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Bree wrote:kingfisher wrote:McReggae wrote:mawinder wrote:McReggae wrote:mawinder wrote:McReggae wrote:....kenyans love violence, even when there is no indication of any.....madharau nayo!!!! We know which people in Kenya love violence.I thought you are Kenyan too!!!!!! Yeah we know those who love violence, infact we remember the PEV and before even the Mathira massacre....you can google!!!! We also know of Bhagdad boys and president Museveni may have been right with his comments after the railway was uprooted by a certain people. Great you acknowledge the real violence......of murder and rape!!!! @mawinder and Jahman  I second that...our tribe is Kenya  Let us not bury our heads in the sand and claim that there is a tribe called Kenya,  . Kenya is the Country. Tribes make Kenya. It is how we intergrat the tribes harmoniously that matter without steriotyping! Thieves
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/30/2008 Posts: 6,029
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Um Sayala wrote:mawinder wrote:harrydre wrote:mawinder wrote:I remember when the original Kenyatta visited Kisumu and Odinga senior was also present.It is now Kenyatta Junior and Odinga Junior.@Guka,please explain to the grandkids what happened and why leadership will forever elude a certain group. I really hope those events will not be repeated. That will sound a strong statement on all those in attendance. They should actually be there at the same time. Which events and I can't remember seeing you in a History class in Bush!!! @Hyrrydre and @Mawinder Its good to hear that you were both in Bush, and both did history. My only worry is that what u learnt in High school seems to have stuck in your heads like gospel truth. And u never took time later to Interrogate any further truth or otherwise, especially of this event in 1969.May be I need to teach the teacher who taught you History. Ask yourselves, could there have been a third hand in the Kisumu incident? DELETED COZ OF PUBLIC DEMAND Fortunately I quoted your post and I wont delete it.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/21/2008 Posts: 2,490
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mawinder wrote:Um Sayala wrote:mawinder wrote:harrydre wrote:mawinder wrote:I remember when the original Kenyatta visited Kisumu and Odinga senior was also present.It is now Kenyatta Junior and Odinga Junior.@Guka,please explain to the grandkids what happened and why leadership will forever elude a certain group. I really hope those events will not be repeated. That will sound a strong statement on all those in attendance. They should actually be there at the same time. Which events and I can't remember seeing you in a History class in Bush!!! @Hyrrydre and @Mawinder Its good to hear that you were both in Bush, and both did history. My only worry is that what u learnt in High school seems to have stuck in your heads like gospel truth. And u never took time later to Interrogate any further truth or otherwise, especially of this event in 1969.May be I need to teach the teacher who taught you History. Ask yourselves, could there have been a third hand in the Kisumu incident? CHS 403: History of Post colonial Kenya ...Before Mboya's death, he was used to finish Oginga's KPU politically...this was successful. after this,Mboya had to be eliminated because he was a threat to the "family"- the group that cobbled around Jomo(some were relas, some not). Mboya was youthful, energetic and intelligent, thus the fear of him taking power from Mzee. When Mboya 'died', the whole country was united against certain group who were perceived to have assassinated him. This threatened to unite the Luos from south and central Nyanza, with the rest of kenyans to join Odinga's KPU, now that there was a general election that same year. The power could leave the house. That is how a visit to Russia (Kisumu) was organised and booing, heckling and stones had to be thrown by the 'crowd'. Yes it was the 'crowd' that threw the stones and heckled and not the normal crowd. With this 20 people lost their lives and about 100 wounded. The plot was successful. Blame it on Odinga. Ban KPU and true to the letter, elections in that year was a walkover for KANU. I should have mentioned the vehicles marked 'KANU PRIVATE' that transported people to Gatundu and what they went to do, just before this incident. Questions? Strictly history quiz, sio siasa. Then the mzee or his handlers were very calculating.Give us more because apparently history may have been distorted to paint some people in bad light. @ Um Sayala Are you saying that the incident was carried out by a "Crowd" from elsewhere??? The man who marries a beautiful woman, and the farmer who grows corn by the roadside have the same problem
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2009 Posts: 7,924
