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Ethnic balance in the workplace?
adept
#1 Posted : Wednesday, October 28, 2009 6:22:00 AM
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This is something I just thought about and found a little startling.

Take a look at these statistics:

Out of 160 applicants for positions we had publicly advertised,more than 80% of the applicants came from only two ethnic communities in Kenya (let us call them Community A and B).

We eventually picked about 20 persons. Of these,45% came from community A,40% came from community B with the remaining 15% going to the rest. And just in case you were wondering,Community A and B come from completely different parts of the country.

Of course for us as a profit-making enterprise,direct value addition is more important than where someone comes from so we selected persons based on skills vs. job fit. I can say without any fear of contradiction that we did not hire anyone based on their ethnic background.

Further,all positions are based in Nairobi so geography should not have been a major concern for most applicants considering the ethnic mix in Nairobi.

Anyone without the benefit of knowing the pool of applicants we had to choose from can very easily cite us as tribal because 85% of our new hires are from 2 communities!

I wonder if this is the same challenge employers face across the country.

1. Do organisations need to have some form of affirmative action?

2. Would private enterprise in general be willing to go that extra mile (read expense) to get persons from different communities just to achieve some form of ethnic balance?

Maybe it all depends on what the institution's target market is at the end of the day.

Anywho,just thinking aloud.
mtaalam
#2 Posted : Wednesday, October 28, 2009 7:17:00 AM
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If you are a profit making org my suggestion is get the best person for the job irrespective of ethnic. If you check most mission and vision statements excellence and not ethnic is key.

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#3 Posted : Wednesday, October 28, 2009 7:54:00 AM
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@ adept

for a profit making organization,ethnic balance may not count like for a not to profit & govt organization..

but if the marketing strategy of the profit making organization is to penetrate every region,every ethnic area,then the recruitment & selection policy of the organization may have to be altered to cater for the ethnic balance lest the consumers stage an economic sabotage..

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#4 Posted : Wednesday, October 28, 2009 8:11:00 AM
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@Adept

I think this is a headache for most employers. but if you are profit making institution,it really does not matter. The only problem is with time,the organisation will be dominated by one or two communities that everyone will think you did a 'selective' interview.

One guy in a very high position in one of the leading institutions around sited the same thing...... he receives so many applications,after vetting and interview,he is left with 3/4 of the shortlisted to choose from coming from one community.... and this is not even his community and said it was just pure coincidence as their interviews are very professional and 'output' oriented.

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mukiha
#5 Posted : Wednesday, October 28, 2009 8:31:00 AM
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A few years ago,I did some work three private companies:


The first is owned by a Kikuyu and all the 25 employees are Kikuyu
The second is owned by a Kamba and has 23 Kamba employees [3 being brothers of the owner],one kalenjin and one Kikuyu
The third is owned by a Kisii,has 60 Kisiis,one Meru and one Kalenjin

The owner of Kamba company later called me and asked for assistance in recruiting some new people. His brief was; 'I don't want any more Kambas; in fact if you can get me some one from the smallest tribe,I will be very happy'

The challenge private businesses face,especially family owned ones,is that once you start growing and employing,your relatives will plead with you to pick their children...then your friends will come next and before you know it your company will be full of people from your village...not just your tribe.

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#6 Posted : Wednesday, October 28, 2009 9:06:00 AM
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For the business I do 90% of my staff come from one ethnic community,which by the way is different from mine.

I also once worked for a major manufacturer in industrial area (over 3,000 staff) and they had some very interesting rules on ethnicity which worked well;

1. Employ kambas as the general factory floor supervisors (loyalty)

2. No Kikuyus in the stores (obvious)

3. No Luo or Luhya men in the factory floor (incitement factor)

4. Put only Luo men in the design section (good handiwork)

5. Generally women from the said communities were preffered to men if they were past child bearing age.

Interesting.....



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#7 Posted : Friday, October 30, 2009 5:32:00 AM
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When I joined my current place of work,it looked to me as if there was ethnic discrimination because of the high percentage of a certain tribe ( I come from that tribe myself but could not help feeling as if there had been some mapendeleo leading to skewed distribution).

Then as time went by,I noticed again a greater percentage of promotions went to this tribe. On further examination,I could see that the promotions were well-deserved and the people who were climbing up had proven themselves i.e. I clearly knew the high impact projects they had led,the output was clear. I also started taking keen interest in who was making what contribution,their academic and work background etc and I finally came to conclude that these people had merit both when being recruited and when being promoted. It looked like a basic numbers game.

The problem is: from an outside view,it always looks like something is fishy. One would need to take a deeper look and critically examine the organization. But therein is the problem of image i.e. from the outsider who does not have inner view of the performance,qualifications etc,it will always look like ethnicity had a role to play.

That said,I know organizations which discriminate and make no effort to even hide it. This is plainly shameful.

I would say,if one can prove that each employee hired/promoted met certain objective performance criteria,it should really not be a big issue what tribe holds what number of positions.


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#8 Posted : Friday, October 30, 2009 6:27:00 AM
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No No No No No....

I'm not going to spend thousands of my hard earned cash putting up vacancy notices in the newspaper....

And then spend thousands more following anyone in the village to find out if they want the job....

especially,not if the ones who bothered to apply are qualified....

if the others are too inept to find out about the opportunity I'm offering or too lazy to apply....

They're too lazy to work for me.... PERIOD

I have no kyuks or kales or whatever tribe working for me...

