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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/17/2010 Posts: 1,163 Location: Sudan
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Im tempted to think differently. Most of you want Raila to drop the court case not because of anything else but coz YOU are scared of the outcome. There is fear that IF the court rules on his favour, it might not be so good for you. I am encauraing the PM to go to court, not bcoz I am his supporter, but coz of one thing. LET THE RULE OF LAW BE ENTRENCHED IN THIS COUNTRY If you are agrieved and you dont agree with me on something, the best is to go to a neutral body for solution. So I want him to go to court, whatever it decides, i will respect it. And hope he will too "Peace is our profession, War is our business" ...Unknown
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Um Sayala wrote:Im tempted to think differently. Most of you want Raila to drop the court case not because of anything else but coz YOU are scared of the outcome.
There is fear that IF the court rules on his favour, it might not be so good for you.
I am encauraing the PM to go to court, not bcoz I am his supporter, but coz of one thing.
LET THE RULE OF LAW BE ENTRENCHED IN THIS COUNTRY
If you are agrieved and you dont agree with me on something, the best is to go to a neutral body for solution.
So I want him to go to court, whatever it decides, i will respect it. And hope he will too ...they dont want to listen ti this but I most def agree its his constitutional right let people allow him to exercise it,if he looses well and good if he wins good for him... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2008 Posts: 2,723
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Um Sayala wrote:Im tempted to think differently. Most of you want Raila to drop the court case not because of anything else but coz YOU are scared of the outcome.
There is fear that IF the court rules on his favour, it might not be so good for you.
I am encauraing the PM to go to court, not bcoz I am his supporter, but coz of one thing.
LET THE RULE OF LAW BE ENTRENCHED IN THIS COUNTRY
If you are agrieved and you dont agree with me on something, the best is to go to a neutral body for solution.
So I want him to go to court, whatever it decides, i will respect it. And hope he will too The issue here is what are the possible outcomes of the court case? What would Raila consider a favourable outcome and where would that lead him? Let us assume that the court agrees that there were irregularities with the tallying and orders a recount. It is then found that Raila had 200,000 more votes than were reported and Uhuru had 200,000 less which brings the final figures to 49.2*% Uhuru to Railas 45.5*%. Would the courts then order a runoff or would they then nullify the whole process and start afresh? Assuming they order a runoff does Raila believe he can win it? If they order a new election (assuming the country can afford it) does Raila believe he can win it? I cannot see any favourable outcome for Raila and that is why I think he will drop it. Not because he does not feel cheated but because as things stand he cannot make his situation better by going to court whatever the merits of his case may be.
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/4/2011 Posts: 116
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Kusadikika wrote:[quote=Um Sayala]Im tempted to think differently. Most of you want Raila to drop the court case not because of anything else but coz YOU are scared of the outcome.
There is fear that IF the court rules on his favour, it might not be so good for you.
I am encauraing the PM to go to court, not bcoz I am his supporter, but coz of one thing.
LET THE RULE OF LAW BE ENTRENCHED IN THIS COUNTRY
If you are agrieved and you dont agree with me on something, the best is to go to a neutral body for solution.
So I want him to go to court, whatever it decides, i will respect it. And hope he will too The issue here is what are the possible outcomes of the court case? What would Raila consider a favourable outcome and where would that lead him? Let us assume that the court agrees that there were irregularities with the tallying and orders a recount. It is then found that Raila had 200,000 more votes than were reported and Uhuru had 200,000 less which brings the final figures to 49.2*% Uhuru to Railas 45.5*%. Would the courts then order a runoff or would they then nullify the whole process and start afresh? Assuming they order a runoff does Raila believe he can win it? If they order a new election (assuming the country can afford it) does Raila believe he can win it? I cannot see any favourable outcome for Raila and that is why I think he will drop it. Not because he does not feel cheated but because as things stand he cannot make his situation better by going to court whatever the merits of his case may be.[/quote very well put what he wants is another chance "Children today are tyrants. They contradict their parents, gobble their food, and tyrannize their teachers."
•Socrates (470?-399 BC)
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/17/2010 Posts: 1,163 Location: Sudan
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Kusadikika wrote:Um Sayala wrote:Im tempted to think differently. Most of you want Raila to drop the court case not because of anything else but coz YOU are scared of the outcome.
There is fear that IF the court rules on his favour, it might not be so good for you.
I am encauraing the PM to go to court, not bcoz I am his supporter, but coz of one thing.
LET THE RULE OF LAW BE ENTRENCHED IN THIS COUNTRY
If you are agrieved and you dont agree with me on something, the best is to go to a neutral body for solution.
