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thuks
#111 Posted : Wednesday, May 15, 2013 5:33:39 PM
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Shak wrote:
mkenyan wrote:
thuks wrote:
Idiotic: A policeman who earns 20k defending an mpig earning 25 or is it 40 times more and fighting for more! And we wait for police reformation! Goddo will come before we achieve half of this target.

never occurred to them. beyond irony. way past stupidity. should in fact be championing the reduction of the mp pay in the hopes that some of the savings will go into better (and deserved) pay for them.


Just for arguments sake, what would the ideal pay be for workers in different critical sectors of the economy? 1.mps and other politicians. remains as is 2. Doctors: basic pay of at least 300k. 3. Teachers: basic pay of 40 to 100k 4. Engineers, architects and quantity surveyors: basic pay of 150 to 300k 5. Police: same as teachers

teachers train for more than two years while police train for six months. Teachers should get more
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Shak
#112 Posted : Wednesday, May 15, 2013 5:45:19 PM
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thuks wrote:
Shak wrote:
mkenyan wrote:
thuks wrote:
Idiotic: A policeman who earns 20k defending an mpig earning 25 or is it 40 times more and fighting for more! And we wait for police reformation! Goddo will come before we achieve half of this target.

never occurred to them. beyond irony. way past stupidity. should in fact be championing the reduction of the mp pay in the hopes that some of the savings will go into better (and deserved) pay for them.


Just for arguments sake, what would the ideal pay be for workers in different critical sectors of the economy? 1.mps and other politicians. remains as is 2. Doctors: basic pay of at least 300k. 3. Teachers: basic pay of 40 to 100k 4. Engineers, architects and quantity surveyors: basic pay of 150 to 300k 5. Police: same as teachers

teachers train for more than two years while police train for six months. Teachers should start higher at least

I look forward to the day when we'll be able to pay cops no less than 50k without factoring in allowances. Hopefully they would also be better trained and equipped
marko
#113 Posted : Wednesday, May 15, 2013 6:51:02 PM
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What you don't seem to understand is that Kimaiyo served a good part of his career serving in the Nyayo House days of Moi Era. He doesn't know any other way to deal with protests. That is why he has no clue on how to deal with the criminal gangs in Bungoma, Mandera and the border with Bongo.
WHO DARES WINS
Shak
#114 Posted : Wednesday, May 15, 2013 7:21:11 PM
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marko wrote:
What you don't seem to understand is that Kimaiyo served a good part of his career serving in the Nyayo House days of Moi Era. He doesn't know any other way to deal with protests. That is why he has no clue on how to deal with the criminal gangs in Bungoma, Mandera and the border with Bongo.

I miss the days of Michuki and major general Ali
YoungMulla
#115 Posted : Wednesday, May 15, 2013 10:05:53 PM
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I salute all those who participated in the protest, activism needs to remain alive , to counter forces of corruption and other vices.If we don't protect our country, who will???
Before I die - i will touch the sky!!
McReggae
#116 Posted : Wednesday, May 15, 2013 11:11:54 PM
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On record, many years in wazua but I have never refered to MPs as mpigs.....

.....the comparison between the life of the Kenyan MP with that of Kenyan PIG. The kenyan MP is pampered loafer who uses the tax payer to live on the best of our land. He sleeps in cosy spaces and the chair he sits on in parliament cost the Kenyan tax payer an obscene amount of money............unfoortunately the amount of money used to secure the position seems to justify this.....the Kenyan pig on the other hand lives the life of a chokora.....that street bastard who has been left to die from inhaling shoe glue. That garbage of a human being who feeds and sleeps in his on shit when there are no leftovers in our city dustbins to scavenge on. Our pigs and chokora are one and the same thing. For our MPs.....horses will make a better metaphor. Let us be honest...we all know this but our contempt for the Kenyan pig, Kenyan chokora and Kenyan MP makes us lump them together as one. And that is dishonest...............on comparison.

