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Linturi files motion to remove Salaries and Remuneration Commission from office
quicksand
#91 Posted : Friday, May 03, 2013 8:41:34 AM
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maka wrote:
maka wrote:
quicksand wrote:
story teller wrote:
I really don't think the Mpigs can really disband the SRC and they know it..all they can do is intimidate..it's actually working considering that the commission has capitulated and given them a 5 million shilling car grant which in itself is outrageous..

Parliament has perfected the art of bullying..

The motion doesn't seem to have legs from where I am sitting...considering there has to be a tribunal with judges (or people qualified to serve as such),..it is hard to see how our new judges will let this stand. So why did SRC capitulate and are they also going to bend over regarding the new 991K demand? I am deeply upset.

they most definetly will just watch this space and see who will have the last laugh...


Voters took electoral candidates money. MPs, senators, governors, and county reps now want their money back from voters. It is a matter of people eating some meat from a hyena and the hyena now demanding its pound of flesh by wanting their salaries raised. The only way to tame MPs is never to touch their money and bribes. But can people resist? Now in parliament with all power, MPs will have their way.

Koigi Wamwere


Sure,...this is the sort of thing we can expect from our MPigs, ....but Institutions, complete with buttressed Constitutional protections? The SRC just caved even when the threat against them is an uphill task to bring to fruition. I have little confidence in leaders as well as the ability of voters to become enlightened, but I had real hope in Institutions (and the Judiciary) to serve as last line of defence against sheer recklessness and greed of parliament. May be I was wrong. We are screwed.
2012
#92 Posted : Friday, May 03, 2013 9:21:00 AM
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Let me be the devil's advocate and say that I somehowly know where the MPigs are coming from and I support their bid to fight for their salos but not to disband SRC.

BBI will solve it
:)
McReggae
#93 Posted : Friday, May 03, 2013 9:39:18 AM
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2012 wrote:
Let me be the devil's advocate and say that I somehowly know where the MPigs are coming from and I support their bid to fight for their salos but not to disband SRC.


A friend mine says this on FB:

Quote:
If you have ever experienced how an MP spend on his voters, i mean, his constituents, then you will know why they need a high pay rise and an interest free loan of 7M. As long as the electorate dont change the habbit of being bribed to cast a vote, if they dont change from seeing an MP as their leader and not their ATM MACHINE, I am left with only one option, to suport them. Let them be given a pay rise and the loan. After all, on daily basis we call them for harambee, funeral contributions, financial help when our wives give birth, some even call to get help to pay bride price....etc
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
nakujua
#94 Posted : Friday, May 03, 2013 9:45:55 AM
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2012 wrote:
Let me be the devil's advocate and say that I somehowly know where the MPigs are coming from and I support their bid to fight for their salos but not to disband SRC.

agree, employers should also not complain about the 14% minimum wage increase.
we need to learn to pay decent wages, I also hope the knut guys will push for the 300% pay increase for teachers - knut wakae ngumu until their demands are met.
nakujua
#95 Posted : Friday, May 03, 2013 9:49:51 AM
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McReggae wrote:
2012 wrote:
Let me be the devil's advocate and say that I somehowly know where the MPigs are coming from and I support their bid to fight for their salos but not to disband SRC.


A friend mine says this on FB:

Quote:
If you have ever experienced how an MP spend on his voters, i mean, his constituents, then you will know why they need a high pay rise and an interest free loan of 7M. As long as the electorate dont change the habbit of being bribed to cast a vote, if they dont change from seeing an MP as their leader and not their ATM MACHINE, I am left with only one option, to suport them. Let them be given a pay rise and the loan. After all, on daily basis we call them for harambee, funeral contributions, financial help when our wives give birth, some even call to get help to pay bride price....etc

I sympathize with the mp's its a very hard job - plus all the contributions they have to make they deserve the increase. Even agwenyis car stalled somewhere because his fuel "ended".
we should not demonize the mp's they have rights also.
Impunity
#96 Posted : Friday, May 03, 2013 9:59:32 AM
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nakujua wrote:
McReggae wrote:
2012 wrote:
Let me be the devil's advocate and say that I somehowly know where the MPigs are coming from and I support their bid to fight for their salos but not to disband SRC.


A friend mine says this on FB:

Quote:
If you have ever experienced how an MP spend on his voters, i mean, his constituents, then you will know why they need a high pay rise and an interest free loan of 7M. As long as the electorate dont change the habbit of being bribed to cast a vote, if they dont change from seeing an MP as their leader and not their ATM MACHINE, I am left with only one option, to suport them. Let them be given a pay rise and the loan. After all, on daily basis we call them for harambee, funeral contributions, financial help when our wives give birth, some even call to get help to pay bride price....etc

I sympathize with the mp's its a very hard job - plus all the contributions they have to make they deserve the increase. Even agwenyis car stalled somewhere because his fuel "ended".
we should not demonize the mp's they have rights also.


The fuel in Anghwenyi's car ended?So thats why he was so angry in the parliament!!!
And why was Jakoyo Midiwo so emotional on the pay debate?He should have left the Jubilee wing of the house to muddle in the mess, why drag RAO clean sheet in the mess?
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alma
#97 Posted : Friday, May 03, 2013 10:17:21 AM
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A lot of us obviously have no clue about the meaning of inflation and crushing economies

In the first month of the Jubilee gov't we have

1. MP's salary increases
2. Workers 14% pay increases
3. Free Laptops
4. Less money collected by KRA

This is only month 1.

There is no free money in this world. There is no economic growth without productivity.

Someone has to pay. You will pay in cash (tax increases) or in kind (brookside milk at 100 bob)

That is what you get for euphoric democracy. Consequences coming up at a theatre near you.
Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
washiku
#98 Posted : Friday, May 03, 2013 10:23:49 AM
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maka wrote:
Shak wrote:
maka wrote:
let them get paid and the workers too the 14% increment and the househelps too...

How many Wazuans with house helps pay them the statutory minimum wage?

very few we can bet on that...


I would bet none
Kaigangio
#99 Posted : Friday, May 03, 2013 10:28:42 AM
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alma wrote:
A lot of us obviously have no clue about the meaning of inflation and crushing economies

In the first month of the Jubilee gov't we have

1. MP's salary increases
2. Workers 14% pay increases
3. Free Laptops
4. Less money collected by KRA

This is only month 1.

There is no free money in this world. There is no economic growth without productivity.

Someone has to pay. You will pay in cash (tax increases) or in kind (brookside milk at 100 bob)

That is what you get for euphoric democracy. Consequences coming up at a theatre near you.


Even if we elected anyone else for presidency i believe except for free laptops (whose gross worth is negligible compared to the annual revenue collection), the rest of the issues would still have persisted anyway...
...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
maka
#100 Posted : Friday, May 03, 2013 10:37:04 AM
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Location: Nairobi
alma wrote:
A lot of us obviously have no clue about the meaning of inflation and crushing economies

In the first month of the Jubilee gov't we have

1. MP's salary increases
2. Workers 14% pay increases
3. Free Laptops
4. Less money collected by KRA

This is only month 1.

There is no free money in this world. There is no economic growth without productivity.

Someone has to pay. You will pay in cash (tax increases) or in kind (brookside milk at 100 bob)

That is what you get for euphoric democracy. Consequences coming up at a theatre near you.

thats the beauty of laissez faire il be very happy if milk reaches 100 bob i gather tomato is 15 bob at sm places...
possunt quia posse videntur
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