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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/17/2010 Posts: 1,163 Location: Sudan
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I thought this thread was about WSR. How did it come to be Rao's. Ama ni kama cold war era when everything Americans said were anti Soviets and vice versa. "Peace is our profession, War is our business" ...Unknown
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/19/2011 Posts: 1,694
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AlphDoti wrote:nakujua wrote:Kratos wrote:AlphDoti wrote:mwenza wrote:guru267 wrote:Why do I suspect a 20 year Jubilee Government with Uhuru holding for 10years and handing over to Ruto for another 10years?? 10yrs for KAmwana...yeeeees 10yrs for Ruto............Naaaaah Reason....kikuyu vote is not transferable I agree with mwenza  These are the facts- 1992 they voted their own - 1997 they voted their own - 2002 they voted their own in support of all tribes i.e. Kales and Luos - 2007 they voted their own, they refused to return favour to Luos. Luos went with Kales. - 2013 they voted their own, they refused to return favour to Luos. Kales disowned the Luos. Now this is what we have:- Kyuks vote only their own - Luos can never trust Kyuk (remember what happened in 2007 and now 2013?) - Luos can never vote Kales (remember what just happened in 2013?) Fast forward to 2022?- Ruto will expect Kyuks to return favour - But you know what? Kyuks always vote their own and PK will be mtu-wa-nyumba What will happen in 2022?- Kyuks will be on their own - Kales cannot go back to Luos - Kyuks cannot go back to Luos So someone from minority tribe will stand- either Somali or Maasai (most likely a Somali) - Kales will support this person - Luos having no other kingpin will support this person - The rest of the country knowing how Kyuks behave will retaliate and support this person 41 against 1 will happen!!! Check mate!!! Very shallow thinking if i may say. It is very easy to pin point one tribe and express such biased views. It would be better for you to come up with a list of presidential candidates for all those years who have offered themselves and analyse each of the 42 tribes and the pattern of voting and you will realise all tribes vote tribally and if they have no candidate choose a proxy. Anyway, let me not stop you from your diatribe, carry on. agree, a very narrow minded way of looking at it - sensationalism at its best. It's my opinion remember? If it pains you, ask yourself why. Pick where you think I have lied. For your information: -> UHURUTO was two tribes (22% Kyuks + 21.x% Kales = 43%) -> Most of the tribes (11% luo + 7.2% Kamba + 25% other tribes = 44%) -> Others 13%  what you're experiencing is called post traumatic stress @ alphadoti. With that kind of "opinion" i can confidently say politics is not your forte. Tafuta akina burgler na john kwa religious threads no need in stressing yourself in matters you cannot play a "mutahi ngunyi" at.
“People will believe a big lie sooner than a little one, and if you repeat it frequently enough, people will sooner or later believe it.” ― Walter C. Langer
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/2/2011 Posts: 4,824 Location: -1.2107, 36.8831
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@AlphDoti, who won in these counties and what were the percentages? 1. Garissa (Somalis) 2. Wajir (Somalis) 3. Mandera (Somalis) 4a. Marsabit-Moyale (Boranas) 4b. Marsabit-North Horr (Gabbras) 4c. Marsabit-Laisamis (Rendiles) 5. Isiolo (Borana, Somali, Turkana, Samburus) 6. Meru (Merus) 7. Tharaka Nithi (Tharakas, Merus) 8. Embu (Embus, Mbeeres) 9. Kajiado (Maasais, kikuyus) 10. Narok (Maasais) 11. Migori-Kuria (Kurias) 12. Turkana-Loima (Turkanas) Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Kratos wrote:AlphDoti wrote:nakujua wrote:Kratos wrote:AlphDoti wrote:mwenza wrote:guru267 wrote:Why do I suspect a 20 year Jubilee Government with Uhuru holding for 10years and handing over to Ruto for another 10years?? 10yrs for KAmwana...yeeeees 10yrs for Ruto............Naaaaah Reason....kikuyu vote is not transferable I agree with mwenza These are the facts- 1992 they voted their own - 1997 they voted their own - 2002 they voted their own in support of all tribes i.e. Kales and Luos - 2007 they voted their own, they refused to return favour to Luos. Luos went with Kales. - 2013 they voted their own, they refused to return favour to Luos. Kales disowned the Luos. Now this is what we have:- Kyuks vote only their own - Luos can never trust Kyuk (remember what happened in 2007 and now 2013?) - Luos can never vote Kales (remember what just happened in 2013?) Fast forward to 2022?- Ruto will expect Kyuks to return favour - But you know what? Kyuks always vote their own and PK will be mtu-wa-nyumba What will happen in 2022?- Kyuks will be on their own - Kales cannot go back to Luos - Kyuks cannot go back to Luos So someone from minority tribe will stand- either Somali or Maasai (most likely a Somali) - Kales will support this person - Luos having no other kingpin will support this person - The rest of the country knowing how Kyuks behave will retaliate and support this person 41 against 1 will happen!!! Check mate!!! Very shallow thinking if i may say. It is very easy to pin point one tribe and express such biased views. It would be better for you to come up with a list of presidential candidates for all those years who have offered themselves and analyse each of the 42 tribes and the pattern of voting and you will realise all tribes vote tribally and if they have no candidate choose a proxy. Anyway, let me not stop you from your diatribe, carry on. agree, a very narrow minded way of looking at it - sensationalism at its best. It's my opinion remember? If it pains you, ask yourself why. Pick where you think I have lied. For your information: -> UHURUTO was two tribes (22% Kyuks + 21.x% Kales = 43%) -> Most of the tribes (11% luo + 7.2% Kamba + 25% other tribes = 44%) -> Others 13% what you're experiencing is called post traumatic stress @ alphadoti. With that kind of "opinion" i can confidently say politics is not your forte. Tafuta akina burgler na john kwa religious threads no need in stressing yourself in matters you cannot play a "mutahi ngunyi" at. I'm quoting the numbers. Again I ask you to point where I'm wrong... You're better political analysts, which would you supposed to be a better proposition? Let's stick with WR...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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dunkang wrote:@AlphDoti, who won in these counties and what were the percentages?
