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Housing Finance: HFCK a diamond in the rough
sparkly
#461 Posted : Thursday, February 21, 2013 3:59:56 PM
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obiero wrote:
guru267 wrote:
techboy wrote:
guru267 wrote:
techboy wrote:
well my thinking is that the good results have already been factored in so buying now you are just chasing price ! and thats a very dangerous thing to do !


HF had a terrible 2012.. There will be nothing good in those results!


i keep wondering who do you think you are that you go against the market trend .the stock stock rallied over 30% for no apparent reason ????? i really do and until you answer that please deny yourself the embarrassment and whip out a chart and trade with the market ...
those results FY'12. were more than i expected !


The profits were down -7%... Isn't that in line with what I predicted (-25% - 0%)??

I don't get what you are shouting about @qw!

hahaha @guru267. is @techboy really @qw in disguise? iv noticed their dialog does appear strangely similar. nimecheka yangu yote!!!


@guru knows, there is a love/hate tension between them #crush?

We are still in Feb, the month of love, it can be salvaged.
Life is short. Live passionately.
obiero
#462 Posted : Thursday, February 21, 2013 4:21:46 PM
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sparkly wrote:
S.Mutaga III wrote:
Having left this mbus at ksh 20,I may start buying again at Ksh 16 and average down systematically henceforth...am loving this counter


Turning over will dilute your profits. I belief the stock is worth >30, so i will wait for Mr.Market to give me that price.

@sparkly. u are right. tunawesmake!

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
Aguytrying
#463 Posted : Thursday, February 21, 2013 6:19:13 PM
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obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
S.Mutaga III wrote:
Having left this mbus at ksh 20,I may start buying again at Ksh 16 and average down systematically henceforth...am loving this counter


Turning over will dilute your profits. I belief the stock is worth >30, so i will wait for Mr.Market to give me that price.

@sparkly. u are right. tunawesmake!


nituazia kamtu at 50.00 next year.
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
ChessMaster
#464 Posted : Thursday, February 21, 2013 6:27:18 PM
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mwanahisa wrote:
S.Mutaga III wrote:
Having left this mbus at ksh 20,I may start buying again at Ksh 16 and average down systematically henceforth...am loving this counter

Interesting sentiments. I normally start buying after a 10% pullback and was out fishing today. It will be interesting to see if it can go down a further 15% for a total 25% decline from its recent high. Of course anything is possible! If it does, I will raise my stake even more. I am sitting on this one through 2013, but of course with some strategic selling points and buyback levels, through the period.


This is my interpretation of what I saw today.People are picking it up thus the price isn't dropping so fast or hard.Sellers might see this trend and hold out.
Uncertainty is certain.Let go
obiero
#465 Posted : Wednesday, February 27, 2013 9:57:50 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
S.Mutaga III wrote:
Having left this mbus at ksh 20,I may start buying again at Ksh 16 and average down systematically henceforth...am loving this counter


Turning over will dilute your profits. I belief the stock is worth >30, so i will wait for Mr.Market to give me that price.

@sparkly. u are right. tunawesmake!


nituazia kamtu at 50.00 next year.

tomorrow we are back to KES 20.00 per share having shaken off nearly all the small timers who hold less than 10,000 shares. this stock excites me

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
mwekez@ji
#466 Posted : Wednesday, February 27, 2013 10:06:20 PM
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Posts: 5,121
obiero wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
S.Mutaga III wrote:
Having left this mbus at ksh 20,I may start buying again at Ksh 16 and average down systematically henceforth...am loving this counter


Turning over will dilute your profits. I belief the stock is worth >30, so i will wait for Mr.Market to give me that price.

@sparkly. u are right. tunawesmake!


nituazia kamtu at 50.00 next year.

tomorrow we are back to KES 20.00 per share having shaken off nearly all the small timers who hold less than 10,000 shares. this stock excites me


c20% of HFCK shares are in the hands of those small timers who hold less than 10,000 shares. what informs you that they have been shaken off¿
obiero
#467 Posted : Thursday, February 28, 2013 6:54:30 AM
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Location: nairobi
mwekez@ji wrote:
obiero wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
S.Mutaga III wrote:
Having left this mbus at ksh 20,I may start buying again at Ksh 16 and average down systematically henceforth...am loving this counter


Turning over will dilute your profits. I belief the stock is worth >30, so i will wait for Mr.Market to give me that price.

