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'Odinga warns of trouble if he loses poll'
ecstacy
#21 Posted : Saturday, March 02, 2013 9:19:33 AM
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dunkang wrote:
I thought i heard kaloozer saying this in Kisumu yesterday and not RAO.


Read the article.
Jus Blazin
#22 Posted : Saturday, March 02, 2013 9:23:42 AM
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Lolest! wrote:
McReggae wrote:
If you for any moment believe that crap then you may as well believe the CNN crap that Kikuyu militia are arming themselves in RV ready for war.

So there was no interview or he was misquoted? Is this the official CORD position? Btw, good to see the shouting exclamation marks off

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washiku
#23 Posted : Saturday, March 02, 2013 9:26:30 AM
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So how should we prepare ourselves coz he will lose?
254.co.ke
#24 Posted : Saturday, March 02, 2013 9:40:37 AM
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Could this be even remotely real? God Help this country, we need peace like never before
kangi
#25 Posted : Saturday, March 02, 2013 9:54:08 AM
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Pray Pray Pray Pray and even more Pray Pray Pray
washiku wrote:
So how should we prepare ourselves coz he will lose?

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Obi 1 Kanobi
#26 Posted : Saturday, March 02, 2013 9:58:10 AM
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ecstacy wrote:
Odinga warns of trouble if he loses poll

Raila Odinga, a leading contender to become Kenya’s next president, has given warning of dire consequences if he is deprived of victory in Monday’s elections – citing a campaign by rivals to intimidate his supporters.

The public reaction could be “worse than last time”, said Mr Odinga, as Kenya prepares to hold its most ambitious and complex polls to date – taking place with memories still fresh of the widespread violence that followed the previous general election in late 2007.

That bloodshed brought the country to the brink of collapse. More than 1,100 people were killed and 660,000 displaced in ethnic clashes – the worst in the country’s 50 years of independence.

“If I lose, of course it will be because of blackmail and intimidation,” Mr Odinga said in an interview with the Financial Times at his ancestral home in western Kenya.

“I know that they [my rivals] are putting plans in place to try to rig these elections, but I have warned them the consequences may be worse than last time round. The people will not stomach another rigging.”

Given the danger that any protests against results could turn deadly, as they did last time, his words are sure to raise some alarm.

“He’s positioning himself to reject the result,” said an analyst of the vote in which every ballot will count.

Mr Odinga and his chief rival Uhuru Kenyatta, deputy prime minister, are rated neck-and-neck in opinion polls – at close to 45 points each. To win in Monday’s first round, candidates need an absolute majority and at least 25 per cent of votes polled in half the country’s 47 new counties, introduced under the terms of a 2010 constitution. If there is no outright winner, a second round falls due in April.

Despite a barrage of peace concerts and communal prayers in the final days before the vote, tension is rising as both sides trade accusations of ethnic harassment and voter manipulation.

“I think there’s a bit of blackmail going on, basically to try to reduce numbers, particularly among my supporters and this is something that is being orchestrated by my rivals,” said Mr Odinga, some of whose comments are borne out by election observer reports.

He is the son of Jaramogi Oginga Odinga, a prominent figure in Kenya’s struggle for independence from Britain who later fell out with the country’s first president – Mr Kenyatta’s father. Raila Odinga has rejected suspect election results before. In 2007, he called his supporters on to the street to protest in demonstrations that quickly turned violent and in places murderous.

According to subsequent human rights reports, police shot dead more than 400 demonstrators whose protests triggered reprisal attacks from the Mungiki, an outlawed ethnic gang, who beheaded and burned their victims alive.

Mr Odinga was eventually appointed prime minister in a settlement negotiated by international mediators that ended the unrest. Mr Kenyatta and his running mate, William Ruto, are both facing trial at the International Criminal Court in The Hague for their alleged roles in organising the 2008 violence.

Mr Odinga quipped that they were “Siamese twins joined at the waist by the ICC”.

