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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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I know the usual thread of Furahiday will come up soon. I just want say something to those who like this drink. But first, allow me to quote something: Quote:The modern disease theory of alcoholism states that problem drinking is sometimes caused by a disease of the brain, characterized by altered brain structure and function.
The American Medical Association (AMA) had declared that alcoholism was an illness in 1956.
The AMA further endorsed the dual classification of alcoholism by the International Classification of Diseases under both psychiatric and medical sections in 1991. We have to be sympathetic to the alcoholics  Today, medical doctors say alcoholism is a disease. And I say to those who will partake:- if alcoholism is a disease then - it is the only disease that is sold in bottles - it is the only disease that is advertised in newspapers, in the magazines, on radio, on TV channels, - it is the only disease that has a licensed outlet for sale - it is the only disease that gets revenue for many governments of the world - it is the only disease that brings deaths on the high ways - it is the only disease that destroys families - it is the only disease that has no viral or germ as its cause Quran 5:90, Allah says, it is not a disease, it is Satan's handiwork.Quote:O you who have believed, indeed, intoxicants, gambling, [sacrificing on] stone alters [to other than Allah],
and divining arrows are but defilement from the work of Satan, so avoid it that you may be successful.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/21/2008 Posts: 2,490
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@AlphDoti - Why on a Furahiday why?? The man who marries a beautiful woman, and the farmer who grows corn by the roadside have the same problem
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/12/2008 Posts: 215
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@ Alph. Not to sound reckless but from experience I have come to believe that to a great extent “Kuishi ni bahati”. Occasionally we have to imbibe otherwise life can become too boring. Even the first miracle by JC was to manufacture wine!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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kimiri wrote:@ Alph. Not to sound reckless but from experience I have come to believe that to a great extent “Kuishi ni bahati”. Occasionally we have to imbibe otherwise life can become too boring. Even the first miracle by JC was to manufacture wine! it was grape juice... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/7/2011 Posts: 410
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kimiri wrote:@ Alph. Not to sound reckless but from experience I have come to believe that to a great extent “Kuishi ni bahati”. Occasionally we have to imbibe otherwise life can become too boring. Even the first miracle by JC was to manufacture wine! "Kuishi ni bahati" With all the health complications cancer, HBP, sijui GMO food, I can only agree with u. Kuishi ni bahati.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 6,514
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Alcoholism is the only disease...and alcohol is the only cure! Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/21/2008 Posts: 2,490
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KulaRaha wrote:Alcoholism is the only disease...and alcohol is the only cure!  The man who marries a beautiful woman, and the farmer who grows corn by the roadside have the same problem
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2012 Posts: 5,222
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kimiri wrote:@ Alph. Not to sound reckless but from experience I have come to believe that to a great extent “Kuishi ni bahati”. Occasionally we have to imbibe otherwise life can become too boring. Even the first miracle by JC was to manufacture wine!  Little knowledge is dangerous!
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/12/2008 Posts: 215
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Mukiri wrote:kimiri wrote:@ Alph. Not to sound reckless but from experience I have come to believe that to a great extent “Kuishi ni bahati”. Occasionally we have to imbibe otherwise life can become too boring. Even the first miracle by JC was to manufacture wine! Little knowledge is dangerous! Okay Mr. Know-it-all but in my life I have seen babies suffer and die from cancer and other funny maladies that have nothing to do with alcohol. I thank God for the number of years he has given me but also enjoy life. After all, it is not a rehearsal.
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/6/2010 Posts: 741 Location: Nairobi
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Just like all other human pleasures alcohol can also be abused. Nonetheless, its about personal boundaries and responsibilities. Alcoholism is real but Alcohol doesn't take us there, the person takes him or herself there.
That said, i will enjoy my Tusker today, and throughout the weekend, quite responsibly.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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chepkel wrote:Just like all other human pleasures alcohol can also be abused. Nonetheless, its about personal boundaries and responsibilities. Alcoholism is real but Alcohol doesn't take us there, the person takes him or herself there.
That said, i will enjoy my Tusker today, and throughout the weekend, quite responsibly. Very well said.....hiyo ingine yote ni pang'ang'a.......kuongea juu ya kitu huelewi!!!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 5/7/2009 Posts: 1,032 Location: Sea of Transquility
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If you read the Bible, the book of Deuteronomy, it forbids us taking most of the things people pay attention to in life so seriously.... coz its all vanity. That said easen up and relax. If the bottle is your thing go ahead. “small step for man”
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/15/2008 Posts: 16 Location: Nairobi
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Why doesnt Kenya just pull out of the Rome statute ?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/23/2009 Posts: 2,375
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EBALE wrote:Why doesnt Kenya just pull out of the Rome statute ?  It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt...
