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Supreme Court full ruling:
freiks
#71 Posted : Wednesday, April 17, 2013 1:50:31 PM
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It is funny how the 5.3M want the 6.1M to believe that it would have been justice served if the 5.3M won, this is the real jurispundence then
Life is an endless adventure
maka
#72 Posted : Wednesday, April 17, 2013 2:06:51 PM
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Kausha wrote:
Certainly we are the laughing stock of the developing and developed world and heroes to the neanderthal states of the world. What Can I say you win some and lose some!! right?

But enyewe given an opportunity to dazzle the world and hand in a key contribution to the global jurisprudence for the development of mankind, we just had to be our usual mediocre selves and turn in a stinker! That SC judgement can only be used to assault democracy and vitiate free will of the people in neanderthal republics. If it ever finds itself in the sanctums of any leading law school, it will probably be as an illustration of deformed jurisprudence.

Reading through the entire judgement I couldn't help picking up abdi's arguments and thought processes verbatim including his sporadic scuffles with the queen's language. Was this coincidence? During Sharad's sessions there numerous allegations of judgements written by lawyers on behalf of judges.

Sincerely though, this judgement can best be described as a work of legal reverse engineering!!

Its called Supreme reasoning...
possunt quia posse videntur
Kausha
#73 Posted : Wednesday, April 17, 2013 2:27:43 PM
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@Freiks, It's never about the winner or losser, but having a credible process that throws up the winner who we then can get behind and push the country's agenda without having the shadows of moi era or 2007 at the back of our minds! that's all.

In the spirit of moving on....legal minds in here, kindly indulge in the paragraphs below extracted from the SC ruling. I am still in stitches. One can only produce such great works and oxymorons when ones mind is full of sleep or when you delegate to your Gichana ya Kazi and don't bother to review. That analogy of football is a BIG FAT lie, unless they meant Rugby Football which would still be wrong. Football is yet to use TV monitoring to pick errors missed by referees, while in Rugby that only happens in the try area and there are no linesmen in Rugby. Was this a futuristic analogy????

[232] Failure of technology is relied upon by the Petitioners, on the footing that it disrupted the transmission of election results, and so, these results ceased to be in keeping with the secure standards required by law. The Petitioners contend that section 39 of the Elections Act, 2011 as read with Regulation 82 of the Elections (General) Regulations, 2012 creates a mandatory obligation to provide for the electronic transmission of the results.



[233] We take judicial notice that, as with all technologies, so it is with electoral technology: it is rarely perfect, and those employing it must remain open to the coming of new and improved technologies. Analogy may be drawn with the traditional refereeing methods in football which, as their defects became apparent, were not altogether abandoned, but were complemented with television-monitoring, which enabled watchers to detect errors in the pitch which had occurred too fast for the referees and linesmen and lineswomen to notice.



[234] In the instant case, there is evidence that the EVID and RTS technologies were used in the electoral process at the beginning, but they later stalled and crashed. Different reasons explain this failure but, by the depositions of Dismus Ong’ondi, the failure mainly arose from the misunderstandings and squabbles among IEBC members during the procurement process – squabbles which occasioned the failure to assess the integrity of the technologies in good time. It is, indeed, likely that the acquisition process was marked by competing interests involving impropriety, or even criminality: and we recommend that this matter be entrusted to the relevant State agency, for further investigation and possible prosecution of suspects.



[235] But as regards the integrity of the election itself, what lawful course could IEBC have taken after the transmission technology failed? There was no option, in our opinion, but to revert to the manual electoral system, as was done.



[236] We note from the evidence that the said manual system, though it did serve as a vital fall-back position, has itself a major weakness which IEBC has a public duty to set right. The ultimate safeguard for the voter registration process, namely “the Green Book”, has data that is not backed-up, just in case of a fire, or other like calamity. We signal this as an urgent item of the agenda of the IEBC, and recommend appropriate redressive action.



