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KENOL KOBIL .... 2012
SymaX
#2481 Posted : Friday, February 22, 2013 1:13:04 PM
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Shame on you
mwekez@ji wrote:
Will KK benefit from the TURKANA OIL?

hisah
#2482 Posted : Friday, February 22, 2013 3:27:59 PM
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hisah wrote:
KK tech readings tea leaves - Bearish RSI, bearish stochastics and constricting bollinger bands. Large move ahead, but from the bear chart pattern, downside risks outweight a bullish move. Also falling trendline since topping out @16.40 on Jul 3 2012 has been the guardrail as price slid to current levels. Downside targets 13/- and 12.50/- Breach of 12.50/- will see price dropping to 11/-

Anxiously waiting for those ulcers inducing KK results...

Stated back in Jan 30 2013.

VWAP closed @12.65/- Breaking below 12.50/- will see losses accelerate as many wanjikus are shaken out by the hard hammering.

Still a good stock to hold long term due to the hydrocarbon ace game.

Meanwhile the TOTL has finally broken out. A bullish break the opposite of KK.

Quite interesting the breakouts are happening just before the elections.

Those counters on bullish breakouts should rally hard if the polls conclude peacefully.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
SittingPretty
#2483 Posted : Friday, February 22, 2013 3:37:29 PM
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That PUMA deal could be off for now, going by their behavior in the market..... It could be a PR stunt, however a keen eye will note they are back to their ways of shorting the fuel market,which had been shelved when PUMA came into the picture! Maybe they are in to regain the market leadership! However right now the oil industry is extremely susceptible .... look at the international prices, being hedged or not is equally dangerous! But then again stocks prices can be surprising (still learning)!
My 2cents!
Timely advice is as lovely as golden apples in a silver basket. Proverbs 25:11
VituVingiSana
#2484 Posted : Friday, February 22, 2013 11:35:29 PM
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Seems Puma [like many other investors] are taking a wait & see approach. It makes sense to wait it out until after the elections just in case a few stations are destroyed, etc... Let's hope it does not come to that but better safe than sorry. Plus the price might drop if biwott decides to cut & run!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
guru267
#2485 Posted : Saturday, February 23, 2013 12:36:32 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Seems Puma [like many other investors] are taking a wait & see approach. It makes sense to wait it out until after the elections just in case a few stations are destroyed, etc... Let's hope it does not come to that but better safe than sorry. Plus the price might drop if biwott decides to cut & run!


@VVS you can't really still believe this deal will go through?? Sad

#Delusions!
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
VituVingiSana
#2486 Posted : Saturday, February 23, 2013 9:32:36 PM
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guru267 wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Seems Puma [like many other investors] are taking a wait & see approach. It makes sense to wait it out until after the elections just in case a few stations are destroyed, etc... Let's hope it does not come to that but better safe than sorry. Plus the price might drop if biwott decides to cut & run!


@VVS you can't really still believe this deal will go through?? Sad

#Delusions!
My delusions. I am a Buffettian so even if there is no (speculative) takeover, I expect to make money. I do my research, take a position. And wait. I buy more when prices fall [classic Buffett strategy] as long as core fundamentals remain similar.

I did the same with a stock which many dismissed (or thankfully were not interested in)... I kept my cool, waited... [2 more years than expected coz of PEV 2008] and I am very happy with the results. Sold some. Now re-deploying the cash by looking for more KK now that the price has fallen below 13. Happy Days Applause Applause Applause
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
mibbz
#2487 Posted : Sunday, February 24, 2013 3:32:12 AM
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the take over is still on,its going to happen and its wise to stock up
guru267
#2488 Posted : Sunday, February 24, 2013 5:03:41 AM
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mibbz wrote:
the take over is still on,its going to happen and its wise to stock up


I expect full year results to confirm that the deal is off!
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
hisah
#2489 Posted : Sunday, February 24, 2013 6:01:56 AM
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@vvs - I expect fear to strike very soon. I hope that shakeout forces the price below 10. That will be awesome fear that needs to be bought into...
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
Aguytrying
#2490 Posted : Sunday, February 24, 2013 6:59:15 AM
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The fall below 13.00 has caught my eye and i might just buy some more.

The tricky thing is how the market will take the results. the deal is still on, otherwise we would have known and the price wouldnt be as high as now
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
XSK
#2491 Posted : Sunday, February 24, 2013 1:31:06 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
The fall below 13.00 has caught my eye and i might just buy some more.

