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The unanimous decision
kingfisher
#31 Posted : Tuesday, April 02, 2013 4:13:19 PM
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alma wrote:
Enyewe

The ruling was on Saturday and no amount of psychophancy or redoing history will help.

Some of us just have to learn how to accept loss without the rest of the world in the murky waters of "i will never lose, until I win."

Maneno haya yaliisha. Lets talk about laptops now.


what's the age limit for a youngster to get this? min and max?
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ZZE123
#32 Posted : Tuesday, April 02, 2013 4:19:01 PM
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kingfisher wrote:
alma wrote:
Enyewe

The ruling was on Saturday and no amount of psychophancy or redoing history will help.

Some of us just have to learn how to accept loss without the rest of the world in the murky waters of "i will never lose, until I win."

Maneno haya yaliisha. Lets talk about laptops now.


what's the age limit for a youngster to get this? min and max?

And are the laptops for children in government schools only?
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freiks
#33 Posted : Tuesday, April 02, 2013 4:21:44 PM
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ZZE123 wrote:
kingfisher wrote:
alma wrote:
Enyewe

The ruling was on Saturday and no amount of psychophancy or redoing history will help.

Some of us just have to learn how to accept loss without the rest of the world in the murky waters of "i will never lose, until I win."

Maneno haya yaliisha. Lets talk about laptops now.


what's the age limit for a youngster to get this? min and max?

And are the laptops for children in government schools only?

If it happens i will hope that they will assume if you can afford private school you can also afford a laptop for your kid
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Angelica _ann
#34 Posted : Tuesday, April 02, 2013 4:32:35 PM
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freiks wrote:
ZZE123 wrote:
kingfisher wrote:
alma wrote:
Enyewe

The ruling was on Saturday and no amount of psychophancy or redoing history will help.

Some of us just have to learn how to accept loss without the rest of the world in the murky waters of "i will never lose, until I win."

Maneno haya yaliisha. Lets talk about laptops now.


what's the age limit for a youngster to get this? min and max?

And are the laptops for children in government schools only?

If it happens i will hope that they will assume if you can afford private school you can also afford a laptop for your kid


the manifesto says 'joining class 1'. no differentiation in terms of public or private schools and no mention of age, yeepiiiiiii!
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Ms Mkenya
#35 Posted : Tuesday, April 02, 2013 4:33:56 PM
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IMHO CORD did not prove their case. First, they took their time to file the petition, filing on the last day. Then realized they had additional info they needed to submit. The petition clearly was not well done, the introduction of the 'new' documents outside the time limits was also not well thought out.

Secondly, they teamed up with Africog, clearly an agenda pushed by the west (see their donors here http://www.africog.org/c.../funders-and-financials)to try make their case. Again their case was directed at the IEBC and the funding did not speak of Kenya's sovereignty. Sadly, they did not get details like who was on the special register..it worked against them badly.

The content of the petition seemed to have been directed at IEBC & the process yet it listed the President Elect, DP elect as respondents.

Also, with the case filed, the petitioner kept giving interesting remarks which the media caught on camera (like the famous 5.7M Vs 4.5M votes statement)

Let us not sensationalize the issue. Evidence ilikuwa shida. I wanted to see the evidence too but by the time Oraro gave his submission, i could tell even he wasn't confident of the case, his body language spoke volumes.

If i was a judge sitting in the Supreme Court, i would not have found it hard to come to that decision.

For some people however, the details matter not because to them the only 'correct' decision would have been a run off or a re-election.

....above all, to stand.
Obi 1 Kanobi
#36 Posted : Tuesday, April 02, 2013 4:41:42 PM
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I would have been surprised if any judge voted for the petition.

Oraro (the good lawyer he is) did a good job of making a fist out of dust, and cast doubt on a matter that originally lacked substance.

In short, I don't think the Cord case had any merit.

Any way, election kwisha, Cord lost fairly, its not the end of the world. I hope they come up with a better plan in 2017. Tutakuwa nyuma yao regardless of how UHURUTO perform.
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innairobi
#37 Posted : Tuesday, April 02, 2013 4:45:39 PM
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Considering what has transpired since the judgment i.e. grudging acceptance, conspiracy theories, skirmishes, threats of exploring alternative solutions etc, we should be kissing the SCOK's feet for delivering a unanimous judgment. Imagine the mapambano chorus combined with mass action we would be facing now if the judges announced a 3-3 decision.
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washiku
#38 Posted : Tuesday, April 02, 2013 5:08:30 PM
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innairobi wrote:
Considering what has transpired since the judgment i.e. grudging acceptance, conspiracy theories, skirmishes, threats of exploring alternative solutions etc, we should be kissing the SCOK's feet for delivering a unanimous judgment. Imagine the mapambano chorus combined with mass action we would be facing now if the judges announced a 3-3 decision.


I agree. I always wished for a uniform decision because I thought that when its unanimous, we shall not look at the judges through the tribal eyes. Further, I am worried that some are saying the decision was not fair yet they have not listened carefully to the explanation that IEBC gave on all the issues that were raised. Furthermore, Judges had access to much more info than we did, written submissions and above all their decision was not to be based on the feelings of the petitioners or the defenders but on the actual evidence they got at their disposal. Before concluding the decision was unfair, I would be patient enough to wait for the written final reasoning that the judges used, since then I would see the facts from both sides. Another reason that makes me hesitant in dismissing the "unanimous decision" is that Mwalimu Mati's Mar's group did their own audit and concluded that the election, despite that it was not perfect(Is there any election that is 100% perfect), was not rigged. I have always known Mars Group to lean more towards CORD than Jubilee. Had they found "massive irregularities" as CORD had claimed, you can be sure they could have shouted all over the world for everyone to hear. Instead, they upheld what IEBC had announced. See their tweet below. I refuse to believe it can only be fair if it is ruled one way. I refuse to believe that we should now fail to believe in the court coz it ruled in a certain way. I refuse to believe that Willy Mutanga can be compromised to rule in a certain way...he has turned down many attractive offers before, If an offer that would make him compromise on such an important issue comes up, I believe he would still turn it down! My humble submission

washiku
#39 Posted : Tuesday, April 02, 2013 5:12:11 PM
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One more here for those who did not see it:

Why do I tend to take their word for truth? Because their conclusion was based on an independent audit. You can view it here

ZZE123
#40 Posted : Tuesday, April 02, 2013 5:22:41 PM
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
I would have been surprised if any judge voted for the petition.

Oraro (the good lawyer he is) did a good job of making a fist out of dust, and cast doubt on a matter that originally lacked substance.

In short, I don't think the Cord case had any merit.

Any way, election kwisha, Cord lost fairly, its not the end of the world. I hope they come up with a better plan in 2017. Tutakuwa nyuma yao regardless of how UHURUTO perform.

@Obi – you deserve a standing ovation – I remember you were extremely CODED during the campaign period and now this from you.Applause Applause Applause Applause
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