[237] From case law, and from Kenya’s electoral history, it is apparent that electronic technology has not provided perfect solutions. Such technology has been inherently undependable, and its adoption and application has been only incremental, over time. It is not surprising that the applicable law has entrusted a discretion to IEBC, on the application of such technology as may be found appropriate. Since such technology has not yet achieved a level of reliability, it cannot as yet be considered a permanent or irreversible foundation for the conduct of the electoral process. This negates the Petitioner’s contention that, in the instant case, injustice, or illegality in the conduct of election would result, if IEBC did not consistently employ electronic technology. It follows that the Petitioner’s case, insofar as it attributes nullity to the Presidential election on grounds of failed technological devices, is not sustainable.
McReggae
#74 Posted : Wednesday, April 17, 2013 2:37:47 PM
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maka wrote:
McReggae wrote:
alma wrote:
This is my summary about the Judiciary and Jurispudence in Kenya

"The Saitoti crash was caused by bad weather,......etc"
And that will be the deputy chief Justice.d'oh!


Great summary you got there!!!!

she cut a great deal...all those who were doing the interviews were time wasting...


Reminds me of Robert Ouko's government coroner's reasoning. I think his name was Jason Kaviti. He said Ouko Killed himself by shooting himself in the head, then he lit a matchstick and burned himself.

........and these are the same people who sent Nancy Baraza home in a huff. Pharisees!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
TAZ
#75 Posted : Wednesday, April 17, 2013 2:42:03 PM
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masukuma wrote:
maka wrote:
we have officially become a laughing stock in matters jurisprudence...we were in the same league as S.A now we are being compared to Somalia,Chad,DRC...sad

who is comparing us to those guys?


Kwanza ati we were in the same league as S.A, was this before or after we got a new CJ....enyewe in Kenya kila mtu ni mjuaji.
maka
#76 Posted : Wednesday, April 17, 2013 2:44:28 PM
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TAZ wrote:
masukuma wrote:
maka wrote:
we have officially become a laughing stock in matters jurisprudence...we were in the same league as S.A now we are being compared to Somalia,Chad,DRC...sad

who is comparing us to those guys?


Kwanza ati we were in the same league as S.A, enyewe in Kenya kila mtu ni mjuaji.

Boss dont compare a tuk tuk to a prado you can never be me...
possunt quia posse videntur
TAZ
#77 Posted : Wednesday, April 17, 2013 2:52:47 PM
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maka wrote:
TAZ wrote:
masukuma wrote:
maka wrote:
we have officially become a laughing stock in matters jurisprudence...we were in the same league as S.A now we are being compared to Somalia,Chad,DRC...sad

who is comparing us to those guys?


Kwanza ati we were in the same league as S.A, enyewe in Kenya kila mtu ni mjuaji.

Boss dont compare a tuk tuk to a prado you can never be me...


Please don't stop on my account, carry on.
Njung'e
#78 Posted : Wednesday, April 17, 2013 2:53:04 PM
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TAZ wrote:
[quote=masukuma][quote=maka]
Kwanza ati we were in the same league as S.A, enyewe in Kenya kila mtu ni mjuaji.


There is still alot of bitterness from the losers as can be evidenced here.Unfortunately,everytime stark reality is thrust in their faces,they resort to "We moved on".Moved on to where?......That's self denial coz in reality,they only need to check where they are standing.Truth is,they are in the same spot or two steps backwards from where they were during the bony chest thumping era.xad!

Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
muganda
#79 Posted : Wednesday, April 17, 2013 3:02:11 PM
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Njung'e wrote:
There is still alot of bitterness from the losers as can be evidenced here.Unfortunately,everytime stark reality is thrust in their faces,they resort to "We moved on".Moved on to where?......That's self denial coz in reality,they only need to check where they are standing.Truth is,they are in the same spot or two steps backwards from where they were during the bony chest thumping era.xad!


Hehehe Chief @Njung'e, what will you do if @Njungelet marries a CORD supporter, will you empathise?
And you know for a fact how they match well among the youth, like Omeo and Julieta smile
maka
#80 Posted : Wednesday, April 17, 2013 3:08:51 PM
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“Justice based purely on
laws is about as accurate
as a portrait created out
of large low-resolution
color pixels.
If you stand back far enough it looks
good.
Come any closer and the glaring
approximations overtake all
semblance of the original.
Justice should be viewable under the
microscope, not from a telescope.
And for that it needs to be based not
on law but on truth.”
― Vera Nazarian, The Perpetual
Calendar of Inspiration
possunt quia posse videntur
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