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Impunity
#1 Posted : Saturday, March 09, 2013 4:19:45 AM
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What to do?
What not to do?

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#2 Posted : Saturday, March 09, 2013 4:30:18 AM
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If you watched the markets....the rally was on full gear investors are excited
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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hisah
#3 Posted : Saturday, March 09, 2013 4:38:27 AM
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What is this fascination about UK as the head?

KE is the hydrocarbons gateway for EA's oil & gas fat pay check. That's the main focus. The market sees this. Why can't people see this simple fact! Maybe from out here it's easier for me to filter the unnecessary noise...
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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mnandii
#4 Posted : Saturday, March 09, 2013 12:51:24 PM
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hisah wrote:
What is this fascination about UK as the head?

KE is the hydrocarbons gateway for EA's oil & gas fat pay check. That's the main focus. The market sees this. Why can't people see this simple fact! Maybe from out here it's easier for me to filter the unnecessary noise...

Conventional thinkers waste time building shelters when they are unnecessary and then have no shelters when they need them the most. Socionomists do the opposite.
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#5 Posted : Saturday, March 09, 2013 4:25:10 PM
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I have a feeling he'll want the 2nd term, parliament now has alot of powers vetting behavior, media freedom etc My take is that he'll be an over achiever. If only to prove hague and the west wrong

Proverbs 19:21
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#6 Posted : Saturday, March 09, 2013 9:23:30 PM
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Mukiri wrote:
I have a feeling he'll want the 2nd term, parliament now has alot of powers vetting behavior, media freedom etc My take is that he'll be an over achiever. If only to prove hague and the west wrong


@Mukiri. If proving The Hague & west will make him achieve big, so be it.
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#7 Posted : Sunday, March 10, 2013 7:26:12 AM
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tomorrow the market will behave very badly

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#8 Posted : Sunday, March 10, 2013 7:42:24 AM
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I jus cannot wait for tomorrow . When is it going to reach.
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the deal
#9 Posted : Sunday, March 10, 2013 7:46:21 AM
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This is a PR nightmare for Kenya...having a Pres who is now and there at the ICC...how will he focus on the job as he tries to clear his name at the ICC? What happens if one of them is taken in? Will the government hold? My understanding is one of the two has a very strong case.
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#10 Posted : Sunday, March 10, 2013 8:57:48 AM
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Am optimistic.
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#11 Posted : Sunday, March 10, 2013 9:56:43 AM
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#12 Posted : Sunday, March 10, 2013 10:03:46 AM
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the deal wrote:
This is a PR nightmare for Kenya...having a Pres who is now and there at the ICC...how will he focus on the job as he tries to clear his name at the ICC? What happens if one of them is taken in? Will the government hold? My understanding is one of the two has a very strong case.

The cases will be sent back to Kenya or Arusha, or dropped and investigations started afresh! Don't worry about that.
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#13 Posted : Sunday, March 10, 2013 10:17:43 AM
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#14 Posted : Sunday, March 10, 2013 2:09:19 PM
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I went out this morning but I'm not pleased has some shocks I got.president uk may have nothing to do with this but I would like to draw his attention:

the landlord in my neighbouring plot came with a notice to the tenants of increase in rent.raises eyebrows especially immediately after uk win was announced.I'm sure that its a matter of time before our Landlord does the same.
(on a 'willing' buyer basis) nani atatetea sisi ?

2.went to the nearby butcher.half kg is now 220/ from 200/ on Friday.
hope this is can be attributed to supply chain hiccups due to election outcome uncertainty.

3.a bunch of sukumawiki that was costing 5/- is now going at 7/- to 10/-

hope the tyranny of numbers doesnt go in to businesses as the social economic injustice will be worse especially in Nairobi county's lowest income groups.



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tycho
#15 Posted : Sunday, March 10, 2013 2:23:54 PM
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newfarer wrote:
I went out this morning but I'm not pleased has some shocks I got.president uk may have nothing to do with this but I would like to draw his attention:

the landlord in my neighbouring plot came with a notice to the tenants of increase in rent.raises eyebrows especially immediately after uk win was announced.I'm sure that its a matter of time before our Landlord does the same.
(on a 'willing' buyer basis) nani atatetea sisi ?

2.went to the nearby butcher.half kg is now 220/ from 200/ on Friday.
hope this is can be attributed to supply chain hiccups due to election outcome uncertainty.