-Mark Twain
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2012 Posts: 5,222
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kimiri wrote:Mukiri wrote:kimiri wrote:@ Alph. Not to sound reckless but from experience I have come to believe that to a great extent “Kuishi ni bahati”. Occasionally we have to imbibe otherwise life can become too boring. Even the first miracle by JC was to manufacture wine! Little knowledge is dangerous! Okay Mr. Know-it-all but in my life I have seen babies suffer and die from cancer and other funny maladies that have nothing to do with alcohol. I thank God for the number of years he has given me but also enjoy life. After all, it is not a rehearsal. Mbloo, my comment was only in reference to JC turning water into wine(wrongly perceived to be alchohol). Sorry, didn't mean to raise the temperature. I'm of the opinion that certain wines and alcoholic beverages are beneficial to the body and mind.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/23/2009 Posts: 2,375
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Mukiri wrote:kimiri wrote:Mukiri wrote:kimiri wrote:@ Alph. Not to sound reckless but from experience I have come to believe that to a great extent “Kuishi ni bahati”. Occasionally we have to imbibe otherwise life can become too boring. Even the first miracle by JC was to manufacture wine! Little knowledge is dangerous! Okay Mr. Know-it-all but in my life I have seen babies suffer and die from cancer and other funny maladies that have nothing to do with alcohol. I thank God for the number of years he has given me but also enjoy life. After all, it is not a rehearsal. Mbloo, my comment was only in reference to JC turning water into wine( wrongly perceived to be alchohol). Sorry, didn't mean to raise the temperature. I'm of the opinion that certain wines and alcoholic beverages are beneficial to the body and mind. This is very interesting, care to explain. I assume that all wine contains alcohol. It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt...
-Mark Twain
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/19/2008 Posts: 4,268
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EBALE wrote:Why doesnt Kenya just pull out of the Rome statute ?   Now, this, is alcoholism at its best! Look no further. Gave me a good laugh though! Do you even know where we were on this thread?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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Wendz wrote:EBALE wrote:Why doesnt Kenya just pull out of the Rome statute ? Now, this, is alcoholism at its best! Look no further. Gave me a good laugh though! Do you even know where we were on this thread? ...and how did this @EBALE get to the position of a member with only 1 post thus far!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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AlphDoti wrote:Today, medical doctors say alcoholism is a disease.
And I say to those who will partake:
- if alcoholism is a disease then
- it is the only disease that is sold in bottles
- it is the only disease that is advertised in newspapers, in the magazines, on radio, on TV channels,
- it is the only disease that has a licensed outlet for sale
- it is the only disease that gets revenue for many governments of the world
- it is the only disease that brings deaths on the high ways
- it is the only disease that destroys families
- it is the only disease that has no viral or germ as its cause Sadly the people suffering from alcoholism see the opposite- alcohol is a cure - it is one of the medicine that is sold in bottles - it is not the only medicine that is advertised in newspapers, in the magazines, on radio, on TV channels, - it is the only medicine that you can drink till you drop - it is not the only medicine that causes drowsiness and lapses that can brings deaths on the high ways - it is the only medicine that destroys families - like every other medicine, it has side effects - like any medicine, it makes you feel better
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2012 Posts: 5,222
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bkismat wrote:Mukiri wrote:kimiri wrote:Mukiri wrote:kimiri wrote:@ Alph. Not to sound reckless but from experience I have come to believe that to a great extent “Kuishi ni bahati”. Occasionally we have to imbibe otherwise life can become too boring. Even the first miracle by JC was to manufacture wine! Little knowledge is dangerous! Okay Mr. Know-it-all but in my life I have seen babies suffer and die from cancer and other funny maladies that have nothing to do with alcohol. I thank God for the number of years he has given me but also enjoy life. After all, it is not a rehearsal. Mbloo, my comment was only in reference to JC turning water into wine( wrongly perceived to be alchohol). Sorry, didn't mean to raise the temperature. I'm of the opinion that certain wines and alcoholic beverages are beneficial to the body and mind. This is very interesting, care to explain. I assume that all wine contains alcohol. Show me in the Bible where you find 'Juice' then we'll dialogue. You can use google, if you wish. And while you are at it, try looking for 'strong drink'.
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