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Olympia 2008-9 Results
VituVingiSana
#1 Posted : Thursday, May 28, 2009 7:55:00 AM
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The year ends on 28 Feb but no idea of their results. Anyone?

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Kausha
#2 Posted : Thursday, May 28, 2009 12:19:00 PM
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Hang on till 1st or 2nd week of June,but nothing super.
slykat
#3 Posted : Tuesday, June 16, 2009 12:40:00 PM
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@Kausha

Your date came and went but still nothing from olympia.

Off the top of my head,I thought companies must by law publish within 3 months,is olympia special or is the limit 4 months?





When buying shares,ask yourself,would you buy the whole company?
Mainat
#4 Posted : Tuesday, June 16, 2009 1:43:00 PM
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Limit is 4 months

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slykat
#5 Posted : Tuesday, June 16, 2009 2:03:00 PM
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@MainaT

ty. I can wait another two wks. expect any dividends off this giant mouse?



When buying shares,ask yourself,would you buy the whole company?
VituVingiSana
#6 Posted : Tuesday, June 16, 2009 5:02:00 PM
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The dividend was 20 cents last year.

Greedy when others are fearful,Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase WB
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Mainat
#7 Posted : Tuesday, June 16, 2009 7:46:00 PM
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P/E of 17? But still,its price is historically quite low currently. A gamble,but life is a gamble.

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slykat
#8 Posted : Tuesday, June 16, 2009 8:32:00 PM
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@MainaT

Yep,tiz a gamble. PE 17 being high coz of historically low Annual Earnings Per Share; latter being low coz of expensive debts and take-overs.

The gambiteering here is on the assumption that the debts have fallen n take-overs have stopped,n earnings from expansion,plus assumed increase in 2010 worldcup construction earnings. Now waiting for reality. May burn like I did from Mumias.

But this high risk gambit is limited in quantity and balanced by more rational holdings elsewhere. Also serves to satisfy risk appetite n silence the gut feeling - like mountaineering or rock climbing. Some peeps go to the casino. Am I the only irrational investor here or VituVingiSana tuko pamoja against the conventional currents on this one? Lol!

I suspect the quintessential analyst would not approve of my voodoo-nomics.

When buying shares,ask yourself,would you buy the whole company?
Mainat
#9 Posted : Tuesday, June 16, 2009 8:45:00 PM
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Slykat-verily I say unto thee,forsake Olympia and go forth unto Mumias. For it is better for a man like thee to lose thine socks,than to lose thine shoes as well.


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slykat
#10 Posted : Tuesday, June 16, 2009 8:56:00 PM
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@MainaT

Fie! I must hie myself to the broker! Be it too late? But alas,this gnawing gut feeling. Mumias hath killed me once,shall I embrace her once more? Asi!

For it is better for a man like thee to lose thine socks,than to lose thine shoes as well. Wololo yahye. nimepasua.


When buying shares,ask yourself,would you buy the whole company?

Hi-Lo
#11 Posted : Wednesday, June 17, 2009 4:51:00 AM
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...when results gets delayed this much...they tend to be xtreme...super profits or abnormal loss...which is coming?!

Playing the stock market without insider info...is like buying a cow in the moonlight.
VituVingiSana
#12 Posted : Wednesday, June 17, 2009 7:23:00 AM
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True... I am not optimistic. The price has dropped from 14 (Rights) to less than 9.

Greedy when others are fearful,Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase WB
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
nyari
#13 Posted : Wednesday, June 17, 2009 10:11:00 AM
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@ Mainat,

I break into a cold sweat whenever anyone mentions Olympia in those terms... I have this gut feeling which might just be the end of me,kindly give us more info. I keep seeing its capital gains paying off my mortgage one day
Mainat
#14 Posted : Wednesday, June 17, 2009 10:51:00 AM
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Ndoa ya machozi

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underweight
#15 Posted : Wednesday, June 17, 2009 11:30:00 AM
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75 % of Olympia Capital Holding Shares(30 Million Shares) were sold during the rights Issue at Kshs 14.00 and a greater portion of the remaining 10 Million were bought at between 16-40 shillings range. At times I wonder why some Shareholders can afford to sell at almost half that price....Just assuming the profits realised is negligible what do you expect?...A complete massacre. Run when you still can my brother.

A fool and his money are soon a big party
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Iborian
#16 Posted : Thursday, June 18, 2009 5:24:00 AM
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Comrades,

No need to hold your breath on this one. Results are always late. Expect them in early July - released just in time to avoid delisting. You do not rush to report poor results.
VituVingiSana
#17 Posted : Thursday, June 18, 2009 8:49:00 AM
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24,000 shares sold today by noon at 9 to 9.50 but the entire market is rising. Results have to be announced by end of June but nothing happens if you are late. This is the NSE.

Greedy when others are fearful,Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase WB
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
VituVingiSana
#18 Posted : Thursday, June 18, 2009 9:12:00 AM
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A couple of trades at Noon has pushed the price to 9.50 & cleared off all sellers! And there is buyer waiting for shares... so any sellers might as well take advantage of the current demand.
*** I am following live trades & the bull rebound is clearing off lots of over-hang

Greedy when others are fearful,Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase WB
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
mwanahisa
#19 Posted : Thursday, June 18, 2009 9:28:00 AM
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VVS,As you observe,when the mkt starts rising people who were not in look for any share that is available and especially those that trade at Kshs 20 or below - in many mkts these would be referred to as penny stocks. That benefits shares like Olympia. The problem arises in that by the time these shares clear - a week later,the bull market may have slowed down. Oftentimes,it will actually have reversed. At that time,you will try to place a sell order and you will not attract even one bid sometimes.

On the subject of OCH I have written on it previously and I have not seen an investment case worth supporting from its days when it was known as Dunlop. Believe you me this is a counter that I have studied for a while. It may have improved a bit (for purposes of the rights issue last year but one). It now seems to have slackened once again. At the very least,I would expect them to report within the 3 months they are allowed to without attracting any penalties from NSE/CMA. If they can't be able to report on time,you can imagine what else they do NOT get right.


Opportunity calls but few respond.
VituVingiSana
#20 Posted : Thursday, June 18, 2009 9:50:00 AM
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EOY results get 4 months. Since the new EOY is 28 Feb,they have till 28 June.

Greedy when others are fearful,Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase WB
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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