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Shackles of Doom
washiku
#31 Posted : Wednesday, April 17, 2013 4:01:12 PM
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McReggae wrote:
washiku wrote:
McReggae wrote:
High court lifts the ban on the play, Butere girls are thus allowed to proceed and present it in Mombasa!!!!!


You have been very consistent in following up on this play. Any interests or mere patriotism? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I am keen on so many other things that happen aound. Just imagine the amount of marketing the state has done for that play, everybody will want to watch it!!!

Each of us have freedom of expression, only the courts can determine if one has gone overboard!!!!


U r right. I actually wasnt aware of the festivals and by extension of the Shackles of doom until this saga came up....
washiku
#32 Posted : Wednesday, April 17, 2013 4:22:10 PM
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Now what happens when the BOG says NO, it wont be staged?

McReggae
#33 Posted : Wednesday, April 17, 2013 4:25:18 PM
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washiku wrote:
Now what happens when the BOG says NO, it wont be staged?



What to do, probably due to earlier threat and everything they had decided to let go and the HC ruling came in late!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
essyk
#34 Posted : Wednesday, April 17, 2013 8:56:32 PM
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'Oh yes,I can see them
The Macabres,the Macabres of life
Mother dear,Lukara,Chausiku,can you feel these monsters? These gruesome implications of life's reality and its pain?
We are victims brethren,victims of prostitution,illegal drugs,name them'.

The same Butere girls fate was sealed by those words and couldn't proceed to the districts during nyayos days.

somebody is just jealous after kushindwa zonals.smile



"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
McReggae
#35 Posted : Monday, April 22, 2013 10:37:33 AM
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That was fast!!!!

..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
Impunity
#36 Posted : Monday, April 22, 2013 10:51:28 AM
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McReggae wrote:
That was fast!!!!



Hitting the nail on the right head...hapo kwa hapo.
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Shotgun
#37 Posted : Monday, April 22, 2013 11:27:03 AM
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McReggae wrote:
That was fast!!!!




The Irony

Same people being 'criticized' by the book, instead of banning and burning the play's materials, they decide to 'burn' the play on CD and sell it to make that extra shilling.

Then tomorrow they will be accused of 'owning' the whole economy because of their entrepreneurship.

Hmmmm....

washiku
#38 Posted : Monday, April 22, 2013 11:29:28 AM
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McReggae wrote:
That was fast!!!!



Ogopa Kamaus.....they dont give a damn ati the play was against "them" as a tribe, all they wana know is how the opportunity and publicity will make them a few coins and add some ugali on their plates...Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Njung'e
#39 Posted : Monday, April 22, 2013 11:48:34 AM
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washiku wrote:

Ogopa Kamaus.....they dont give a damn ati the play was against "them" as a tribe, all they wana know is how the opportunity and publicity will make them a few coins and add some ugali on their plates...Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly



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#40 Posted : Monday, April 22, 2013 12:12:15 PM
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masukuma wrote:
McReggae wrote:
dunkang wrote:
The Butere Girls Play, Shackles of Doom, is therefore OKAY!

Why conspire to block it if 'members from those regions aren't given free cash or unga by the above mentioned leaders'.


Exactment....why block....even the NCIC audit showed the same dominace by a few tribes. why block the play???


the environment has already been poisoned.
I am asking myself - what is the motive of the play-write? A fact check by NCIC reveals that Kyuks indeed have an unfair tally (a variance of 4%) as reported in this report
http://198.38.90.109/~cohesion/images/downloads/ethnic%20diversity%20of%20the%20civil%20service.pdf However, we need to remember that the play will still be there even the reality changes. It could be published as a short story or a play for some African nation to read in future, a future where Kyuks may not be having a large number of public positions
if it is to tackle tribalism and nepotism (something that is not unique to kyuks - for reference check out the stats of the employees of the office of the prime minister) the play can be re-written so that it uses imagery and fictitious groups of people. Let him borrow a leaf from George Orwell who used a farm of animals to attack Communism and other related groupings and regimes. his writings have been timeless since they have attacked an ideology not a group of people. however if the ODM County Assembly Ward Rep.'s motive is to attack Nepotism and Tribalism in Kikuyu - he is spot on!


That document does not interpret the statistics correctly.

According to the table in page 6, Kikuyus are 17.7% of the population and they have 22.3% of civil service posts. Corresponding figures for others tribes are as follows:

Kalenjin 13.3% Vs 16.7%

Luhya 14.2% Vs 11.3%

Kamba 10.4% Vs 9.7%

Luo 10.8% Vs 9.0%

Kisii 5.9% Vs 6.8%

Meru 4.4% Vs 5.9%

Mijikenda 5.2% Vs 3.8%

Kenya Somali 6.4% Vs 2.7%

Embu 0.9% Vs 2.0%

Masai 2.2% Vs 1.5%

Taita 0.7% Vs 1.5%

Boran 0.4% Vs 1.2%

Turkana 2.6% Vs 1.0%

From these numbers, the document concludes that "The Kikuyu and the Kalenjin have a disproportionate share of civil service posts compared to their population."

While that is a factual statement, it portrays the erroneous impression that these two tribes have the largest disproportion of jobs compared to their population.

Nothing could be farther from the truth!

Looking at the figures again, it quickly emerges that while the Kikuyu and Kalenjin have exceeded their expected share of jobs by a factor of only 1.26 (DIVIDE the percent of jobs by the percent of population), the Boran have exceeded theirs by a factor of 3!

According to that data, it is the Boran who have the lion's share of jobs!

But I think the people who prepared the document were blinded by the fact that Kenya has only had Presidents from the Kikuyu and the Kalenjin tribes.
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