.....so long as the lectorate depend on the MPs for handouts: food, drinks, school fees, funeral expenses, medical expenses, 'imaginayry expenses, we are far from liberation, the MPs refelct the electorate!!!

...the elctorate wanna have their cake and eat it......naahhh, they rejected great leaders!!!!!

THE ELECTORATE MUST CHANGE!!!!.... I was on the ground!!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
thuks
#117 Posted : Thursday, May 16, 2013 8:48:52 AM
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McReggae wrote:
On record, many years in wazua but I have never refered to MPs as mpigs.....

.....the comparison between the life of the Kenyan MP with that of Kenyan PIG. The kenyan MP is pampered loafer who uses the tax payer to live on the best of our land. He sleeps in cosy spaces and the chair he sits on in parliament cost the Kenyan tax payer an obscene amount of money............unfoortunately the amount of money used to secure the position seems to justify this.....the Kenyan pig on the other hand lives the life of a chokora.....that street bastard who has been left to die from inhaling shoe glue. That garbage of a human being who feeds and sleeps in his on shit when there are no leftovers in our city dustbins to scavenge on. Our pigs and chokora are one and the same thing. For our MPs.....horses will make a better metaphor. Let us be honest...we all know this but our contempt for the Kenyan pig, Kenyan chokora and Kenyan MP makes us lump them together as one. And that is dishonest...............on comparison.

.....so long as the lectorate depend on the MPs for handouts: food, drinks, school fees, funeral expenses, medical expenses, 'imaginayry expenses, we are far from liberation, the MPs refelct the electorate!!!

...the elctorate wanna have their cake and eat it......naahhh, they rejected great leaders!!!!!

THE ELECTORATE MUST CHANGE!!!!.... I was on the ground!!!!


The electors wants change but the MPs want status quo to remain. Rather than propose ways in which the dependants can be independent, the MPs are asking for more to culltivate the image of the provider. This must be stopped at all costs. In any case, let the money go to the constituency kitty from where it can be dispensed for those particular needs.
I care!
McReggae
#118 Posted : Thursday, May 16, 2013 8:57:34 AM
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thuks wrote:
McReggae wrote:
On record, many years in wazua but I have never refered to MPs as mpigs.....

.....the comparison between the life of the Kenyan MP with that of Kenyan PIG. The kenyan MP is pampered loafer who uses the tax payer to live on the best of our land. He sleeps in cosy spaces and the chair he sits on in parliament cost the Kenyan tax payer an obscene amount of money............unfoortunately the amount of money used to secure the position seems to justify this.....the Kenyan pig on the other hand lives the life of a chokora.....that street bastard who has been left to die from inhaling shoe glue. That garbage of a human being who feeds and sleeps in his on shit when there are no leftovers in our city dustbins to scavenge on. Our pigs and chokora are one and the same thing. For our MPs.....horses will make a better metaphor. Let us be honest...we all know this but our contempt for the Kenyan pig, Kenyan chokora and Kenyan MP makes us lump them together as one. And that is dishonest...............on comparison.

.....so long as the lectorate depend on the MPs for handouts: food, drinks, school fees, funeral expenses, medical expenses, 'imaginayry expenses, we are far from liberation, the MPs refelct the electorate!!!

...the elctorate wanna have their cake and eat it......naahhh, they rejected great leaders!!!!!

THE ELECTORATE MUST CHANGE!!!!.... I was on the ground!!!!


The electors wants change but the MPs want status quo to remain. Rather than propose ways in which the dependants can be independent, the MPs are asking for more to culltivate the image of the provider. This must be stopped at all costs. In any case, let the money go to the constituency kitty from where it can be dispensed for those particular needs.


Until you vie for an elective position in Kenya or is closely involved in one, until you have a close friend/relative in that bunge, you will continue shouting!!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
kingfisher
#119 Posted : Thursday, May 16, 2013 9:02:22 AM
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Joined: 4/9/2008
Posts: 2,824
McReggae wrote:
thuks wrote:
McReggae wrote:
On record, many years in wazua but I have never refered to MPs as mpigs.....

