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washiku
#21 Posted : Sunday, March 31, 2013 7:19:07 PM
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dunkang wrote:
guru267 wrote:
dunkang wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Why do I suspect a 20 year Jubilee Government with Uhuru holding for 10years and handing over to Ruto for another 10years??


But they will have to work for it!

I swear that come Tuesday 14th August 2018, God willing, i willl vote PERFORMANCE, since the guy might not be contesting!


Don't you mean Monday 14th August 2017... Your date will give Uhuru a longer term than 5years in the constitution!

The katiba says 'on the 2nd tuesday of August after 5 years'. So, 2013+5 is 2018.


This years election was deemed to have happened in 2012. Remember last year's high court ruling? But I wont be surprised to see some guys going to court to seek "interpretation" of this issue.
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newfarer
#22 Posted : Sunday, March 31, 2013 7:21:23 PM
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guru267 wrote:
Why do I suspect a 20 year Jubilee Government with Uhuru holding for 10years and handing over to Ruto for another 10years??

with the discovery of tyrrany of numbers it will be hard to beat these two.but it will depend on how uk handles wr. a small misstep, uk bid for reelection is done.
just hope there won't be a scandal in the next 365 days.
Im confident that uk is for the good of this country.
punda amecheka
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mwenza
#23 Posted : Sunday, March 31, 2013 8:27:47 PM
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Impunity wrote:
dunkang wrote:
guru267 wrote:
dunkang wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Why do I suspect a 20 year Jubilee Government with Uhuru holding for 10years and handing over to Ruto for another 10years??


But they will have to work for it!

I swear that come Tuesday 14th August 2018, God willing, i willl vote PERFORMANCE, since the guy might not be contesting!


Don't you mean Monday 14th August 2017... Your date will give Uhuru a longer term than 5years in the constitution!

The katiba says 'on the 2nd tuesday of August after 5 years'. So, 2013+5 is 2018.


This was a transition period, you can petition the Supreme Court for clarification.
I bet the judgement will be read in 10 seconds


The timing shall be critical....... You only need to ensure that the verdict is delivered on a day when Man U don't have a match...
IF YOU EXPECT ME TO POST ANYTHING POSITIVE ABOUT ASENO, YOU MAY AS WELL SIT ON A PIN
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mwenza
#24 Posted : Sunday, March 31, 2013 8:29:31 PM
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newfarer wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Why do I suspect a 20 year Jubilee Government with Uhuru holding for 10years and handing over to Ruto for another 10years??

with the discovery of tyrrany of numbers it will be hard to beat these two.but it will depend on how uk handles wr. a small misstep, uk bid for reelection is done.
just hope there won't be a scandal in the next 365 days.
Im confident that uk is for the good of this country.


.....what about his deputy?
IF YOU EXPECT ME TO POST ANYTHING POSITIVE ABOUT ASENO, YOU MAY AS WELL SIT ON A PIN
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newfarer
#25 Posted : Sunday, March 31, 2013 8:45:36 PM
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mwenza wrote:
newfarer wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Why do I suspect a 20 year Jubilee Government with Uhuru holding for 10years and handing over to Ruto for another 10years??

with the discovery of tyrrany of numbers it will be hard to beat these two.but it will depend on how uk handles wr. a small misstep, uk bid for reelection is done.
just hope there won't be a scandal in the next 365 days.
Im confident that uk is for the good of this country.


.....what about his deputy?

know he'll try to prove sceptics wrong but I'm still waiting to know to outcome of the idp's100 acres court case.
punda amecheka
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essyk
#26 Posted : Sunday, March 31, 2013 9:03:54 PM
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Oh my goodness!
Wazuans discussing 2018 elections already! from date of polls to verdict!!
got no words.





"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
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ecstacy
#27 Posted : Sunday, March 31, 2013 9:32:09 PM
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kollabo wrote:
sparkly wrote:
The student stepped in to fill the teacher's shoes ... Moi/Ruto. Who will step in to fill Agwambo's shoes?

Obviously RAO's star is in twilight and the likes of Orengo are spent forces. Ronny?


Did you notice at the press conference the only person who seemed to put on a sad face while smiling in his heart was..Moses Wetangula?


Using body language, OAR knew he lost it outrightly. Kalonzo on the other hand seemed angry at his own fate, hakuna kati kati roundi hii Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
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limanika
#28 Posted : Sunday, March 31, 2013 10:13:16 PM
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The tag 'jaramogi reigned but never ruled' is just too bitter for raila to also take willingly and thus am sure he will be back in the ring after 5 years. But he will have to work 5times harder . I hope he means it when he says he wishes uhuruto well. I don't think so but Kenya is greater than one man
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AlphDoti
#29 Posted : Sunday, March 31, 2013 10:17:09 PM
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mwenza wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Why do I suspect a 20 year Jubilee Government with Uhuru holding for 10years and handing over to Ruto for another 10years??

10yrs for KAmwana...yeeeees
10yrs for Ruto............Naaaaah

Reason....kikuyu vote is not transferable

I agree with mwenza smile smile

These are the facts
- 1992 they voted their own
- 1997 they voted their own
- 2002 they voted their own in support of all tribes i.e. Kales and Luos
- 2007 they voted their own, they refused to return favour to Luos. Luos went with Kales.
- 2013 they voted their own, they refused to return favour to Luos. Kales disowned the Luos.

Now this is what we have:
- Kyuks vote only their own
- Luos can never trust Kyuk (remember what happened in 2007 and now 2013?)
- Luos can never vote Kales (remember what just happened in 2013?)

Fast forward to 2022?
- Ruto will expect Kyuks to return favour
- But you know what? Kyuks always vote their own and PK will be mtu-wa-nyumba

What will happen in 2022?
- Kyuks will be on their own
- Kales cannot go back to Luos
- Kyuks cannot go back to Luos

So someone from minority tribe will stand
- either Somali or Maasai (most likely a Somali)
- Kales will support this person
- Luos having no other kingpin will support this person
- The rest of the country knowing how Kyuks behave will retaliate and support this person

41 against 1 will happen!!!

Check mate!!!
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josiah33
#30 Posted : Sunday, March 31, 2013 10:21:28 PM
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AlphDoti wrote:
mwenza wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Why do I suspect a 20 year Jubilee Government with Uhuru holding for 10years and handing over to Ruto for another 10years??

10yrs for KAmwana...yeeeees
10yrs for Ruto............Naaaaah

Reason....kikuyu vote is not transferable

I agree with mwenza smile smile

These are the facts
- 1992 they voted their own
- 1997 they voted their own
- 2002 they voted their own in support of all tribes i.e. Kales and Luos
- 2007 they voted their own, they refused to return favour to Luos. Luos went with Kales.
- 2013 they voted their own, they refused to return favour to Luos. Kales disowned the Luos.

Now this is what we have:
- Kyuks vote only their own
- Luos can never trust Kyuk (remember what happened in 2007 and now 2013?)
- Luos can never vote Kales (remember what just happened in 2013?)

Fast forward to 2022?
- Ruto will expect Kyuks to return favour
- But you know what? Kyuks always vote their own and PK will be mtu-wa-nyumba

What will happen in 2022?
- Kyuks will be on their own
- Kales cannot go back to Luos
- Kyuks cannot go back to Luos

So someone from minority tribe will stand
- either Somali or Maasai (most likely a Somali)
- Kales will support this person
- Luos having no other kingpin will support this person
- The rest of the country knowing how Kyuks behave will retaliate and support this person

41 against 1 will happen!!!

Check mate!!!

Hehehehe! Crystal Ball?????
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