I only have KYMs and they shall remain KYMs until they prove themselves then they'll join me as employers and we'll look for more KYMs...
Simpson
#9 Posted : Friday, October 30, 2009 6:34:00 AM
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This is a really interesting discussion - I pray we keep it civil. My friend got togeher with office colleagues to form a consultancy of 5 guys. They come from 4 different communities - only 2 from the same community. When I visit their office,it has a real Kenyan feel to it. Compare this to some big businesses whose management meetings can be held in one ethnic language. Go on,open their webisites and click the management link. Some of the companies are owned by the country's top professionals - vocal rights lawyers included. Ofcourse you can find all the skills you need from one community especially if that community is one of the big 3 or 4. Question for me is,if you want to do bisiness countrywide,should you not make an effort to blend your workforce? Naivas Supermarkets have been opening branches in many small towns across the country,is it a business necessity to have all packers,loaders and cleaners sourced from the owners' villages? On this count Nakumatt has shown axcellent tact.

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#10 Posted : Friday, October 30, 2009 7:32:00 AM
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Which firm has 3000 employees... is it a private firm? Only one that comes to mind is EABL...

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#11 Posted : Friday, October 30, 2009 8:45:00 AM
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I worked in a large firm managed by foreigners. As it was a startup,they recruited almost everyone thru' PWC.
After about 1 year and promotions were nigh,there was a concentration of one tribe at the top. Nobody read too much into it as those folks were very good at what they were doing.

But lower cadre recruitments started taking a tribal angle,and the 'galagarias' noticed the skew at the top. A tribal war of influence at the shop floor level found its way up,good senior managers left,the dominating tribe hounded good employees from the resigning tribe.

The Orange/ Banana nonsense of 05 was the last nail on the coffin - the company became a joke,today it is the best case on 'how not to run a company' - Notwithstanding that it is in the fastest growing sectors.

There is a high end IT firm,10 employees - where recruitment is only on merit,as it require very high quality skills for the systems they deal in. Recruitment is through public vacancy notices. Very rigourous,practical aptitude tests. Interviews are done to those who attain a specified mark on the aptitude test.

80% of staff are from one tribe.

Very confusing.

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tutebeng
#12 Posted : Friday, October 30, 2009 8:52:00 AM
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The progression Mukiha writes about is one I have noted in the many local organizations I have had the opportunity to interact with. The challenge is whether many of these SMES can actually transform.

I have witnessed companies make an effort to detribalise themselves especially when they select to become corporate. This is encouraging. One such indicator is when there is collective agreement on the non-use of vernacular languages in the office. Then a board of directors is constructed,and the directors accounts are eliminated from the financial statements. Later on the owners elect to develop a recrcuitment policy which forms the basis of interviews.

These challenges are not unique,but the fortunate firms are those that from the onset embrace the some of these formal structures right from the start,but those are the exceptions.

Often many of us do not realize the impact of discrimination,but it does occur in offices where colleagues discuss the workmates in other languages. All is well until one discovers what the others are saying.














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tutebeng
#13 Posted : Friday, October 30, 2009 8:56:00 AM
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3000 employees probably also includes in my estimate the top 2 or 3 commercial banks

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#14 Posted : Friday, October 30, 2009 9:02:00 AM
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The Institute of Economic Affairs (IEA) published a perceptions study on 'tribal divide' in Kenya,to say the least,there are some very strong ethnic perceptions in the country across the board.It is therefore not suprising that even when there is no 'tribalism' the perception is quite different.

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#15 Posted : Friday, October 30, 2009 4:20:00 PM
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Where I work,a very fair ethnic distribution is easily noticed. I doubt anyone can complain. I guess I knw at least several names fm each of our tribes

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#16 Posted : Friday, October 30, 2009 6:31:00 PM
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I normally peek at KCSE results (http://www.examscouncil.or.ke/index.php?option=com_docman&task=cat_view&gid=27&Itemid=34 ;Top Candidates Natinally) to gauge competitive makeup of potential candidates ... and this validates your results as being non-biased...

Having said that, we must acknowledge a tremedous national bias towards urban dwellers and those within proximity to Nai ...

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#17 Posted : Friday, October 30, 2009 6:33:00 PM
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No one chooses to become a luo,a kikuyu,a lunje,a waria.. no one. However,the level of education and skill depends on the person.

An employer looks for skill,not ethnicity. Get the skill,diversity is a plus. Merit wins,any day.

On the other hand,if one or two ethnicities dominate,doesnt that mean that those ethnicities are more developed,more skilled?

In my department,out of 20 people,we have abt 10 diff ethnicities,We dont notice that there are diff ethnicities. My firm encourages different cultures,races,ethnicity and interactions. maybe thats why we are that diverse..
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#18 Posted : Saturday, October 31, 2009 4:33:00 PM
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The population should determine the weighting of people in Government. If Kikuyus are 22% of the country they should have 22% of the positions. Thats my take
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#19 Posted : Saturday, October 31, 2009 7:00:00 PM
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This is very great insight guyz.i dont live in kenya but this is a great discussion and am glad to see that most organizations hire on merit. affirmative action would help as it would bring a little bit more balance,but it should only be implemented in a way that makes the people who benefit earn it rather than just get it handed to them.
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#20 Posted : Sunday, November 01, 2009 8:04:00 PM
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merit not tribe... sso what if kikuyus are 22%... it shud not mean they shud have 22% of jobs... it cud be higher or lower... they shud have 0-100% as long as it is merit based...

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