So I want him to go to court, whatever it decides, i will respect it. And hope he will too The issue here is what are the possible outcomes of the court case? What would Raila consider a favourable outcome and where would that lead him? Let us assume that the court agrees that there were irregularities with the tallying and orders a recount. It is then found that Raila had 200,000 more votes than were reported and Uhuru had 200,000 less which brings the final figures to 49.2*% Uhuru to Railas 45.5*%. Would the courts then order a runoff or would they then nullify the whole process and start afresh? Assuming they order a runoff does Raila believe he can win it? If they order a new election (assuming the country can afford it) does Raila believe he can win it? I cannot see any favourable outcome for Raila and that is why I think he will drop it. Not because he does not feel cheated but because as things stand he cannot make his situation better by going to court whatever the merits of his case may be. Now tell me, would you be contented and happy as a voter to know that your president elect was elected fraudulently, even by 10 votes(let alone the 200k u are giving). That is the more reason why he should go to court. And BTW do you think Dda,Karua,PK and Key ya pee believed they'd win this election?,No but they still went into it.So let Raila go ahead whether he believes he will win or not. For the law to take its cause "Peace is our profession, War is our business" ...Unknown
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Kusadikika wrote:Um Sayala wrote:Im tempted to think differently. Most of you want Raila to drop the court case not because of anything else but coz YOU are scared of the outcome.
There is fear that IF the court rules on his favour, it might not be so good for you.
I am encauraing the PM to go to court, not bcoz I am his supporter, but coz of one thing.
LET THE RULE OF LAW BE ENTRENCHED IN THIS COUNTRY
If you are agrieved and you dont agree with me on something, the best is to go to a neutral body for solution.
So I want him to go to court, whatever it decides, i will respect it. And hope he will too The issue here is what are the possible outcomes of the court case? What would Raila consider a favourable outcome and where would that lead him? Let us assume that the court agrees that there were irregularities with the tallying and orders a recount. It is then found that Raila had 200,000 more votes than were reported and Uhuru had 200,000 less which brings the final figures to 49.2*% Uhuru to Railas 45.5*%. Would the courts then order a runoff or would they then nullify the whole process and start afresh? Assuming they order a runoff does Raila believe he can win it? If they order a new election (assuming the country can afford it) does Raila believe he can win it? I cannot see any favourable outcome for Raila and that is why I think he will drop it. Not because he does not feel cheated but because as things stand he cannot make his situation better by going to court whatever the merits of his case may be. this will just encourage cheating in the future...so if i am aggrieved just for convinience I should forget going to court? possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Kusadikika wrote:Um Sayala wrote:Im tempted to think differently. Most of you want Raila to drop the court case not because of anything else but coz YOU are scared of the outcome.
There is fear that IF the court rules on his favour, it might not be so good for you.
I am encauraing the PM to go to court, not bcoz I am his supporter, but coz of one thing.
LET THE RULE OF LAW BE ENTRENCHED IN THIS COUNTRY
If you are agrieved and you dont agree with me on something, the best is to go to a neutral body for solution.
So I want him to go to court, whatever it decides, i will respect it. And hope he will too The issue here is what are the possible outcomes of the court case? What would Raila consider a favourable outcome and where would that lead him? Let us assume that the court agrees that there were irregularities with the tallying and orders a recount. It is then found that Raila had 200,000 more votes than were reported and Uhuru had 200,000 less which brings the final figures to 49.2*% Uhuru to Railas 45.5*%. Would the courts then order a runoff or would they then nullify the whole process and start afresh? Assuming they order a runoff does Raila believe he can win it? If they order a new election (assuming the country can afford it) does Raila believe he can win it? I cannot see any favourable outcome for Raila and that is why I think he will drop it. Not because he does not feel cheated but because as things stand he cannot make his situation better by going to court whatever the merits of his case may be. possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/2/2011 Posts: 4,824 Location: -1.2107, 36.8831
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Its Raila's Right to go to Court, but its not his right to lose anything especially an election. Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/9/2009 Posts: 1,262
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What if the court upholds the concerns raised e.g. Cases of altered register to an extent that the final result could have been affected should it be ignored?
And should RAO be blamed for raising the issues?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/27/2011 Posts: 1,777
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xyzee wrote:What if the court upholds the concerns raised e.g. Cases of altered register to an extent that the final result could have been affected should it be ignored?
And should RAO be blamed for raising the issues? Ok, let him have his way so long as he is not just wasting our time.....
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