.....the comparison between the life of the Kenyan MP with that of Kenyan PIG. The kenyan MP is pampered loafer who uses the tax payer to live on the best of our land. He sleeps in cosy spaces and the chair he sits on in parliament cost the Kenyan tax payer an obscene amount of money............unfoortunately the amount of money used to secure the position seems to justify this.....the Kenyan pig on the other hand lives the life of a chokora.....that street bastard who has been left to die from inhaling shoe glue. That garbage of a human being who feeds and sleeps in his on shit when there are no leftovers in our city dustbins to scavenge on. Our pigs and chokora are one and the same thing. For our MPs.....horses will make a better metaphor. Let us be honest...we all know this but our contempt for the Kenyan pig, Kenyan chokora and Kenyan MP makes us lump them together as one. And that is dishonest...............on comparison.

.....so long as the lectorate depend on the MPs for handouts: food, drinks, school fees, funeral expenses, medical expenses, 'imaginayry expenses, we are far from liberation, the MPs refelct the electorate!!!

...the elctorate wanna have their cake and eat it......naahhh, they rejected great leaders!!!!!

THE ELECTORATE MUST CHANGE!!!!.... I was on the ground!!!!


The electors wants change but the MPs want status quo to remain. Rather than propose ways in which the dependants can be independent, the MPs are asking for more to culltivate the image of the provider. This must be stopped at all costs. In any case, let the money go to the constituency kitty from where it can be dispensed for those particular needs.


Until you vie for an elective position in Kenya or is closely involved in one, until you have a close friend/relative in that bunge, you will continue shouting!!!!


mimi ni voter... and when you over-indulge when asking for my vote do not expect me to increase your salary after you triumph!!!! ushasikia bana wewe??
When I have money, I get rid of it quickly, lest it find a way into my heart.
McReggae
#120 Posted : Thursday, May 16, 2013 9:06:56 AM
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Joined: 6/17/2008
Posts: 23,365
Location: Nairobi
kingfisher wrote:
McReggae wrote:
thuks wrote:
McReggae wrote:
On record, many years in wazua but I have never refered to MPs as mpigs.....

.....the comparison between the life of the Kenyan MP with that of Kenyan PIG. The kenyan MP is pampered loafer who uses the tax payer to live on the best of our land. He sleeps in cosy spaces and the chair he sits on in parliament cost the Kenyan tax payer an obscene amount of money............unfoortunately the amount of money used to secure the position seems to justify this.....the Kenyan pig on the other hand lives the life of a chokora.....that street bastard who has been left to die from inhaling shoe glue. That garbage of a human being who feeds and sleeps in his on shit when there are no leftovers in our city dustbins to scavenge on. Our pigs and chokora are one and the same thing. For our MPs.....horses will make a better metaphor. Let us be honest...we all know this but our contempt for the Kenyan pig, Kenyan chokora and Kenyan MP makes us lump them together as one. And that is dishonest...............on comparison.

.....so long as the lectorate depend on the MPs for handouts: food, drinks, school fees, funeral expenses, medical expenses, 'imaginayry expenses, we are far from liberation, the MPs refelct the electorate!!!

...the elctorate wanna have their cake and eat it......naahhh, they rejected great leaders!!!!!

THE ELECTORATE MUST CHANGE!!!!.... I was on the ground!!!!


The electors wants change but the MPs want status quo to remain. Rather than propose ways in which the dependants can be independent, the MPs are asking for more to culltivate the image of the provider. This must be stopped at all costs. In any case, let the money go to the constituency kitty from where it can be dispensed for those particular needs.


Until you vie for an elective position in Kenya or is closely involved in one, until you have a close friend/relative in that bunge, you will continue shouting!!!!


mimi ni voter... and when you over-indulge when asking for my vote do not expect me to increase your salary after you triumph!!!! ushasikia bana wewe??


Hahaha, hapo ndio iko chida...so long as they have the power in increase they will just like anybody else would in their current positions!!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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