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Hunderwear
#41 Posted : Saturday, March 02, 2013 2:49:50 PM
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AlphDoti wrote:
XSK wrote:
McReggae wrote:
If you for any moment believe that crap then you may as well believe the CNN crap that Kikuyu militia are arming themselves in RV ready for war.


some will give him some benefit of doubt. However if there is an iota of truth in that article it just goes to prove that a leopard can never change its spots! Shame on those who may harbour feelings likely to take us to back 2007/8. Sad

All intelligent people in Wazua, were very quick to condemn untruthful and careless utterance by CCN, but when it comes to some website, they cannot question it?
When did you guys start believing in something written in the INternet wihout verifying?
Where is video link showing Jahom saying this?

Please guys, people with selfish motives are capable of anything behind the computer Shame on you Shame on you


My friend have you been in Kenya?the sucker OAR just repeated what he hve been saying all through;
1.He called the judiciary Kangaroo court sometime last year
2.He said IEBC cant be trusted for appointing march 4 as the election date
3.He has never said he would respect voters decision without a challenge
4.In 2007 he passionately led a campaign of 41 tribes against 1.
These are things that are on record so the interviewer is right and not imagining anything.This is Raila for you.

Kenyans vote wisely and wisdom here is voting against backwardly people like raila
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jmbada
#42 Posted : Saturday, March 02, 2013 3:10:35 PM
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McReggae wrote:
How sane kenyans all unite to dismiss a CNN video report of kikuyu militia arming themselves in RV but a section want to believe/accept/wait for confirmation on this FT report fails me.

1. It's largely irrelevant whether or not the CNN feature was well investigated...(i.e. whether the investigative reporter did background before turning up) because
a) if it is true, then this should be reported to police. No-one else on this planet can investigate and resolve it other than cops (including tying it to any political agenda.
b) If it is not true (i.e. these are just guys running a scam to get some chums) then we should disregard
2. The CNN guys are not presidential candidates, able to rally 10's of thousands, if not millions behind virtually any cause. However the FT interviewee is.
3. I am yet to see a formal retraction relating to the FT article as follows:
a)FT have not taken it down and withdrawn it fully...since there are already screenshots in circulation, they would have to print a retraction and possibly fire their journalist for making stuff up (yes, it happens in the West)
b)CORD representative has not come out anywhere and formally said the interview did not occur or there was substantial mis-representation within the article. (all I've seen is reference to a TWEET). If this has changed, please let us know with a RINK if possible.
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Obi 1 Kanobi
#43 Posted : Saturday, March 02, 2013 3:32:34 PM
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jmbada wrote:
McReggae wrote:
How sane kenyans all unite to dismiss a CNN video report of kikuyu militia arming themselves in RV but a section want to believe/accept/wait for confirmation on this FT report fails me.

1. It's largely irrelevant whether or not the CNN feature was well investigated...(i.e. whether the investigative reporter did background before turning up) because
a) if it is true, then this should be reported to police. No-one else on this planet can investigate and resolve it other than cops (including tying it to any political agenda.
b) If it is not true (i.e. these are just guys running a scam to get some chums) then we should disregard
2. The CNN guys are not presidential candidates, able to rally 10's of thousands, if not millions behind virtually any cause. However the FT interviewee is.
3. I am yet to see a formal retraction relating to the FT article as follows:
a)FT have not taken it down and withdrawn it fully...since there are already screenshots in circulation, they would have to print a retraction and possibly fire their journalist for making stuff up (yes, it happens in the West)
b)CORD representative has not come out anywhere and formally said the interview did not occur or there was substantial mis-representation within the article. (all I've seen is reference to a TWEET). If this has changed, please let us know with a RINK if possible.


Why don't you use your obviously well tuned powers of deduction to read the article and conclude whether the heading is supported by the details of the article or not.
"The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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jmbada
#44 Posted : Saturday, March 02, 2013 3:46:47 PM
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
jmbada wrote:
McReggae wrote:
How sane kenyans all unite to dismiss a CNN video report of kikuyu militia arming themselves in RV but a section want to believe/accept/wait for confirmation on this FT report fails me.

1. It's largely irrelevant whether or not the CNN feature was well investigated...(i.e. whether the investigative reporter did background before turning up) because
a) if it is true, then this should be reported to police. No-one else on this planet can investigate and resolve it other than cops (including tying it to any political agenda.
b) If it is not true (i.e. these are just guys running a scam to get some chums) then we should disregard
2. The CNN guys are not presidential candidates, able to rally 10's of thousands, if not millions behind virtually any cause. However the FT interviewee is.
3. I am yet to see a formal retraction relating to the FT article as follows:
a)FT have not taken it down and withdrawn it fully...since there are already screenshots in circulation, they would have to print a retraction and possibly fire their journalist for making stuff up (yes, it happens in the West)
b)CORD representative has not come out anywhere and formally said the interview did not occur or there was substantial mis-representation within the article. (all I've seen is reference to a TWEET). If this has changed, please let us know with a RINK if possible.


Why don't you use your obviously well tuned powers of deduction to read the article and conclude whether the heading is supported by the details of the article or not.

@obi...to quote article

“If I lose, of course it will be because of blackmail and intimidation,” Mr Odinga said in an interview with the Financial Times at his ancestral home in western Kenya.


