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Shackles of Doom
chiaroscuro
#41 Posted : Monday, April 22, 2013 12:19:25 PM
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....and the Embu have the lioness's share with an excess factor of 2.2..... the Taita at 2.1 take the leopard's share....

But the some ignorant triballist will come and tell us that Embus and Kikuyus are part of GEMA so their numbers should be treated together!!! Let me tell them that GEMA was an association - the "A" at the end stood for "Association"
Angelica _ann
#42 Posted : Monday, April 22, 2013 12:56:33 PM
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tribal digital
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FundamentAli
#43 Posted : Monday, April 22, 2013 12:59:49 PM
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chiaroscuro wrote:
masukuma wrote:
McReggae wrote:
dunkang wrote:
The Butere Girls Play, Shackles of Doom, is therefore OKAY!

Why conspire to block it if 'members from those regions aren't given free cash or unga by the above mentioned leaders'.


Exactment....why block....even the NCIC audit showed the same dominace by a few tribes. why block the play???


the environment has already been poisoned.
I am asking myself - what is the motive of the play-write? A fact check by NCIC reveals that Kyuks indeed have an unfair tally (a variance of 4%) as reported in this report
http://198.38.90.109/~cohesion/images/downloads/ethnic%20diversity%20of%20the%20civil%20service.pdf However, we need to remember that the play will still be there even the reality changes. It could be published as a short story or a play for some African nation to read in future, a future where Kyuks may not be having a large number of public positions
if it is to tackle tribalism and nepotism (something that is not unique to kyuks - for reference check out the stats of the employees of the office of the prime minister) the play can be re-written so that it uses imagery and fictitious groups of people. Let him borrow a leaf from George Orwell who used a farm of animals to attack Communism and other related groupings and regimes. his writings have been timeless since they have attacked an ideology not a group of people. however if the ODM County Assembly Ward Rep.'s motive is to attack Nepotism and Tribalism in Kikuyu - he is spot on!


That document does not interpret the statistics correctly.

According to the table in page 6, Kikuyus are 17.7% of the population and they have 22.3% of civil service posts. Corresponding figures for others tribes are as follows:

Kalenjin 13.3% Vs 16.7%

Luhya 14.2% Vs 11.3%

Kamba 10.4% Vs 9.7%

Luo 10.8% Vs 9.0%

Kisii 5.9% Vs 6.8%

Meru 4.4% Vs 5.9%

Mijikenda 5.2% Vs 3.8%

Kenya Somali 6.4% Vs 2.7%

Embu 0.9% Vs 2.0%

Masai 2.2% Vs 1.5%

Taita 0.7% Vs 1.5%

Boran 0.4% Vs 1.2%

Turkana 2.6% Vs 1.0%

From these numbers, the document concludes that "The Kikuyu and the Kalenjin have a disproportionate share of civil service posts compared to their population."

While that is a factual statement, it portrays the erroneous impression that these two tribes have the largest disproportion of jobs compared to their population.

Nothing could be farther from the truth!

Looking at the figures again, it quickly emerges that while the Kikuyu and Kalenjin have exceeded their expected share of jobs by a factor of only 1.26 (DIVIDE the percent of jobs by the percent of population), the Boran have exceeded theirs by a factor of 3!

According to that data, it is the Boran who have the lion's share of jobs!

But I think the people who prepared the document were blinded by the fact that Kenya has only had Presidents from the Kikuyu and the Kalenjin tribes.

When I look at these figures, I only ask myself one question. Have they ever looked at the age structure (say population between age 25 and 60) and adjusted the population figures accordingly? 20 years ago there might have been a balance but the population growth is not uniform across the country.
butterflyke
#44 Posted : Monday, April 22, 2013 5:51:42 PM
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for all the publicity (negative or publicity) is someone thinking of putting it out on dvd for sale? (copyright and all?) smile
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jaggernaut
#45 Posted : Monday, April 22, 2013 6:56:07 PM
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butterflyke wrote:
for all the publicity (negative or publicity) is someone thinking of putting it out on dvd for sale? (copyright and all?) smile


People already making millions via dvd sales
washiku
#46 Posted : Monday, April 22, 2013 9:00:30 PM
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harrydre
#47 Posted : Tuesday, April 23, 2013 12:21:23 AM
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washiku wrote:
Nasikia haikumakeit


oooh yes, haikuwesmake it failed to impress, however the very people it was attacking cashed in..irony nayo!

