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Kenya Airways...why ignore..
itz
#141 Posted : Tuesday, February 21, 2012 4:26:27 PM
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KQ today at 17.05.heading south
StatMeister
#142 Posted : Tuesday, February 21, 2012 8:16:22 PM
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Kenya Hairways - just what you need to make your hair stand on end
A bad day fishing is better than a good day at work
ProverB
#143 Posted : Tuesday, April 03, 2012 2:42:27 PM
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BUYER BEWARE:

All financial data on KQ that is in print in newspapers and stocks websites have factored only 461,615,483 KQ Shares thus historical Eps of Kshs 7.65, Trailing p/e of 1.83 and Div of Kshs 1.50

You need to factor in new shares to have proper defined history..

Thus, on 1,94Billion Shares.. Historical Eps is Kshs1.82,Div of Kshs 0.35 and at a share price of 14.00..this translates to a trailing p/e of 7.69 and not 1.83 as reported in press and on Wazua's stock profiler.. http://www.wazua.co.ke/i...stor/stockssummary.aspx

Going forward, profit warning projected fall of 25% on earnings thus EPS expected for 2011-12 is Kshs1.36 and thus at price of 14.00, p/e shoots up to 10.29

It is always advisable to buy a stock whose year-on-year earnings growth is about twice the p/e ...the only justification of buying KQ is that it grows it's earnings for next year by AT LEAST 20.6%... which is unlikely.

The projected earnings growth they expect is about 75%.. Hahahahahahahahahah! ..nice one..especially considering the fact that the reasons for profit warnings are not controllable by KQ and there's no probability of mitigating them should they persist in the new year..add on alshabaab, elections and all other crap kenya is known for..

the only price i'd consider is therefore..based on expected full year earnings of 2011-12, plus a dividend of at least Kshs0.35..is at most..9.50.

I doubt the dividend will happen though.

Growth in passenger & cargo numbers does not mean much unless accompanied by increasing profit margins per passenger and per unit of cargo..

diminishing operating margins imply KQ is spending more to increase passenger and cargo numbers than it is making for shareholders' troubles..

PS:
About 22.86% of KQ is Owned by individuals..the rest is owned by KLM, Gvt and Institutional investors.. This implies over 400 Million shares will be held by individual shareholders...hence over supply for short term trading...even at prices of sub 10.bob..
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mlennyma
#144 Posted : Tuesday, April 03, 2012 2:46:14 PM
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@proverb save wanjiku this time,she has been screwed many times.
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
QW25091985
#145 Posted : Tuesday, April 03, 2012 3:53:51 PM
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i'll just buy this thing coz the index is looking to be in an up move . so guys will be bullish. its just a matter of time
obiero
#146 Posted : Sunday, March 17, 2013 9:55:08 AM
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FYR to be released on 14.06.2013 should settle/unsettle all nerves
COOP, IMH, KQ, MTNU
hisah
#147 Posted : Sunday, March 17, 2013 11:52:53 AM
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obiero wrote:
FYR to be released on 14.06.2013 should settle/unsettle all nerves

Should rattle all nerves is more like it unless creative accounting is hired at the finance department. Was the laid off staff issue sorted?
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
mwekez@ji
#148 Posted : Sunday, March 17, 2013 12:11:46 PM
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hisah wrote:
obiero wrote:
FYR to be released on 14.06.2013 should settle/unsettle all nerves

Should rattle all nerves is more like it unless creative accounting is hired at the finance department. Was the laid off staff issue sorted?


The laid off workers were reinstated and wage bill hurdle remains as was ... @Obiero, whats your FYR expectations?
Gadaffi
#149 Posted : Sunday, March 17, 2013 12:59:10 PM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
hisah wrote:
obiero wrote:
FYR to be released on 14.06.2013 should settle/unsettle all nerves

Should rattle all nerves is more like it unless creative accounting is hired at the finance department. Was the laid off staff issue sorted?


The laid off workers were reinstated and wage bill hurdle remains as was ... @Obiero, whats your FYR expectations?

the last comm i saw frm KQ was that the case was still in court pending determination. r u saying KQ settled n reinstated workers?
Either way, if this issue is nt addressed, th share performance will remain depressed altho significantly improved financial results may overshadow this
obiero
#150 Posted : Sunday, March 17, 2013 1:22:53 PM
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Gadaffi wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
hisah wrote:
obiero wrote:
FYR to be released on 14.06.2013 should settle/unsettle all nerves

Should rattle all nerves is more like it unless creative accounting is hired at the finance department. Was the laid off staff issue sorted?


The laid off workers were reinstated and wage bill hurdle remains as was ... @Obiero, whats your FYR expectations?

the last comm i saw frm KQ was that the case was still in court pending determination. r u saying KQ settled n reinstated workers?
Either way, if this issue is nt addressed, th share performance will remain depressed altho significantly improved financial results may overshadow this

@hisah. the latest update i saw was www.nation.co.ke/Feature...12/-/egyf4p/-/index.html
@mwekeza@ji. yet to visit my connected executives at the Exchange Bar for close-to-exact figures, but my own projections point to a 'respectable' net loss not exceeding KES 450M..
COOP, IMH, KQ, MTNU
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