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New update: Safaricom issues an even clearer statement from CEO. In brief, 'it was muddy but there was not a speck of dust on us': - we only were providing SIM cards and handsets - our mobile and VPN network was working 100% at all times http://iebctechkenya.tumblr.com...9267/safaricom-statementA more insightful update sourced from IEBC tech department admitting: 1. Disk space problem 2. Transmission issues (due to people, process, technology) 3. Network coverage challenge http://iebctechkenya.tumblr.com...march-6-update-from-iebc
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,941
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2008 Posts: 2,723
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This IT speak is meant to confuse us and make a rather simple problem look very big.
The problem is getting the results from the polling centres to Nairobi. All the presidential results are tallied on a single form.
What would be so hard to just take a picture of the paper with a regular smart phone and send it in as you await to login and send it officially?
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 6/14/2011 Posts: 32 Location: nairobi
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alma wrote:@muganda, this is becoming very interesting.
I can imagine what the commissioners are going through. IT fellows have a knack of failing to solve a problem and blaming everyone else.
I suggest they do this.
Test phase 1 to 3 that safcom is protecting with its life.
Test phase 4 - Personally I think therein lies the problem
But that's just an opinion.
I was shocked to see the IEBC site run under Joomla platform. I expect that if I'm spending 8billion shillings on anything, I should at least get a custom made site. Joomla my foot!
The IT department at IEBC should be interogated because they are aware of what is wrong. If they aren't aware, they should be aware. If this is not the case, they should be jailed for incompetence.
You can't order for tech equipment and not stress test them.
IT fellows in Kenya should then all be lined up at the airport and sent to India for basic IT skills. To assume that coz it is Open source tool being used , it is inferior , is unfortunate. Joomla is the most widely used CMS in the world (yes more than wordpress etc) and to have a custom made site( my assumption here is from scratch) very few people do that anymore. back to joomla , it is has plugins that can be expensive at times. By the way i am more of a Drupal person... As to all IT guys being taken to India 1 . Not all IT guys work for IEBC 2. With the politics involved , i doubt the IT directorate at IEBC had anything with the sourcing of the software and hardware. At best , in relation to the systems in question, they are just smart end users. 3 India is not the best in terms of systems development , they are just cheap labor(Ever heard of POPS? stands for pissed off programmer syndrome ) .Been created in the US because after the logical and physical designs, these are shipped off to India for programming. ICT is bigger that programming
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/2/2010 Posts: 563 Location: Embakasi
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I don't buy that disk space issue. Si these results were being transmitted esentially via SMS in plain text. These texts could not have been more than 10kb each, so even if 100M texts were sent, it would only need a 1TB hard disk. Surely their servers had adequate capacity? In a place where thought is abandoned, freedom can become a curse.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/20/2007 Posts: 4,432
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sysdevPM wrote:alma wrote:@muganda, this is becoming very interesting.
I can imagine what the commissioners are going through. IT fellows have a knack of failing to solve a problem and blaming everyone else.
I suggest they do this.
Test phase 1 to 3 that safcom is protecting with its life.
Test phase 4 - Personally I think therein lies the problem
But that's just an opinion.
I was shocked to see the IEBC site run under Joomla platform. I expect that if I'm spending 8billion shillings on anything, I should at least get a custom made site. Joomla my foot!
The IT department at IEBC should be interogated because they are aware of what is wrong. If they aren't aware, they should be aware. If this is not the case, they should be jailed for incompetence.
You can't order for tech equipment and not stress test them.
IT fellows in Kenya should then all be lined up at the airport and sent to India for basic IT skills. To assume that coz it is Open source tool being used , it is inferior , is unfortunate. Joomla is the most widely used CMS in the world (yes more than wordpress etc) and to have a custom made site( my assumption here is from scratch) very few people do that anymore. back to joomla , it is has plugins that can be expensive at times. By the way i am more of a Drupal person... As to all IT guys being taken to India 1 . Not all IT guys work for IEBC 2. With the politics involved , i doubt the IT directorate at IEBC had anything with the sourcing of the software and hardware. At best , in relation to the systems in question, they are just smart end users. 3 India is not the best in terms of systems development , they are just cheap labor(Ever heard of POPS? stands for pissed off programmer syndrome ) .Been created in the US because after the logical and physical designs, these are shipped off to India for programming. ICT is bigger that programming Wewe know what you are saying before you go yapping around. The only reason why someone with 8billion can go and use an open source system is because he's cheap or daft. Which is it? You are given 1 million to develop IEBC website and instead of coding a good website that is useful for your client, you go cheap with joomla in the name of open source. Kweli you work for Next Technolies? Even their site is built in joomla and the default template at that. It would take me 10 minutes and $50 to hack that. Sending IT guys to India was meant as a figure of speech. Not to be taken seriously. Just a means of expressing my disappointment. But in your case, I think it would be prudent. Let's face it. The IT team in IEBC failed miserably. We shall be dealing with them as soon as the manual vote counting is done. Now lets go wait for analogue returns. Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/15/2006 Posts: 3,908
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Alright, Isaack Hassan, Chairman of IEBC has come out and taken full responsibility for the bloopers, while defending Safaricom as a valuable partner and making an appeal for good will.
It was an honorable thing to do - he has won my respect!
I hope all parties involved (yes, even Safaricom) will take the lessons as we move on, for the sake of the Country.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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ach ach ach you guys talked some conc stuff hapa navenye 1st C++programming ilinilemea na computer organisation and something  ...i wish I had you as my friends then surely things would have been better possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/6/2008 Posts: 3,589
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muganda wrote:Alright, Isaack Hassan, Chairman of IEBC has come out and taken full responsibility for the bloopers, while defending Safaricom as a valuable partner and making an appeal for good will.
It was an honorable thing to do - he has won my respect!
I hope all parties involved (yes, even Safaricom) will take the lessons as we move on, for the sake of the Country.
This was simply admirable, i think he also explained that they thought "local people" could handle the IT jobs to their dismay, which sounded reasonable. Ras Kienyeji Man
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/17/2009 Posts: 3,583 Location: Kenya
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Much Know wrote:muganda wrote:Alright, Isaack Hassan, Chairman of IEBC has come out and taken full responsibility for the bloopers, while defending Safaricom as a valuable partner and making an appeal for good will.
It was an honorable thing to do - he has won my respect!
I hope all parties involved (yes, even Safaricom) will take the lessons as we move on, for the sake of the Country.
This was simply admirable, i think he also explained that they thought "local people" could handle the IT jobs to their dismay, which sounded reasonable. the only thing iebc is avoiding is stating what happened a basic IT oriented explanation would do, it might not even be the systems that failed - maybe some users failed or were unable to use the system. I still can't bring my mind to the complexity of the system, its just a form with 8 fields that someone is supposed to key in figures and press send, then a server (storage) that saves the same - high school computer science kids would have handled this without hitches
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