1. He has already rejected the possibility of losing for any other reason, eg a fair popular vote and voting process.

2. He has warned of dire consequences if he does not lose fairly. However, according to Point 1....it is impossible for him to lose for any reason other than blackmail and intimidation.

What should one deduce from this?

I truly hope this article turns out to have been materially wrong, but the lack of a FORMAL / OFFICIAL rejection has to be worrying.
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Obi 1 Kanobi
#45 Posted : Saturday, March 02, 2013 3:56:40 PM
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jmbada wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
jmbada wrote:
McReggae wrote:
How sane kenyans all unite to dismiss a CNN video report of kikuyu militia arming themselves in RV but a section want to believe/accept/wait for confirmation on this FT report fails me.

1. It's largely irrelevant whether or not the CNN feature was well investigated...(i.e. whether the investigative reporter did background before turning up) because
a) if it is true, then this should be reported to police. No-one else on this planet can investigate and resolve it other than cops (including tying it to any political agenda.
b) If it is not true (i.e. these are just guys running a scam to get some chums) then we should disregard
2. The CNN guys are not presidential candidates, able to rally 10's of thousands, if not millions behind virtually any cause. However the FT interviewee is.
3. I am yet to see a formal retraction relating to the FT article as follows:
a)FT have not taken it down and withdrawn it fully...since there are already screenshots in circulation, they would have to print a retraction and possibly fire their journalist for making stuff up (yes, it happens in the West)
b)CORD representative has not come out anywhere and formally said the interview did not occur or there was substantial mis-representation within the article. (all I've seen is reference to a TWEET). If this has changed, please let us know with a RINK if possible.


Why don't you use your obviously well tuned powers of deduction to read the article and conclude whether the heading is supported by the details of the article or not.

@obi...to quote article

“If I lose, of course it will be because of blackmail and intimidation,” Mr Odinga said in an interview with the Financial Times at his ancestral home in western Kenya.


1. He has already rejected the possibility of losing for any other reason, eg a fair popular vote and voting process.

2. He has warned of dire consequences if he does not lose fairly. However, according to Point 1....it is impossible for him to lose for any reason other than blackmail and intimidation.

What should one deduce from this?

I truly hope this article turns out to have been materially wrong, but the lack of a FORMAL / OFFICIAL rejection has to be worrying.


What you are interpreting as malice is just bravado and can be interpreted in so many ways.

The key point is where he says in the article that he will go to court for dispute resolution. Please find that.
"The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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harrydre
#46 Posted : Saturday, March 02, 2013 4:31:23 PM
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I want to hear him reject this crap today at nyayo otherwise it will remain as so. the stuff is all over the media
i.am.back!!!!
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Njung'e
#47 Posted : Saturday, March 02, 2013 5:08:56 PM
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http://www.capitalfm.co....y-financial-times-story/
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digitek1
#48 Posted : Saturday, March 02, 2013 6:06:22 PM
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harrydre wrote:
I want to hear him reject this crap today at nyayo otherwise it will remain as so. the stuff is all over the media

he denies officially
I may be wrong..but then I could be right
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digitek1
#49 Posted : Saturday, March 02, 2013 6:08:28 PM
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but gemstone warns of 'cha mtema kuni'
I may be wrong..but then I could be right
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KulaRaha
#50 Posted : Saturday, March 02, 2013 6:10:38 PM
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
jmbada wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
jmbada wrote:
McReggae wrote:
How sane kenyans all unite to dismiss a CNN video report of kikuyu militia arming themselves in RV but a section want to believe/accept/wait for confirmation on this FT report fails me.

1. It's largely irrelevant whether or not the CNN feature was well investigated...(i.e. whether the investigative reporter did background before turning up) because
a) if it is true, then this should be reported to police. No-one else on this planet can investigate and resolve it other than cops (including tying it to any political agenda.
b) If it is not true (i.e. these are just guys running a scam to get some chums) then we should disregard
2. The CNN guys are not presidential candidates, able to rally 10's of thousands, if not millions behind virtually any cause. However the FT interviewee is.
3. I am yet to see a formal retraction relating to the FT article as follows:
a)FT have not taken it down and withdrawn it fully...since there are already screenshots in circulation, they would have to print a retraction and possibly fire their journalist for making stuff up (yes, it happens in the West)
b)CORD representative has not come out anywhere and formally said the interview did not occur or there was substantial mis-representation within the article. (all I've seen is reference to a TWEET). If this has changed, please let us know with a RINK if possible.


Why don't you use your obviously well tuned powers of deduction to read the article and conclude whether the heading is supported by the details of the article or not.

@obi...to quote article

“If I lose, of course it will be because of blackmail and intimidation,” Mr Odinga said in an interview with the Financial Times at his ancestral home in western Kenya.


1. He has already rejected the possibility of losing for any other reason, eg a fair popular vote and voting process.

2. He has warned of dire consequences if he does not lose fairly. However, according to Point 1....it is impossible for him to lose for any reason other than blackmail and intimidation.

What should one deduce from this?

I truly hope this article turns out to have been materially wrong, but the lack of a FORMAL / OFFICIAL rejection has to be worrying.


What you are interpreting as malice is just bravado and can be interpreted in so many ways.

The key point is where he says in the article that he will go to court for dispute resolution. Please find that.


GOK now wants CNN to reveal where they got the film footage showing militias arming in RV. I pray its not true. I pray!
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