - the guy just asked us five questions and then went like 'everything looks in order come for your passport/visa on Wednesday' or something like that!

My take: they've decided on your online application before you get there.


They usually profile you prior to your interview, yes 90% of decisions are made before you even show up for interview.
jaggernaut
#23 Posted : Thursday, May 30, 2013 5:26:08 PM
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The only time i traveled to the US was when I went on a US funded training program and I was treated 'like royalty' here at the local US embassy and also when I arrived in the US. I only have very good things to say about the whole experience. The trip made me realize that Kenya is really a backwater 3rd world country. I realized the true meaning of the saying that 'he or she who hasn't traveled thinks their mum is the best cook'. We Kenyans have a huge task to build our country. I will forever be grateful to Uncle Sam.
ZZE123
#24 Posted : Thursday, May 30, 2013 7:48:46 PM
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I have some in-laws in the US who keep insisting we visit but the thought of hustling for a visa keeps me off.
I have however done Europe tour with family. Visited 4 countries in 3 weeks.
The man who marries a beautiful woman, and the farmer who grows corn by the roadside have the same problem
harrydre
#25 Posted : Thursday, May 30, 2013 8:18:06 PM
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It's the easiest visa to get. just need some confidence and no lying. They already have all info about you and whoever is on the other end. One thing though your host should be legally in US and fairly stable. They have all this information.
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KulaRaha
#26 Posted : Thursday, May 30, 2013 8:23:33 PM
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I suspect most chest thumpers have never been to a first world country. Once they see one, all the bravado escapes like a smelly f*rt and reality sets in: the dumb dictator you support so strongly suddenly looks like an idiot.

Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
ZZE123
#27 Posted : Thursday, May 30, 2013 8:28:20 PM
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harrydre wrote:
It's the easiest visa to get. just need some confidence and no lying. They already have all info about you and whoever is on the other end. One thing though your host should be legally in US and fairly stable. They have all this information.

How now???d'oh! d'oh!
The man who marries a beautiful woman, and the farmer who grows corn by the roadside have the same problem
McReggae
#28 Posted : Thursday, May 30, 2013 8:30:54 PM
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KulaRaha wrote:
I suspect most chest thumpers have never been to a first world country. Once they see one, all the bravado escapes like a smelly f*rt and reality sets in: the dumb dictator you support so strongly suddenly looks like an idiot.


Applause Word.
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
Rollout
#29 Posted : Thursday, May 30, 2013 8:41:19 PM
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McReggae wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
I suspect most chest thumpers have never been to a first world country. Once they see one, all the bravado escapes like a smelly f*rt and reality sets in: the dumb dictator you support so strongly suddenly looks like an idiot.


Applause Word.


I couldn't agree with you more my MCReggae!
dunkang
#30 Posted : Thursday, May 30, 2013 8:47:23 PM
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Rollout wrote:
McReggae wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
I suspect most chest thumpers have never been to a first world country. Once they see one, all the bravado escapes like a smelly f*rt and reality sets in: the dumb dictator you support so strongly suddenly looks like an idiot.


Applause Word.


I couldn't agree with you more my MCReggae!

Machungu nayo.
Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi

maka
#31 Posted : Thursday, May 30, 2013 9:06:37 PM
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dunkang wrote:
Rollout wrote:
McReggae wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
I suspect most chest thumpers have never been to a first world country. Once they see one, all the bravado escapes like a smelly f*rt and reality sets in: the dumb dictator you support so strongly suddenly looks like an idiot.


Applause Word.


I couldn't agree with you more my MCReggae!

Machungu nayo.

machungu....lakini machungu ya ukweli if we compare it with a slaughtered bull meat fest sisi tumepewa hooves...ama ulimi.
possunt quia posse videntur
nakujua
#32 Posted : Thursday, May 30, 2013 9:10:46 PM
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KulaRaha wrote:
I suspect most chest thumpers have never been to a first world country. Once they see one, all the bravado escapes like a smelly f*rt and reality sets in: the dumb dictator you support so strongly suddenly looks like an idiot.


very wise words, more people should visit the first world countries and the world will be a better place - I always say, if only the first world allowed the said terrorist to visit their countries they would change them instantly. The likes of Farouk Abdulmutallab or even Mohammad Sidique Khan would not have done what they did if they had visited the west.

I dream of visiting one of these countries one day.
essyk
#33 Posted : Thursday, May 30, 2013 9:38:52 PM
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ZZE123 wrote:
harrydre wrote:
It's the easiest visa to get. just need some confidence and no lying. They already have all info about you and whoever is on the other end. One thing though your host should be legally in US and fairly stable. They have all this information.