The tricky thing is how the market will take the results. the deal is still on, otherwise we would have known and the price wouldnt be as high as now


Mwendwa KK what eatest thou? forgive thy speculators and fundamentalist. Rewardeth thy trueth investors!
You will know that you have arrived when money and time are not mutually exclusive "events" in you life!
VituVingiSana
#2492 Posted : Sunday, February 24, 2013 6:00:49 PM
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hisah wrote:
@vvs - I expect fear to strike very soon. I hope that shakeout forces the price below 10. That will be awesome fear that needs to be bought into...
Me too! If I am OK with sub-13, how exciting would it be sub-10? [Of course, I assume a peaceful post-election]
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
MoneyMonger
#2493 Posted : Tuesday, February 26, 2013 10:07:05 PM
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Something about the KK-Puma deal
http://www.businessdaily.../1/-/fgfmqb/-/index.html
There is nothing as dangerous as an Idea, when there is only one Idea
VituVingiSana
#2494 Posted : Wednesday, February 27, 2013 3:12:18 AM
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This will go in favor of KK though it will be one of those time-wasting cases.

As usual, the idiots in the legislature, KRA & Ministry of Finance come up with confusing and ambiguous laws that serve no end but benefit lawyers as these cases end up in court after KRA harasses the firms.

Recently, KRA went after BBK, which had to spend lot of money on lawyers going to court. Then KRA withdrew the false assessment.

Another case is KRA going after Coca-Cola bottler for Shs 5.3bn for washing & re-using recyclable glass bottles. The irony is that now more PET (plastic) bottles are used. These create landfill problems vs locally produced (& reusable) glass bottles.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
VituVingiSana
#2495 Posted : Wednesday, February 27, 2013 3:23:23 AM
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Why KK (it's impressive network) is important for Puma/Trafigura. KK has figured out the logistics of moving fuel from Mombasa, Tanga & Dar all the way to Zambia.

KK is in Kenya, Uganda, Tanzania, Rwanda, Burundi, Zambia & Ethiopia.
It is in the top 3 in Kenya, Uganda, Rwanda & Burundi. It has 80 stations in Ethiopia. Recently (2011/12), it has built or acquired storage facilities in Uganda, Tanzania, Burundi & Zambia.

http://www.businessdaily...2/-/u6tvj1/-/index.html

Oil traders with Gulf operations based in Dubai are looking to sell into an East African market now worth $15 billion a year to supply oil products to power emerging economies growing on the back of a rising population and robust mining activity.

Kuwait’s International Petroleum Group (IPG) has shipped fuel to ports dotted along the coast for more than a decade, fighting alongside established suppliers like trader Trafigura and local companies like Gapco Kenya.

Apart from IPG and Trafigura, which operates in Africa through its subsidiary Puma...

“Part of the attraction of East Africa is that it opens up to the interior, into Zambia and Uganda. There’re lots of companies interested in placing product into these markets if they can optimise the logistics,” Still said.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
guru267
#2496 Posted : Wednesday, February 27, 2013 7:17:08 AM
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I'm really shocked that the deal is still on... What are these guys waiting for?? They are even being caught up by new legislation!
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
sparkly
#2497 Posted : Wednesday, February 27, 2013 7:54:34 AM
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[quote=MoneyMonger]Something about the KK-Puma deal
http://www.businessdaily...1/-/fgfmqb/-/index.html[/quote]
This tax will not affect OMC unless they hold Oil Exploration blocks. That is the spirit of the law. I wonder if the so called experts read the budget speech.
Life is short. Live passionately.
mwekez@ji
#2498 Posted : Wednesday, February 27, 2013 8:45:55 AM
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guru267 wrote:
I'm really shocked that the deal is still on... What are these guys waiting for?? They are even being caught up by new legislation!


... more shock on you! COMING SOON
S.Mutaga III
#2499 Posted : Wednesday, February 27, 2013 9:52:22 AM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
guru267 wrote:
I'm really shocked that the deal is still on... What are these guys waiting for?? They are even being caught up by new legislation!


... more shock on you! COMING SOON

Kenol kobil has a trading desk hence it will be a target for acquisition with the east africa oil boom, if puma bails out, another will come and bid for it..it is only a matter of time.
A successful man is not he who gets the best, it is he who makes the best from what he gets.
Kausha
#2500 Posted : Wednesday, February 27, 2013 10:03:43 AM
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Deal is very much on, 'tulizeni boli'
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