3.a bunch of sukumawiki that was costing 5/- is now going at 7/- to 10/-

hope the tyranny of numbers doesnt go in to businesses as the social economic injustice will be worse especially in Nairobi county's lowest income groups.
just exo





I doubt whether we need to rely on a government for the containment of prices.

We need to work out 'a market solution' to the market.
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#16 Posted : Sunday, March 10, 2013 2:32:39 PM
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tycho wrote:
newfarer wrote:
I went out this morning but I'm not pleased has some shocks I got.president uk may have nothing to do with this but I would like to draw his attention:

the landlord in my neighbouring plot came with a notice to the tenants of increase in rent.raises eyebrows especially immediately after uk win was announced.I'm sure that its a matter of time before our Landlord does the same.
(on a 'willing' buyer basis) nani atatetea sisi ?

2.went to the nearby butcher.half kg is now 220/ from 200/ on Friday.
hope this is can be attributed to supply chain hiccups due to election outcome uncertainty.

3.a bunch of sukumawiki that was costing 5/- is now going at 7/- to 10/-

hope the tyranny of numbers doesnt go in to businesses as the social economic injustice will be worse especially in Nairobi county's lowest income groups.
just exo





I doubt whether we need to rely on a government for the containment of prices.

We need to work out 'a market solution' to the market.

the buck stops at the president's desk.
he will need sharp minds to come up with these market solutions.ensure inflationary pressures are kept in check.otherwise an inflationary spiral would be quite painful to bear

punda amecheka
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mnandii
#17 Posted : Sunday, March 10, 2013 2:39:59 PM
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Much Know wrote:
the deal wrote:
This is a PR nightmare for Kenya...having a Pres who is now and there at the ICC...how will he focus on the job as he tries to clear his name at the ICC? What happens if one of them is taken in? Will the government hold? My understanding is one of the two has a very strong case.

The cases will be sent back to Kenya or Arusha, or dropped and investigations started afresh! Don't worry about that.

You mean its that easy? d'oh!
Conventional thinkers waste time building shelters when they are unnecessary and then have no shelters when they need them the most. Socionomists do the opposite.
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mnandii
#18 Posted : Sunday, March 10, 2013 2:53:02 PM
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The west has never been known to preach water and drink it. Here's the way I see the current situation.

The West needs Kenya and UK also needs the west (despite statements to the contrary). That is a realistic situation.

If UK 'behaves' (does not do something that can irretrievably damage relations) then we are likely to have some good times ahead. The hydrocarbons debate and geopolitics lend credence to this scenario. As such the cases at the Hague can possibly be dropped (in a smart way to avoid hurting ICC).

I don't buy the argument that simply because we have oil then we can do just about anything. Iran has oil but where is the market? Heck, even Somalia has oil and that can be an alternative to those who may not get their hands on Kenyan oil.

My cents.
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tycho
#19 Posted : Sunday, March 10, 2013 2:59:28 PM
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newfarer wrote:
tycho wrote:
newfarer wrote:
I went out this morning but I'm not pleased has some shocks I got.president uk may have nothing to do with this but I would like to draw his attention:

the landlord in my neighbouring plot came with a notice to the tenants of increase in rent.raises eyebrows especially immediately after uk win was announced.I'm sure that its a matter of time before our Landlord does the same.
(on a 'willing' buyer basis) nani atatetea sisi ?

2.went to the nearby butcher.half kg is now 220/ from 200/ on Friday.
hope this is can be attributed to supply chain hiccups due to election outcome uncertainty.

3.a bunch of sukumawiki that was costing 5/- is now going at 7/- to 10/-

hope the tyranny of numbers doesnt go in to businesses as the social economic injustice will be worse especially in Nairobi county's lowest income groups.
just exo





I doubt whether we need to rely on a government for the containment of prices.

We need to work out 'a market solution' to the market.

the buck stops at the president's desk.
he will need sharp minds to come up with these market solutions.ensure inflationary pressures are kept in check.otherwise an inflationary spiral would be quite painful to bear



True. The Presidency has a role to play, but so does the citizenry. It's a very dynamic relationship.

If the citizen can play his role, then whole relationship changes.

Let us not forget that the Presidency and our nationhood are legitimate and are to be protected.
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#20 Posted : Sunday, March 10, 2013 3:50:21 PM
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hisah wrote:
What is this fascination about UK as the head?

KE is the hydrocarbons gateway for EA's oil & gas fat pay check. That's the main focus. The market sees this. Why can't people see this simple fact! Maybe from out here it's easier for me to filter the unnecessary noise...


What is the timeline for this gas and oil
paycheck ?
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