Kakamega, Riara & Menengai are the finalists.

i.am.back!!!!
murchr
#48 Posted : Tuesday, April 23, 2013 2:26:46 AM
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The the content of the script was reckless, naive vitriolic and lacked in artistry. The writer was carried away in the politics of the day such that he was engulfed in stereotyping. If this is the future of drama festivals then we are doomed.
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harrydre
#49 Posted : Tuesday, April 23, 2013 3:55:05 AM
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Stolen.. Analysis of Shackles of Doom: By Geoffrey Wainaina

I'm of the opinion that the play Shackles of doom was more negative than positive. I'm also of the opinion that the play was highly tribalistic, offensive and full of negative stereotyping. But I do agree with the Court's that banning the play at the National level was counterproductive. I believe the play made it through the Zonals, Districts and Provincials due to Playing in the ethnic advantage fields- That's where the problem was borne..

The proponents of the play have argued that its creative art, that its the reality in our society bla bla bla. - UTTER BALONEY!

You don't kill the ethnic problem in our country with being more ethnic, you don't invoke creativity of Students where an ODM politician was the one behind the play.

But I'm more concerned about the young kids who did the play, the young kids who watched the play and the young kids who believed the play. The kids of tomorrow generation.

***Now the kids have a reason and excuse to give if they do not make it in life- Its because of Kikuyu's.

*** Now the Kids have someone ( a tribe) to blame if they become poor- Its the Kikuyus.

***Now the kids will take over where their dads left with the negative stereotypes of vilifying the Kikuyu community, endless whining and calling them thieves thanks to the controversial play.

In the meantime Kamau the Hawker is making a kill by selling copies of the Controversial play to unshackle himself from the Chains of poverty. By the time we are through debating this, Kamau will have acquired himself a plot from the proceeds of a play that vilified and stereotyped his community- and yes you who watched shackles of doom and is still shackled by poverty will call him a thief ......... and life will go on!
i.am.back!!!!
murchr
#50 Posted : Tuesday, April 23, 2013 6:54:53 AM
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harrydre wrote:
Stolen.. Analysis of Shackles of Doom: By Geoffrey Wainaina

I'm of the opinion that the play Shackles of doom was more negative than positive. I'm also of the opinion that the play was highly tribalistic, offensive and full of negative stereotyping. But I do agree with the Court's that banning the play at the National level was counterproductive. I believe the play made it through the Zonals, Districts and Provincials due to Playing in the ethnic advantage fields- That's where the problem was borne..

The proponents of the play have argued that its creative art, that its the reality in our society bla bla bla. - UTTER BALONEY!

You don't kill the ethnic problem in our country with being more ethnic, you don't invoke creativity of Students where an ODM politician was the one behind the play.

But I'm more concerned about the young kids who did the play, the young kids who watched the play and the young kids who believed the play. The kids of tomorrow generation.

***Now the kids have a reason and excuse to give if they do not make it in life- Its because of Kikuyu's.

*** Now the Kids have someone ( a tribe) to blame if they become poor- Its the Kikuyus.

***Now the kids will take over where their dads left with the negative stereotypes of vilifying the Kikuyu community, endless whining and calling them thieves thanks to the controversial play.

In the meantime Kamau the Hawker is making a kill by selling copies of the Controversial play to unshackle himself from the Chains of poverty. By the time we are through debating this, Kamau will have acquired himself a plot from the proceeds of a play that vilified and stereotyped his community- and yes you who watched shackles of doom and is still shackled by poverty will call him a thief ......... and life will go on!


Excellent!
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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