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Who can we say are the middle class in Kenya based on their annual/monthly earning? I hear this term every day companies targeting them etc but who are they?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/31/2008 Posts: 7,081 Location: Kenya
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Characteristics
1. Drive a reconditioned BMW, Mercedes,and such other high end second hand cars
2. Owns a house in Ongata Rongai.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/30/2008 Posts: 6,029
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GalMU wrote:Who can we say are the middle class in Kenya based on their annual/monthly earning? I hear this term every day companies targeting them etc but who are they? You should use the search tool as the topic has been discussed exhaustively on wazua.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/20/2009 Posts: 1,402
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mawinder wrote:GalMU wrote:Who can we say are the middle class in Kenya based on their annual/monthly earning? I hear this term every day companies targeting them etc but who are they? You should use the search tool as the topic has been discussed exhaustively on wazua. True... @Gaimu..check it out the thread.. didnt know my "Class" until my general area of residence was mentioned!!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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I have always said this is an illusion. Latest today I received an assignment to target the upper middle class, lower middle class and the floating class with the following definition and the number represent the Kenyan current scenario: Upper Class: forms 4.8% on >$20 Upper Middle Class forms 4.7% on $11-$20 Lower Middle Class forms 8.7% on $4-$10 Floating Class forms 20.9% on $2-$4 Poor forms 60.8% on <$2 ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/20/2009 Posts: 1,402
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McReggae wrote:I have always said this is an illusion. Latest today I received an assignment to target the upper middle class, lower middle class and the floating class with the following definition and the number represent the Kenyan current scenario:
Upper Class: forms 4.8% on >$20
Upper Middle Class forms 4.7% on $11-$20
Lower Middle Class forms 8.7% on $4-$10
Floating Class forms 20.9% on $2-$4
Poor forms 60.8% on <$2 No Middle Middle Class?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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Muheani wrote:McReggae wrote:I have always said this is an illusion. Latest today I received an assignment to target the upper middle class, lower middle class and the floating class with the following definition and the number represent the Kenyan current scenario:
Upper Class: forms 4.8% on >$20
Upper Middle Class forms 4.7% on $11-$20
Lower Middle Class forms 8.7% on $4-$10
Floating Class forms 20.9% on $2-$4
Poor forms 60.8% on <$2 No Middle Middle Class? Pengine $8-$14 unaweza jiita hivo!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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McReggae wrote:I have always said this is an illusion. Latest today I received an assignment to target the upper middle class, lower middle class and the floating class with the following definition and the number represent the Kenyan current scenario:
Upper Class: forms 4.8% on >$20
Upper Middle Class forms 4.7% on $11-$20
Lower Middle Class forms 8.7% on $4-$10
Floating Class forms 20.9% on $2-$4
Poor forms 60.8% on <$2 Am floating... Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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Impunity wrote:McReggae wrote:I have always said this is an illusion. Latest today I received an assignment to target the upper middle class, lower middle class and the floating class with the following definition and the number represent the Kenyan current scenario:
Upper Class: forms 4.8% on >$20
Upper Middle Class forms 4.7% on $11-$20
Lower Middle Class forms 8.7% on $4-$10
Floating Class forms 20.9% on $2-$4
Poor forms 60.8% on <$2 Am floating... I got it now!!!.....kufloat has a new meaning!!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/21/2011 Posts: 1,010
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floating class............
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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McReggae wrote:Impunity wrote:McReggae wrote:I have always said this is an illusion. Latest today I received an assignment to target the upper middle class, lower middle class and the floating class with the following definition and the number represent the Kenyan current scenario:
Upper Class: forms 4.8% on >$20
Upper Middle Class forms 4.7% on $11-$20
Lower Middle Class forms 8.7% on $4-$10
Floating Class forms 20.9% on $2-$4
Poor forms 60.8% on <$2 Am floating... I got it now!!!.....kufloat has a new meaning!!!! And these are rates per day!!! 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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AlphDoti wrote:McReggae wrote:Impunity wrote:McReggae wrote:I have always said this is an illusion. Latest today I received an assignment to target the upper middle class, lower middle class and the floating class with the following definition and the number represent the Kenyan current scenario:
Upper Class: forms 4.8% on >$20
Upper Middle Class forms 4.7% on $11-$20
Lower Middle Class forms 8.7% on $4-$10
Floating Class forms 20.9% on $2-$4
Poor forms 60.8% on <$2 Am floating... I got it now!!!.....kufloat has a new meaning!!!! And these are rates per day!!! Yeah!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/2/2009 Posts: 2,458 Location: Nairobi
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McReggae wrote:AlphDoti wrote:McReggae wrote:Impunity wrote:McReggae wrote:I have always said this is an illusion. Latest today I received an assignment to target the upper middle class, lower middle class and the floating class with the following definition and the number represent the Kenyan current scenario:
Upper Class: forms 4.8% on >$20
Upper Middle Class forms 4.7% on $11-$20
Lower Middle Class forms 8.7% on $4-$10
Floating Class forms 20.9% on $2-$4
Poor forms 60.8% on <$2 Am floating... I got it now!!!.....kufloat has a new meaning!!!! And these are rates per day!!! Yeah!!! $20 = (85*20=1700) Kes. 1700* 31 = 52,700 Kes. So, according to the stats above, anybody who earns above Kes 52,700 is upper class? That cant be... but I was poor in maths.. kuna hesabu zijafanya vizuri? Is this money spent daily on leisure (Kanywaji na kanyama na kadhalika?), all other bills and comforts sorted? If not then can this be shared with the MP's and county reps..
