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Tyrany of numbers: AHMEDNASIR ABDULLAHI's version
washiku
#1 Posted : Saturday, February 23, 2013 3:22:59 PM
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@ahmednasirlaw: In my Sunday column this week I will make the most accurate projections on who between Uhuru and Raila will win on 4th. See you then.

In the meantime, a few pointers:

@ahmednasirlaw: 1. 4th march presidential election will be determined by the primary and secondary tribes. The four primary tribes are on the tickets.

@ahmednasirlaw: 2. The registered votes of the primary tribes in jubilee are about 6.4m. In cord the primary tribes the registered votes are about 3.5 m.

@ahmednasirlaw: 3. The four primary tribes account for 60% of the total registered votes. The secondary tribes, the rest.

@ahmednasirlaw: 4. For there to be a run off between Uhuru and Raila, the latter must win about 90% of the votes of the secondary tribes.

@ahmednasirlaw: 5. There is nothing inherently wrong with voting along tribal lines. Tribes are who we are! Ni sawa!

Much Know
#2 Posted : Saturday, February 23, 2013 3:31:40 PM
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Take them with a pinch of salt, people need to turnout in droves.
Ras Kienyeji Man
shocks
#3 Posted : Saturday, February 23, 2013 5:17:01 PM
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Much Know wrote:
Take them with a pinch of salt, people need to turnout in droves.




the guy with the turn outs will win this one
harrydre
#4 Posted : Saturday, February 23, 2013 5:36:08 PM
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shocks wrote:
Much Know wrote:
Take them with a pinch of salt, people need to turnout in droves.




the guy with the turn outs will win this one


ditto! 4th is just 10 days away.
i.am.back!!!!
mnandii
#5 Posted : Saturday, February 23, 2013 5:48:04 PM
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harrydre wrote:
shocks wrote:
Much Know wrote:
Take them with a pinch of salt, people need to turnout in droves.




the guy with the turn outs will win this one


ditto! 4th is just 10 days away.

Conventional thinkers waste time building shelters when they are unnecessary and then have no shelters when they need them the most. Socionomists do the opposite.
shocks
#6 Posted : Saturday, February 23, 2013 6:03:37 PM
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he will tell us what we already know, uhuru wins round one but not 50%
washiku
#7 Posted : Saturday, February 23, 2013 7:06:02 PM
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This is part of what he shall say:

"These primary tribes dominate Central, Nairobi, Easter, Nyanza and Rift Valley. They account of about 60% of the electoral vote. The primary tribes will land the decisive blow in the contest. Here the contest is heavily titled in favour of Uhuru Kenyatta and his running mate William Ruto. In this regard, Raila and Kalonzo Musyoka will bring to the ballot box about 3.5 million of their two primary tribes from all over the country. Uhuru and Ruto will between them bring 6.6 million votes from their primary tribes.

For Raila to clean the deficit he suffers in the primary tribes’ contest, he must get 100% of the votes cast in western Kenya, coast province, Northern Kenya and in Kisii nyanza. That might sound unrealistic, but only the happening of such once in lifetime miracle will take the contest into the second round.

Some Kenyan refuse to appreciate the obvious.....A cruel hoax is being recklessly but gleefully fed on innocent Kenyans. This hoax is the self-serving computer generated numbers taunted as opinion polls by pollsters. These pollsters if one foolishly believes are showing that the two leading presidential candidates are tied, and we should prepare for second round. Nothing could be further from the truth!."

Tomorrows DN.
githundi
#8 Posted : Saturday, February 23, 2013 8:22:05 PM
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Here is the article. It is not conclusive. I can't tell whether it was deliberate or was edited.

Democracy does not belong to the dead
githundi
#9 Posted : Saturday, February 23, 2013 8:24:33 PM
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Here is the article. It is not conclusive. I can't tell whether it was deliberate or was edited.
http://elections.nation..../-/x98u9iz/-/index.html
Democracy does not belong to the dead
innairobi
#10 Posted : Saturday, February 23, 2013 8:57:36 PM
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Like AA, I agree that contrary to the opinion polls, this election has a strong likelihood of ending in the first round. But I cannot go as far as predicting with certainty which of the two horses will win.

My TWO biggest concerns on the opinion polls vis a vis the elections are the following:

1. Up to now the pollsters are relying on an oral affirmation that their interviewee is a registered voter (they do not ask for any proof). IEBC was targeting 18 million voters so theoretically, they fell short by 4 million. In my view, the true number of unregistered persons lies between 5 and 6 million. You can deduce this from several factors including IEBC's obvious underestimation of the number of voters in a couple of non-urban counties where the number of registered voters exceeded 95%.

Remember even in these counties where registration met or exceeded the target, there are still thousands of people who did not see the need to (or could not e.g. health reasons) register. This is a common sense statistic. Tom Wolf once said as much when he alluded to roughly 30% of their respondents not being registered voters (and were therefore lying) though the journalist he was speaking to for some reason did not see the need to further prod this startling admission.

Why is this startling? Because if there was significant disparity in the success rate for voter registration between the bedrock counties of the two leading candidates, the opinion polls may differ significantly from the reality on the ground.


2. Turnout. Turnout. T-U-R-N-O-U-T. Even when they talk about it, the pollsters are tucking any mention of this critical factor deep in the heart of their reports. The politicians obviously understand its importance but still, the pollsters should yell this from every rooftop they can find. For instance, ff one side manages 85% average turnout in its strongholds and the other does a 65% average, the game is over.


If there is going to be chaos in Kenya, my view is that it is these two factors that may likely precipitate massive disenchantment among the loser's supporters, lend credence to rigging claims (a gap much larger than the opinion polls predicted) and throw the credibility of the elections into question (never mind that this will be a matter of perception).
All my friends are heathens, take it slow. Wait for them to ask you who you know. Please don't make any sudden moves.
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