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Cord recalls parliamentary committee members
maka
#11 Posted : Tuesday, May 07, 2013 9:43:40 PM
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McReggae wrote:
Let jubilee vet and pass the nominee lists.

The vetting can't. Linturi's motion can't. The vetting of Rawal can't and so on...
possunt quia posse videntur
Jus Blazin
#12 Posted : Tuesday, May 07, 2013 10:23:02 PM
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Um Sayala wrote:
MADE wrote:


Reality check. It's quite ironical that the laws that my CORD(read ODM)engineered during the 10th Parliament are the same ones eating them up!! They were over confident of being the ruling party come elections. Alas!...Democracy is indeed a two edged sword.


This is a phalacy, I think a creation of the media. The 10th parliament had ODM as majority yes, but claiming that now the ODM is entirely CORD is wrong, for example, almost half of Jubilee was ODM, and a number of CORD mps were part of PNU (kalonzo's ODM-K).

Now tell me when the media says CORD passed laws last year knowing they'd win, which CORD (read ODM) was this...William Rutos group?, they were already in bad terms with Raila, Or did ODMK support this motion despite being in PNU?. Where is the hansard?

Common sense dictates that Opposition controls oversight committees, we are in commonwealth, and that is the way it is.

Its only unfortunate that people still think we are in electioneering period.

You didn't realize that common sense wasn't there when the standing orders were changed by the 10th Parliament. Now in Kenya, Opposition doesn't have to control oversight committees. Don't make it a Jubilee/Cord thing, blame the 10th August house.
Luck is when Preparation meets Opportunity. ~ Lucius Annaeus Seneca
Um Sayala
#13 Posted : Tuesday, May 07, 2013 10:37:47 PM
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Jus Blazin wrote:

You didn't realize that common sense wasn't there when the standing orders were changed by the 10th Parliament. Now in Kenya, Opposition doesn't have to control oversight committees. Don't make it a Jubilee/Cord thing, blame the 10th August house.


I agree with you, it was a 10th parliament's mistake. But the media and a section of Wazuans want us to believe that it was ODM who did it, and that ODM is now ALL in CORD, which is a lie.
"Peace is our profession, War is our business" ...Unknown
Jus Blazin
#14 Posted : Tuesday, May 07, 2013 11:09:28 PM
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Um Sayala wrote:
Jus Blazin wrote:

You didn't realize that common sense wasn't there when the standing orders were changed by the 10th Parliament. Now in Kenya, Opposition doesn't have to control oversight committees. Don't make it a Jubilee/Cord thing, blame the 10th August house.


I agree with you, it was a 10th parliament's mistake. But the media and a section of Wazuans want us to believe that it was ODM who did it, and that ODM is now ALL in CORD, which is a lie.

I agree.
Luck is when Preparation meets Opportunity. ~ Lucius Annaeus Seneca
harrydre
#15 Posted : Wednesday, May 08, 2013 1:34:31 AM
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kitendawili! kitendawili! ...mtego wa panya ulishika nani? tena?

mchimba kizima....eehhh...ehhh

CORD just want majority in those committees to frustrate the Govt of UK. Hiyo haiwezekani with the Tyranny!!!wapende wasipende...



i.am.back!!!!
Shak
#16 Posted : Wednesday, May 08, 2013 8:21:49 AM
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harrydre wrote:
kitendawili! kitendawili! ...mtego wa panya ulishika nani? tena?

mchimba kizima....eehhh...ehhh

CORD just want majority in those committees to frustrate the Govt of UK. Hiyo haiwezekani with the Tyranny!!!wapende wasipende...




No law has been broken in the constitution of the committees. If Cord are not satisfied then the best they can do is use parliament to amend the rules. After all they campaigned on the platform of respect for the constitution and all attendant laws. Otherwise it just looks like an attempt to derail government
keraka
#17 Posted : Wednesday, May 08, 2013 8:30:34 AM
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King G wrote:
CORD or so Jakoyo Midiwo is too stubborn to reason. Kwani where is Nyenze the Minority Leader. Let them accept the tyranny of numbers in both houses and move on. in nay case if there is nay malpractices that they are 'claiming' they want to watch over, it is our taxes not theirs.

Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Ati your taxes.You and who.Accountability is good for any Democracy however well intentioned the government in power is including those tribal tin gods of yours whom you think are faultless.
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
guru267
#18 Posted : Wednesday, May 08, 2013 8:30:56 AM
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MAJORITY is MAJORITY!! Ama English is hard...

If CORD want a majority in any committee they must kneel down and beg those who are in majority...

Since when did beggars become choosers??
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
McReggae
#19 Posted : Wednesday, May 08, 2013 8:46:18 AM
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CORD is only asking to guide the watchdog committees, not the others, a govt cannot check itself and after all after the committee hands it's report to parliament, they can always use the tyranny to throw them out!!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
TAZ
#20 Posted : Wednesday, May 08, 2013 9:03:27 AM
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Um Sayala wrote:
Jus Blazin wrote:

You didn't realize that common sense wasn't there when the standing orders were changed by the 10th Parliament. Now in Kenya, Opposition doesn't have to control oversight committees. Don't make it a Jubilee/Cord thing, blame the 10th August house.


I agree with you, it was a 10th parliament's mistake. But the media and a section of Wazuans want us to believe that it was ODM who did it, and that ODM is now ALL in CORD, which is a lie.



"The amended Standing Orders currently in use were tabled at the tail end of the last Parliament when MPs were busy with nominations. It was passed by a few MPs who did not scrutinise it properly, thus the inconsistencies it has," Tongaren MP David Eseli (Ford-Kenya)

I'd really like to know who are these "few" MPs who passed the amendment.


Btw the claim was made by a Jubilee MP who was in the 10th Parliament, not Wazuans or the media.

@ Mc Reggae......I think Jubilee have no problem with CORD taking the leadership role in those two committees but for CORD to demand a majority of members as well is just ridiculous.
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