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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McReggae wrote:I have always said this is an illusion. Latest today I received an assignment to target the upper middle class, lower middle class and the floating class with the following definition and the number represent the Kenyan current scenario:
Upper Class: forms 4.8% on >$20
Upper Middle Class forms 4.7% on $11-$20
Lower Middle Class forms 8.7% on $4-$10
Floating Class forms 20.9% on $2-$4
Poor forms 60.8% on <$2 USD per day ama per hour? All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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poundfoolish wrote:McReggae wrote:AlphDoti wrote:McReggae wrote:Impunity wrote:McReggae wrote:I have always said this is an illusion. Latest today I received an assignment to target the upper middle class, lower middle class and the floating class with the following definition and the number represent the Kenyan current scenario:
Upper Class: forms 4.8% on >$20
Upper Middle Class forms 4.7% on $11-$20
Lower Middle Class forms 8.7% on $4-$10
Floating Class forms 20.9% on $2-$4
Poor forms 60.8% on <$2 Am floating... I got it now!!!.....kufloat has a new meaning!!!! And these are rates per day!!! Yeah!!! $20 = (85*20=1700) Kes. 1700* 31 = 52,700 Kes. So, according to the stats above, anybody who earns above Kes 52,700 is upper class? That cant be... but I was poor in maths.. kuna hesabu zijafanya vizuri? Is this money spent daily on leisure (Kanywaji na kanyama na kadhalika?), all other bills and comforts sorted? If not then can this be shared with the MP's and county reps.. The was a consumer product so basically this refers to the amount you can spend purchasing stuff each day you wake up....as in your money that this product targets everyday!!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/6/2010 Posts: 242
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If You can afford lunch worth 300 kshs per day You are mindo crass.
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/21/2010 Posts: 345 Location: easto
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josimar wrote:If You can afford lunch worth 300 kshs per day You are mindo crass. there are very many variables in this argument. After a google and C/P "Harun Kithi, a marketing manager in one of the banks, aged 32, drives a Toyota Prado VX, and uses between Sh20,000 and Sh25,000 a month on fuel. He has bought his wife a Toyota Harrier, and has a membership card at Hilton fitness club. Kithi likes hanging out at social joints with his favourite being Brew Bistro and Galileo along Waiyaki Way. In one weekend he spends Sh10,000 to Sh15,000 on entertainment, “and that is when I have not taken my wife and my son on a weekend holiday camp, which may triple what I spend on an ordinary weekend,” he said. Kithi is a prototype of the new Kenyan middle class which is now defining which goods and services will next be introduced into the market" "The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts, while the stupid ones are full of confidence." ― Charles Bukowski
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/21/2012 Posts: 1,739
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Magigi wrote:Characteristics
1. Drive a reconditioned BMW, Mercedes,and such other high end second hand cars
2. Owns a house in Ongata Rongai.
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4.... NOPE..Lives in Kileleshwa or Kilimani..on the 8th floor of an apartment. NKT. Why can people not leave within means. Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God..
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/11/2008 Posts: 401
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Middle class and middle income are erroneously used interchangeably. A lot of middle income (nouveau riche) lack class and exhibit antisocial behavior e.g. keeping a pig in a high-rise apartment block.  You can't buy class, you are inculcated into it over a period of time.
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/19/2012 Posts: 552
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tnai9 wrote:josimar wrote:If You can afford lunch worth 300 kshs per day You are mindo crass. there are very many variables in this argument. After a google and C/P "Harun Kithi, a marketing manager in one of the banks, aged 32, drives a Toyota Prado VX, and uses between Sh20,000 and Sh25,000 a month on fuel. He has bought his wife a Toyota Harrier, and has a membership card at Hilton fitness club. Kithi likes hanging out at social joints with his favourite being Brew Bistro and Galileo along Waiyaki Way. In one weekend he spends Sh10,000 to Sh15,000 on entertainment, “and that is when I have not taken my wife and my son on a weekend holiday camp, which may triple what I spend on an ordinary weekend,” he said. Kithi is a prototype of the new Kenyan middle class which is now defining which goods and services will next be introduced into the market" Read in one of the dailies sometime back, how bank employees are deep into debt just to maintain a lifestyle, most have shylocked their lives.So is the middle class the shylocked class  Too often we underestimate the power of a touch, a smile, a kind word, a listening ear, an honest compliment, or the smallest act of caring, all of which have the potential to turn a life around.... Leo Buscaglia
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