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dunkang
#231 Posted : Monday, March 04, 2013 11:25:26 PM
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ALERT:William Ruto says all indications show a Jubilee coalition win in the first round, urges supporters to wait for official result.
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mwenza
#232 Posted : Monday, March 04, 2013 11:25:28 PM
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Joined: 4/22/2009
Posts: 2,863
Shotgun wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Shotgun wrote:
tassia wrote:
mwenza wrote:
xyzee wrote:
do rejected votes count, when determining 50% mark.



50% + 1 is about the number of votes cast......are the spoilt votes CAST?


I was just about to ask this question. Is it 50%+1 of the cast votes or of valid votes. I see like this is what will determine run off or not.



Constitution of Kenya
.

Votes Cast = Valid Votes+Spoilt/Rejected Votes+Disputed Votes


Leads to absurd interpretition. A vote can only be cast in favor of someone. In a normal situation if an unqualified person votes, that vote would be disregarded.

Similarly, in a runoff if there were more spoilt votes than valid votes, does it mean there would be no winner or that "spoilt votes" will win since these are votes cast?


Some constitutions clearly state 50% + 1 of valid votes cast....ours says 50% + 1 of votes cast. I am no expert in law but I believe a rejected/spoilt vote was cast in the first place. We'll know from Mr Hassan by tomorrow midday.





...YOur interpretation is spot on!
IF YOU EXPECT ME TO POST ANYTHING POSITIVE ABOUT ASENO, YOU MAY AS WELL SIT ON A PIN
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Coolio
#233 Posted : Monday, March 04, 2013 11:27:33 PM
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washiku wrote:
maka wrote:
Some guy spoilt his vote by drawing some teeth on ole kiyapi's gap


The "xaxa xema xwiry" generation have
successfuly spoiled over 68,000 votes.
I hear walifika kwa Dida na badala
watick wakaandika"LOL"
Kwa PK madame waliandika"OMG so
hot! damn!"
Kwa Muite,"macho nazo!"
Kwa Kiyiapi "hehehe sitajaza pengo lmfao"

very funny.
Nadondosha meli kubwa seuze ngalawa!
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youcan'tstopusnow
#234 Posted : Monday, March 04, 2013 11:28:44 PM
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Joined: 3/24/2010
Posts: 6,779
Location: Black Africa
Ati Uhuru has established a Kiyiapi!Laughing out loudly
GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
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XSK
#235 Posted : Monday, March 04, 2013 11:30:32 PM
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Joined: 12/8/2009
Posts: 975
Location: Nairobi
dunkang wrote:
ALERT:William Ruto says all indications show a Jubilee coalition win in the first round, urges supporters to wait for official result.


@dunkang

Mwambie WSR mambo ni mosmos! mbio za nini? it can still go either way

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You will know that you have arrived when money and time are not mutually exclusive "events" in you life!
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sparkly
#236 Posted : Monday, March 04, 2013 11:35:01 PM
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mwenza wrote:
Shotgun wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Shotgun wrote:
tassia wrote:
mwenza wrote:
xyzee wrote:
do rejected votes count, when determining 50% mark.



50% + 1 is about the number of votes cast......are the spoilt votes CAST?


I was just about to ask this question. Is it 50%+1 of the cast votes or of valid votes. I see like this is what will determine run off or not.



Constitution of Kenya
.

Votes Cast = Valid Votes+Spoilt/Rejected Votes+Disputed Votes

Leads to absurd interpretition. A vote can only be cast in favor of someone. In a normal situation if an unqualified person votes, that vote would be disregarded.

Similarly, in a runoff if there were more spoilt votes than valid votes, does it mean there would be no winner or that "spoilt votes" will win since these are votes cast?


Some constitutions clearly state 50% + 1 of valid votes cast....ours says 50% + 1 of votes cast. I am no expert in law but I believe a rejected/spoilt vote was cast in the first place. We'll know from Mr Hassan by tomorrow midday.





...YOur interpretation is spot on!


A question for the Supreme Court.
Life is short. Live passionately.
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simonkabz
#237 Posted : Monday, March 04, 2013 11:36:02 PM
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Joined: 3/2/2007
Posts: 8,776
Location: Cameroon
simonkabz wrote:
Excluding Nairobi n Kakamega,

UK- 22 counties taken thus far
RAO- 21
MaDVD- 1
PK- 1


RAO 22, PK 0-Wajir gone to cord


UK 23
RAO 23
MaDVD 1
TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
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Shotgun
#238 Posted : Monday, March 04, 2013 11:39:24 PM
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Joined: 8/10/2008
Posts: 480

Ati Karooooah had already paid deposit for new State House curtains.... Funny Kenyans!
Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
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mwenza
#239 Posted : Monday, March 04, 2013 11:39:52 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 4/22/2009
Posts: 2,863
sparkly wrote:
mwenza wrote:
Shotgun wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Shotgun wrote:
tassia wrote:
mwenza wrote:
xyzee wrote:
do rejected votes count, when determining 50% mark.



50% + 1 is about the number of votes cast......are the spoilt votes CAST?


I was just about to ask this question. Is it 50%+1 of the cast votes or of valid votes. I see like this is what will determine run off or not.



Constitution of Kenya
.

Votes Cast = Valid Votes+Spoilt/Rejected Votes+Disputed Votes

Leads to absurd interpretition. A vote can only be cast in favor of someone. In a normal situation if an unqualified person votes, that vote would be disregarded.

Similarly, in a runoff if there were more spoilt votes than valid votes, does it mean there would be no winner or that "spoilt votes" will win since these are votes cast?


Some constitutions clearly state 50% + 1 of valid votes cast....ours says 50% + 1 of votes cast. I am no expert in law but I believe a rejected/spoilt vote was cast in the first place. We'll know from Mr Hassan by tomorrow midday.








...YOur interpretation is spot on!


A question for the Supreme Court.



For me it's a no brainer........the difference between "votes cast" and "valid votes cast" is enormous.
IF YOU EXPECT ME TO POST ANYTHING POSITIVE ABOUT ASENO, YOU MAY AS WELL SIT ON A PIN
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Liv
#240 Posted : Monday, March 04, 2013 11:40:10 PM
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Posts: 1,311
Where is Njung'e? Has his vote been counted?
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