1. Garissa (Somalis)
2. Wajir (Somalis)
3. Mandera (Somalis)
4a. Marsabit-Moyale (Boranas)
4b. Marsabit-North Horr (Gabbras)
4c. Marsabit-Laisamis (Rendiles)
5. Isiolo (Borana, Somali, Turkana, Samburus)
6. Meru (Merus)
7. Tharaka Nithi (Tharakas, Merus)
8. Embu (Embus, Mbeeres)
9. Kajiado (Maasais, kikuyus)
10. Narok (Maasais)
11. Migori-Kuria (Kurias)
12. Turkana-Loima (Turkanas) Most of those regions are insignificant come the time when WR says he's standing and wat wa Nyumba rallies behind PK.
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 7/24/2012 Posts: 37
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AlphDoti wrote:nakujua wrote:Kratos wrote:AlphDoti wrote:mwenza wrote:guru267 wrote:Why do I suspect a 20 year Jubilee Government with Uhuru holding for 10years and handing over to Ruto for another 10years?? 10yrs for KAmwana...yeeeees 10yrs for Ruto............Naaaaah Reason....kikuyu vote is not transferable I agree with mwenza These are the facts- 1992 they voted their own - 1997 they voted their own - 2002 they voted their own in support of all tribes i.e. Kales and Luos - 2007 they voted their own, they refused to return favour to Luos. Luos went with Kales. - 2013 they voted their own, they refused to return favour to Luos. Kales disowned the Luos. Now this is what we have:- Kyuks vote only their own - Luos can never trust Kyuk (remember what happened in 2007 and now 2013?) - Luos can never vote Kales (remember what just happened in 2013?) Fast forward to 2022?- Ruto will expect Kyuks to return favour - But you know what? Kyuks always vote their own and PK will be mtu-wa-nyumba What will happen in 2022?- Kyuks will be on their own - Kales cannot go back to Luos - Kyuks cannot go back to Luos So someone from minority tribe will stand- either Somali or Maasai (most likely a Somali) - Kales will support this person - Luos having no other kingpin will support this person - The rest of the country knowing how Kyuks behave will retaliate and support this person 41 against 1 will happen!!! Check mate!!! Very shallow thinking if i may say. It is very easy to pin point one tribe and express such biased views. It would be better for you to come up with a list of presidential candidates for all those years who have offered themselves and analyse each of the 42 tribes and the pattern of voting and you will realise all tribes vote tribally and if they have no candidate choose a proxy. Anyway, let me not stop you from your diatribe, carry on. agree, a very narrow minded way of looking at it - sensationalism at its best. It's my opinion remember? If it pains you, ask yourself why. Pick where you think I have lied. For your information: -> UHURUTO was two tribes (22% Kyuks + 21.x% Kales = 43%) -> Most of the tribes (11% luo + 7.2% Kamba + 25% other tribes = 44%) -> Others 13% add Meru's, Embus, Somali's, Half Turkanas and Half Masaai's to UHURUTO and you have the 53% Kuna kuchapwo, kuchapana na kujifichio
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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oAR time is up. Even great fighters like shikuku and Matiba retired at some point. Time for the man to take a rest.. i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/2/2009 Posts: 2,458 Location: Nairobi
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Um Sayala wrote:I thought this thread was about WSR. How did it come to be Rao's.
Ama ni kama cold war era when everything Americans said were anti Soviets and vice versa. The guys acceptance had an anticlimax effect on his opposers.. utamu wamatusi ukaisha.. so guys are trying to dig him up and serve him their anger
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/9/2009 Posts: 2,003
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AlphDoti wrote:dunkang wrote:@AlphDoti, who won in these counties and what were the percentages?
1. Garissa (Somalis)
2. Wajir (Somalis)
3. Mandera (Somalis)
4a. Marsabit-Moyale (Boranas)
4b. Marsabit-North Horr (Gabbras)
4c. Marsabit-Laisamis (Rendiles)
5. Isiolo (Borana, Somali, Turkana, Samburus)
6. Meru (Merus)
7. Tharaka Nithi (Tharakas, Merus)
8. Embu (Embus, Mbeeres)
9. Kajiado (Maasais, kikuyus)
10. Narok (Maasais)
11. Migori-Kuria (Kurias)
12. Turkana-Loima (Turkanas) Most of those regions are insignificant come the time when WR says he's standing and wat wa Nyumba rallies behind PK. Do you know what you are talking about? Ati Upper Eastern is insignificant? Think again!
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Rank: Chief Joined: 8/24/2009 Posts: 5,909 Location: Nairobi
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poundfoolish wrote:Um Sayala wrote:I thought this thread was about WSR. How did it come to be Rao's.
Ama ni kama cold war era when everything Americans said were anti Soviets and vice versa. The guys acceptance had an anticlimax effect on his opposers.. utamu wamatusi ukaisha.. so guys are trying to dig him up and serve him their anger WORD! I hope WSR plays his cards right to make UK have it for only 5 years...but he should always remember where NSIS allegiance lies!
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