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If you thought Kibaki can throw some serious words, you don't know anything! Mzee jomo Kenyatta could make him sound like a boy scout and alter boy all rolled into one. Listen to this Jomo speech after some people tried to throw some stones/aggs at him in Kisumu. I know the wazees have heard it but for some it will be the first time! A very angry Jomo KenyattaNever count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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MaichBlack wrote:If you thought Kibaki can throw some serious words, you don't know anything! Mzee jomo Kenyatta could make him sound like a boy scout and alter boy all rolled into one. Listen to this Jomo speech after some people tried to throw some stones/aggs at him in Kisumu. I know the wazees have heard it but for some it will be the first time! A very angry Jomo Kenyatta Kenyatta origino was just special...did i hear some few ku** ma**s?? from a whole PORK? yenyewe Kenya has changed. i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/17/2008 Posts: 478 Location: Old Trafford
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King G wrote:Bree wrote:kingfisher wrote:McReggae wrote:mawinder wrote:McReggae wrote:mawinder wrote:McReggae wrote:....kenyans love violence, even when there is no indication of any.....madharau nayo!!!! We know which people in Kenya love violence.I thought you are Kenyan too!!!!!! Yeah we know those who love violence, infact we remember the PEV and before even the Mathira massacre....you can google!!!! We also know of Bhagdad boys and president Museveni may have been right with his comments after the railway was uprooted by a certain people. Great you acknowledge the real violence......of murder and rape!!!! @mawinder and Jahman  I second that...our tribe is Kenya  Let us not bury our heads in the sand and claim that there is a tribe called Kenya,  . Kenya is the Country. Tribes make Kenya. It is how we intergrat the tribes harmoniously that matter without steriotyping! It has worked in Rwanda(tho in a very pathetic way), it can work in Kenya without any bloodshed!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/11/2006 Posts: 972 Location: Home
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King G wrote:McReggae wrote:mawinder wrote:McReggae wrote:mawinder wrote:McReggae wrote:....kenyans love violence, even when there is no indication of any.....madharau nayo!!!! We know which people in Kenya love violence.I thought you are Kenyan too!!!!!! Yeah we know those who love violence, infact we remember the PEV and before even the Mathira massacre....you can google!!!! We also know of Bhagdad boys and president Museveni may have been right with his comments after the railway was uprooted by a certain people. Great you acknowledge the real violence......of murder and rape!!!! jana there was violence in certain quarters, guys are mum about it, it is like nothing happned. if it was 'others' bale and hate speach nayo! i whole thread would be 5 pages by now. it is called being castigated because of your heritage! Surprised no thread has come up after 24 hours.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/9/2010 Posts: 894 Location: Nairobi
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harrydre wrote:MaichBlack wrote:If you thought Kibaki can throw some serious words, you don't know anything! Mzee jomo Kenyatta could make him sound like a boy scout and alter boy all rolled into one. Listen to this Jomo speech after some people tried to throw some stones/aggs at him in Kisumu. I know the wazees have heard it but for some it will be the first time! A very angry Jomo Kenyatta Kenyatta origino was just special...did i hear some few ku** ma**s?? from a whole PORK? yenyewe Kenya has changed. heard the ku** ma**s too. its made my evening. Don't wait for the Last Judgment. It happens every day. ~Albert Camus, The Fall, 1956
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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holycow wrote:King G wrote:McReggae wrote:mawinder wrote:McReggae wrote:mawinder wrote:McReggae wrote:....kenyans love violence, even when there is no indication of any.....madharau nayo!!!! We know which people in Kenya love violence.I thought you are Kenyan too!!!!!! Yeah we know those who love violence, infact we remember the PEV and before even the Mathira massacre....you can google!!!! We also know of Bhagdad boys and president Museveni may have been right with his comments after the railway was uprooted by a certain people. Great you acknowledge the real violence......of murder and rape!!!! jana there was violence in certain quarters, guys are mum about it, it is like nothing happned. if it was 'others' bale and hate speach nayo! i whole thread would be 5 pages by now. it is called being castigated because of your heritage! Surprised no thread has come up after 24 hours. please educate me? what violence? i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 6/8/2010 Posts: 1,734
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Tommy wrote:harrydre wrote:MaichBlack wrote:If you thought Kibaki can throw some serious words, you don't know anything! Mzee jomo Kenyatta could make him sound like a boy scout and alter boy all rolled into one. Listen to this Jomo speech after some people tried to throw some stones/aggs at him in Kisumu. I know the wazees have heard it but for some it will be the first time! A very angry Jomo Kenyatta Kenyatta origino was just special...did i hear some few ku** ma**s?? from a whole PORK? yenyewe Kenya has changed. heard the ku** ma**s too. its made my evening. Eish and some psycophants clapped after that statement Life is an endless adventure
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