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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/25/2009 Posts: 4,534 Location: Windhoek/Nairobbery
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obiero wrote:here are the exchange bar figures for Q1 2013: PBT up 14.7% [call it 14-16%] to KES 218 [KES215-220M]. Total assets up 4.3% from KES 30.2B to KES 31.5B. NPL stable at about 4.9%.. *3% +- margin of error on PBT to be tolerated* HF total assets as of 31.12.2012 @ KES40.9Bn.... 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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the deal wrote:obiero wrote:here are the exchange bar figures for Q1 2013: PBT up 14.7% [call it 14-16%] to KES 218 [KES215-220M]. Total assets up 4.3% from KES 30.2B to KES 31.5B. NPL stable at about 4.9%.. *3% +- margin of error on PBT to be tolerated* HF total assets as of 31.12.2012 @ KES40.9Bn.... Hehe.. Y'all at the exchange should layoff the hard stuff!!! it'll kill ya.. Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,484 Location: nairobi
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guru267 wrote:the deal wrote:obiero wrote:here are the exchange bar figures for Q1 2013: PBT up 14.7% [call it 14-16%] to KES 218 [KES215-220M]. Total assets up 4.3% from KES 30.2B to KES 31.5B. NPL stable at about 4.9%.. *3% +- margin of error on PBT to be tolerated* HF total assets as of 31.12.2012 @ KES40.9Bn.... Hehe.. Y'all at the exchange should layoff the hard stuff!!! it'll kill ya.. Haha. Noted and withdrawn. Btw, u still owe me a date sweetheart. As for the error, I meant total loans and advances not total assets..
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 1/4/2013 Posts: 22
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guru267 wrote:the deal wrote:obiero wrote:here are the exchange bar figures for Q1 2013: PBT up 14.7% [call it 14-16%] to KES 218 [KES215-220M]. Total assets up 4.3% from KES 30.2B to KES 31.5B. NPL stable at about 4.9%.. *3% +- margin of error on PBT to be tolerated* HF total assets as of 31.12.2012 @ KES40.9Bn.... Hehe.. Y'all at the exchange should layoff the hard stuff!!! it'll kill ya.. past two days, this diamond seems headed south, case of "rumor was bought, now news( potential news) on sale" ? Dum vivimus, vivamus.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2010 Posts: 5,040
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obiero wrote:here are the exchange bar figures for Q1 2013: PBT up 14.7% [call it 14-16%] to KES 218 [KES215-220M]. Total assets up 4.3% from KES 30.2B to KES 31.5B. NPL stable at about 4.9%.. *3% +- margin of error on PBT to be tolerated* Your figures if true show a good performance. Considering the uncertainty of Q1. By a time like this next year, things will be very good for current hfck shareholders. The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,180 Location: nairobi
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Iam not about to review my exit target of 60bob by dec. 2014 or earlier hope no rights will surface on my way. "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/31/2011 Posts: 5,121
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Aguytrying wrote:obiero wrote:here are the exchange bar figures for Q1 2013: PBT up 14.7% [call it 14-16%] to KES 218 [KES215-220M]. loans and advances up 4.3% from KES 30.2B to KES 31.5B. NPL stable at about 4.9%.. *3% +- margin of error on PBT to be tolerated* Your figures if true show a good performance. Considering the uncertainty of Q1. By a time like this next year, things will be very good for current hfck shareholders. Actually that Q1 2013/Q1 2012 PBT growth is better than what was realized last year (Q1 2012/Q1 2011). And if they have grown the bottom line that much with a marginal growth in loan book, how will it be when loan book is increased in the year ..... @obiero, recheck that NPL ratio, FY 12 Gross NPL/Loans was 7.70%
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2012 Posts: 5,222
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new wrote:guru267 wrote:the deal wrote:obiero wrote:here are the exchange bar figures for Q1 2013: PBT up 14.7% [call it 14-16%] to KES 218 [KES215-220M]. Total assets up 4.3% from KES 30.2B to KES 31.5B. NPL stable at about 4.9%.. *3% +- margin of error on PBT to be tolerated* HF total assets as of 31.12.2012 @ KES40.9Bn.... Hehe.. Y'all at the exchange should layoff the hard stuff!!! it'll kill ya.. past two days, this diamond seems headed south, case of "rumor was bought, now news( potential news) on sale" ? Someone using the proxy @obiero was looking for a way in. Discredit a counter, Wanjiku buys the negativity then board at a discount. We've seen his kind before.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/2/2008 Posts: 1,438
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Obiero,
Thanks for giving us a chance to add to our positions. The bus is back in motion.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,484 Location: nairobi
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mwekez@ji wrote:Aguytrying wrote:obiero wrote:here are the exchange bar figures for Q1 2013: PBT up 14.7% [call it 14-16%] to KES 218 [KES215-220M]. loans and advances up 4.3% from KES 30.2B to KES 31.5B. NPL stable at about 4.9%.. *3% +- margin of error on PBT to be tolerated* Your figures if true show a good performance. Considering the uncertainty of Q1. By a time like this next year, things will be very good for current hfck shareholders. Actually that Q1 2013/Q1 2012 PBT growth is better than what was realized last year (Q1 2012/Q1 2011). And if they have grown the bottom line that much with a marginal growth in loan book, how will it be when loan book is increased in the year ..... @obiero, recheck that NPL ratio, FY 12 Gross NPL/Loans was 7.70% @mwekez@ji I cant recheck a discussion! This was the feedback from insiders!
