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I have no case against Muthaura – Bensouda
dunkang
#1 Posted : Wednesday, February 27, 2013 11:42:29 AM
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digitek1
#2 Posted : Wednesday, February 27, 2013 11:59:48 AM
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the OC4 are now OC3
I may be wrong..but then I could be right
washiku
#3 Posted : Wednesday, February 27, 2013 12:06:00 PM
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Bensouda said on Tuesday that her case is flawed since the main witness against Muthaura – Witness Number 4 – has since been dropped.

“Witness 4 was the principal source of evidence that supported the Prosecution’s charges against Muthaura at the confirmation stage. There would not have been sufficient evidence to confirm the charges against Muthaura without Witness 4’s evidence,” Bensouda said in her submission to Trial Chamber V.


But Kamwana not yet off the hook...

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The prosecution however disagreed with Muthaura’s co-accused Deputy Prime Minister Uhuru Kenyatta explaining that Witness 4 was not the only one whose evidence was relied on to confirm charges at the Pre-Trial stage.

She said there were witnesses 11 and 12 who also gave evidence that Kenyatta allegedly met and funded Mungiki to carry retaliatory attacks in Naivasha during the post election violence.

“Even if the Pre-Trial Chamber would have discarded Witness 4’s evidence in its entirety, the remaining evidence cited in the confirmation decision establishes “substantial grounds to believe” that Mr Kenyatta committed the crimes charged. The Defence argument ignores the totality of the evidence relied upon by the Pre-Trial Chamber. For example, there is no mention of the following findings that were based on other evidence, including Witnesses 11 and 12, and not on Witness 4,” Bensouda argued.


Lakini iko chida kidogo

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Bensouda however admitted that the prosecution was wrong for failing to inform the Pre-Trial Chamber that witness 4’s evidence could not be relied on due to inconsistencies.

She said the prosecution should have informed the Pre-Trial Chamber about it before it issued a decision that confirmed charges against Kenyatta and Muthaura.

“While the Prosecution acknowledges and regrets its error in not disclosing Witness 4’s asylum affidavit prior to confirmation, this error does not undermine the confirmation decision to such an extent that it needs to be referred back to the Pre-Trial Chamber for reconsideration. Had the affidavit been disclosed, it would have at most permitted the Defence to contest the credibility of Witness 4,” Bensouda asserted.

Bensouda explained that Witness 4 was dropped for contradictions and also admitting that he lied to the court when he submitted his evidence against Kenyatta.
nostoppingthis
#4 Posted : Wednesday, February 27, 2013 12:11:31 PM
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Maybe all along, they were targeting the 2 suspects....with rcent events, labda Arap Sang is a witness
yekeyeke
#5 Posted : Wednesday, February 27, 2013 1:11:51 PM
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Goes to show hii yote ni siasa. ICC no longer has credibility...Wacha case irudi Jikoni for dismissal.

Kwani Bensuda was not deputy prosecutor when these errors were happening. If this was an error, how many other errors are there? In my view, all the other witnesses are all errors....Bure kabisa..

Targeting UHURUTO just because they have declared their intention to vie for the presidency and deputy presidency of Kenya is simply siasa mbaya by the west.

But we will show them on Monday next week, why the freedom fighters said Muzungu aende kabisa...
Jaina
#6 Posted : Wednesday, February 27, 2013 1:51:51 PM
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However, in the likely event that UK and Muthaura charges are refered back to be dropped; Ruto should be afraid,... very afraid.

As they say, in politics, there are no permanent friends or permanent enemies,...only common intrests.
dunkang
#7 Posted : Wednesday, February 27, 2013 1:57:37 PM
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ICC: Muthaura case to be reconsidered
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Angelica _ann
#8 Posted : Wednesday, February 27, 2013 1:59:53 PM
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to be vs could?????
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Lucid_Iam
#9 Posted : Wednesday, February 27, 2013 2:01:21 PM
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Jaina wrote:
However, in the likely event that UK and Muthaura charges are refered back to be dropped; Ruto should be afraid,... very afraid.

As they say, in politics, there are no permanent friends or permanent enemies,...only common intrests.

Leaving WR to hang on his own would be the greatest mistake we can make as a nation. We need to reconcile and move forward. Most of this cases are based on hearsay, I think pushing this cases to August is preparing the ground for dismissal. You cannot rely on coached witnesses and hearsay like Jendayi said, you will only end up embarrassing the court.
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