How now???d'oh! d'oh!


When you fill all your details online and submit.
police records,travel records,certs, etc etc
Reason the interview process sounds like a big joke.I don't remember that dude looking at my face at all,cz his attention was on screen and asking tricky questions.all 5 min.

But masukuma pray sana.You have relas on greencard and you want to visit with family?
Hope they are citizens already to make it easier.
You have to really prove that you are coming back;return ticket,investments needing your physical att.developments,job,education,family etc.
I got a feeling they will kazia you if you go with family.It would be great if you got a multiple entry visa valid for a year so there can be next time and you can try taking family along cz they will have confidence in you.
Na usiende interview na tois wamenyonga ties like small pastors.
Try anyway,wishing you luck.
"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
Rollout
#34 Posted : Thursday, May 30, 2013 9:45:54 PM
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@nakujua,
In alot of third world countries people are fed with propaganda on how cool they are on a daily basis. The whole Africa believe the West have or want to steal their natural resources but guess where that is coming from?

African leaders do not want Africa to truely develop because they benefit from vulnarable poor masses. The west however want Africa to develop because it will provide growth and market opportunities for their companies, but we understand these the opposite way just because of the propaganda.
masukuma
#35 Posted : Thursday, May 30, 2013 10:06:59 PM
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maka wrote:
dunkang wrote:
Rollout wrote:
McReggae wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
I suspect most chest thumpers have never been to a first world country. Once they see one, all the bravado escapes like a smelly f*rt and reality sets in: the dumb dictator you support so strongly suddenly looks like an idiot.


Applause Word.


I couldn't agree with you more my MCReggae!

Machungu nayo.

machungu....lakini machungu ya ukweli if we compare it with a slaughtered bull meat fest sisi tumepewa hooves...ama ulimi.

mbona mna hijack hii thread yangu? pelekeni ukabila yenu kwa ile thread ya bensouda!
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
masukuma
#36 Posted : Thursday, May 30, 2013 10:21:06 PM
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essyk wrote:
ZZE123 wrote:
harrydre wrote:
It's the easiest visa to get. just need some confidence and no lying. They already have all info about you and whoever is on the other end. One thing though your host should be legally in US and fairly stable. They have all this information.

How now???d'oh! d'oh!


When you fill all your details online and submit.
police records,travel records,certs, etc etc
Reason the interview process sounds like a big joke.I don't remember that dude looking at my face at all,cz his attention was on screen and asking tricky questions.all 5 min.

But masukuma pray sana.You have relas on greencard and you want to visit with family?
Hope they are citizens already to make it easier.
You have to really prove that you are coming back;return ticket,investments needing your physical att.developments,job,education,family etc.
I got a feeling they will kazia you if you go with family.It would be great if you got a multiple entry visa valid for a year so there can be next time and you can try taking family along cz they will have confidence in you.
Na usiende interview na tois wamenyonga ties like small pastors.
Try anyway,wishing you luck.

I have done trips with my famo to both Asia and nicer parts of africa (I try to go with them when the situation is conducive) - do you think this will be advantageous? I may do a couple more with them before we decide to travel west.
essyk wrote:
Na usiende interview na tois wamenyonga ties like small pastors.

lol! kwetu hakuna ties.... those things were not even designed for this type of climate!
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
carygoh
#37 Posted : Friday, May 31, 2013 12:41:36 AM
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ZZE123 wrote:
I have some in-laws in the US who keep insisting we visit but the thought of hustling for a visa keeps me off.
I have however done Europe tour with family. Visited 4 countries in 3 weeks.

Thats the best part with Schengen you get one visa and you can visit any of the schengen states
Think Positive Test Negative
Rollout
#38 Posted : Friday, May 31, 2013 1:23:13 AM
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@Masukuma,

Just make sure you buy and use deodorants, Kenyans new to the West just tend to have a funny smell, even honorable ministers..... could be deodorants from East! Just saying!
Pesa Nane
#39 Posted : Friday, May 31, 2013 2:11:09 AM
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Rollout wrote:
@Masukuma,

Just make sure you buy and use deodorants, Kenyans new to the West just tend to have a funny smell, even honorable ministers..... could be deodorants from East! Just saying!

Facts with Fun !!! You got me chocking there. Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
urstill
#40 Posted : Friday, May 31, 2013 4:11:32 AM
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KulaRaha wrote:
I suspect most chest thumpers have never been to a first world country. Once they see one, all the bravado escapes like a smelly f*rt and reality sets in: the dumb dictator you support so strongly suddenly looks like an idiot.



So true
Man must live!
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