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/31/2011 Posts: 5,121
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obiero wrote:mwekez@ji wrote:Aguytrying wrote:obiero wrote:here are the exchange bar figures for Q1 2013: PBT up 14.7% [call it 14-16%] to KES 218 [KES215-220M]. loans and advances up 4.3% from KES 30.2B to KES 31.5B. NPL stable at about 4.9%.. *3% +- margin of error on PBT to be tolerated* Your figures if true show a good performance. Considering the uncertainty of Q1. By a time like this next year, things will be very good for current hfck shareholders. Actually that Q1 2013/Q1 2012 PBT growth is better than what was realized last year (Q1 2012/Q1 2011). And if they have grown the bottom line that much with a marginal growth in loan book, how will it be when loan book is increased in the year ..... @obiero, recheck that NPL ratio, FY 12 Gross NPL/Loans was 7.70% @mwekez@ji I cant recheck a discussion! This was the feedback from insiders! Cool, i regard the info given on NPL as null and void
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,180 Location: nairobi
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http://www.reuters.com/a...ce-idUSBRE93A0O420130411"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,180 Location: nairobi
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I hope a rights is not an option,are they utilising the bonds and servicing well..whats their debt limits? "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2013 Posts: 2,552
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HFCK is in my possible maybe list as of now.But I'm liking the current action.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2010 Posts: 5,040
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mlennyma wrote:I hope a rights is not an option,are they utilising the bonds and servicing well..whats their debt limits? In a post up there u predicted it. I didnt see this coming. They are getting aggressive now that theres peace. I don't doubt their ability, but it puts a spanner in my investment time table.still an exciting share with or without the rights issue. Fingers crossed it goes the dtb, nic way The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,180 Location: nairobi
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Lets then assume a well priced rights issue is only harmful in bear markets. "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,484 Location: nairobi
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KES 215m was the prediction and the exchange bar has not fallen short. though the drinks caused us to overlook the percentages.. a good performance by the diamond
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 6/17/2009 Posts: 1,619
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obiero wrote:KES 215m was the prediction and the exchange bar has not fallen short. though the drinks caused us to overlook the percentages.. a good performance by the diamond Time to find out the cost of a bottle of sparkling mineral water at the said bar.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,484 Location: nairobi
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cnn wrote:obiero wrote:KES 215m was the prediction and the exchange bar has not fallen short. though the drinks caused us to overlook the percentages.. a good performance by the diamond Time to find out the cost of a bottle of sparkling mineral water at the said bar. haha. kuwa mpole uone parliament ikikataa Ngilu na Balala
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/25/2009 Posts: 4,534 Location: Windhoek/Nairobbery
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obiero wrote:KES 215m was the prediction and the exchange bar has not fallen short. though the drinks caused us to overlook the percentages.. a good performance by the diamond Quarter one highlights: Profit before tax increased 47 percent to Kshs 279 million up from Kshs 190 million. Profit after tax up 46 percent to Kshs 195 million from Kshs 133 million. Net loans and advances to customers increased 20 percent to Kshs 31.6 billion up from Kshs 26.4 billion. Net interest income up 46 percent to Kshs 665.1 million, up from Kshs 456.3 million. Customer deposits up 31 percent to Kshs 24.5 billion from Kshs 18.7 billion. Gross NPL increased to Kshs 2.6 billion from Kshs 1.4 billion. Earnings per share up 46 percent to Kshs 3.39 up from Kshs 2.32.
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