Diplomats and rights campaigners are imploring losers to accept the result this time, or take their grievances to the courts rather than to the streets.

Both leading contenders have instead talked up their chances of winning in the first round. Mr Odinga says he would seek redress through the judiciary, consistently rated the most respected institution in the country following a 2010 shake-up. But he harbours some doubts.

“The thing is that the weaknesses within our criminal justice system are becoming apparent. We’ve made very substantial progress in the reform but it’s still not there,” he said.

Chief Justice Willy Mutunga, whose job it is to swear in the new president and preside over any legal challenges, has complained of death threats and state interference in the run-up to the vote.

Both Mr Mutunga and Mr Odinga have suggested that parts of the government apparatus are biased in favour of Mr Kenyatta, whom Mr Odinga says draws significant support only from his Kikuyu ethnic group. Mr Odinga perceives an ethnic bias towards the Kikuyu in almost every institution of the state.

“[The retiring president Mwai Kibaki] is only comfortable working with the people from his tribe; Uhuru will not be different. These people don’t really want to unite the country,” said Mr Odinga, adding that he would appoint Kenyans from all ethnic groups to government and would be willing to include Mr Kenyatta, too, in order to create “a win-win situation”.


All the sentences marked in red are true and very critical.

This interview is very good and I have not seen anywhere where RAO has said that he will create trouble if he loses the election as the headline suggests, but may be I can't read properly so anyone please show me.
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McReggae
#27 Posted : Saturday, March 02, 2013 10:45:34 AM
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The headline of that article are misleading with some content only coming from the authors imaginations, it is meant to stir up emotions and this must not be allowed.
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innairobi
#28 Posted : Saturday, March 02, 2013 10:57:53 AM
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Hehe. In keeping with my doomsday prophecies...

ICC, ICC, ICC, did I say ICC?.....CHECK!

Statement from US/EU warning of 'consequences....CHECK!

US/EU signalling essential contact with certain candidates (so if they win and loser for logical or illogical reason cries foul, there is no way they can recognize the new government).....CHECK!

Opinion polls accompanied by editorials alluding to a 'near certain runoff' but understating two key assumptions affecting the veracity of the opinion polls - turnout and actual registered voters.....CHECK!

Claims that state apparatus is being used to rig elections.....CHECK!

Insinuation that the judiciary is trying but can still not be trusted.....CHECK!

Letter to CJ from 'Mungiki' warning of dire consequences if uhuruto are blocked.....CHECK!

Leaflets warning certain tribes to leave certain areas...CHECK!

Visible difficulty in unequivocally stating he will accept the results as announced by IEBC......CHECK!

Parallel vote tallying body (ELOG) who will use a sample of 1800 polling stations to 'project' the presidential election results. Whatever or whoever gives an NGO such a sensitive responsibility is unclear.....CHECK!


Meanwhile, we continue wallowing in utopia and bashing anyone who points out the obvious signs of a looming storm. I hope it does not but frankly the warning signs state otherwise.
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AlphDoti
#29 Posted : Saturday, March 02, 2013 11:18:48 AM
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XSK wrote:
McReggae wrote:
If you for any moment believe that crap then you may as well believe the CNN crap that Kikuyu militia are arming themselves in RV ready for war.


some will give him some benefit of doubt. However if there is an iota of truth in that article it just goes to prove that a leopard can never change its spots! Shame on those who may harbour feelings likely to take us to back 2007/8. Sad

All intelligent people in Wazua, were very quick to condemn untruthful and careless utterance by CCN, but when it comes to some website, they cannot question it?
When did you guys start believing in something written in the INternet wihout verifying?
Where is video link showing Jahom saying this?

Please guys, people with selfish motives are capable of anything behind the computer Shame on you Shame on you
Lolest!
#30 Posted : Saturday, March 02, 2013 11:24:45 AM
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If RAO denies this interview took place, I will believe him. So I ask again, is this a fake interview or was he misquoted? If he was misquoted, which part of the interview is his word? What is the official position on this? Still waiting...
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