@sparkly. u are right. tunawesmake!


nituazia kamtu at 50.00 next year.

tomorrow we are back to KES 20.00 per share having shaken off nearly all the small timers who hold less than 10,000 shares. this stock excites me


c20% of HFCK shares are in the hands of those small timers who hold less than 10,000 shares. what informs you that they have been shaken off¿

the spike in volumes over last few weeks were not institutional sellers. could it be equity or nssf that was selling? ua guess is as good as mine

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
mwanahisa
#468 Posted : Thursday, February 28, 2013 9:13:11 AM
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From yesterday's price action on HF, we are certainly back in business. I am looking forward to a 10% payoff from the shares I bottom fished only last week.

However, the longer term story is even more compelling. An EPS in the range of 4/= for this counter this year is NOT OUT of the question. With a DPS of 1.50 to 2.00, your guess is as good as mine as to where the price could go.

cnn wrote:
mwanahisa wrote:
S.Mutaga III wrote:
Having left this mbus at ksh 20,I may start buying again at Ksh 16 and average down systematically henceforth...am loving this counter

Interesting sentiments. I normally start buying after a 10% pullback and was out fishing today. It will be interesting to see if it can go down a further 15% for a total 25% decline from its recent high. Of course anything is possible! If it does, I will raise my stake even more. I am sitting on this one through 2013, but of course with some strategic selling points and buyback levels, through the period.

It appears we are many on the prowl..the 8% dividend will do for now ..the rest Mr market will decide in due time.

mlennyma
#469 Posted : Thursday, February 28, 2013 9:18:43 AM
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My target exit 60bob..dec.2014 or earlier if politics are favourable
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
Aguytrying
#470 Posted : Thursday, February 28, 2013 10:31:13 AM
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Posts: 5,040
mwanahisa wrote:
From yesterday's price action on HF, we are certainly back in business. I am looking forward to a 10% payoff from the shares I bottom fished only last week.

However, the longer term story is even more compelling. An EPS in the range of 4/= for this counter this year is NOT OUT of the question. With a DPS of 1.50 to 2.00, your guess is as good as mine as to where the price could go.

cnn wrote:
mwanahisa wrote:
S.Mutaga III wrote:
Having left this mbus at ksh 20,I may start buying again at Ksh 16 and average down systematically henceforth...am loving this counter

Interesting sentiments. I normally start buying after a 10% pullback and was out fishing today. It will be interesting to see if it can go down a further 15% for a total 25% decline from its recent high. Of course anything is possible! If it does, I will raise my stake even more. I am sitting on this one through 2013, but of course with some strategic selling points and buyback levels, through the period.

It appears we are many on the prowl..the 8% dividend will do for now ..the rest Mr market will decide in due time.



I'll end tell you where its going.

30.00 end 2013, 40-50 end 2014.
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
kazee
#471 Posted : Friday, March 01, 2013 12:02:06 PM
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obiero wrote:
@all. last chance to get on the bus. we are changing a punctured tyre and soon we shall back on the road, speeding towards profits



Another tyre change today or our way down starts now? Anyone with visibility on demand/supply on this counter today? Richlive appears unavailable
mwekez@ji
#472 Posted : Friday, March 01, 2013 12:26:44 PM
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Joined: 5/31/2011
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obiero wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
obiero wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
S.Mutaga III wrote:
Having left this mbus at ksh 20,I may start buying again at Ksh 16 and average down systematically henceforth...am loving this counter


Turning over will dilute your profits. I belief the stock is worth >30, so i will wait for Mr.Market to give me that price.

@sparkly. u are right. tunawesmake!


nituazia kamtu at 50.00 next year.

tomorrow we are back to KES 20.00 per share having shaken off nearly all the small timers who hold less than 10,000 shares. this stock excites me


c20% of HFCK shares are in the hands of those small timers who hold less than 10,000 shares. what informs you that they have been shaken off¿

the spike in volumes over last few weeks were not institutional sellers. could it be equity or nssf that was selling? ua guess is as good as mine


I see exit volume at 20 followed by panic selling. Panic selling seems to be over now ... on shareholders profile, am almost certain that wanjiku is still big in this counter, prove me wrong

mwekez@ji
#473 Posted : Friday, March 01, 2013 12:30:39 PM
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kazee wrote:
obiero wrote:
@all. last chance to get on the bus. we are changing a punctured tyre and soon we shall back on the road, speeding towards profits



Another tyre change today or our way down starts now? Anyone with visibility on demand/supply on this counter today? Richlive appears unavailable


BIDS 157,100
Quantity Price Splits Time
5,900 19.75 1 12:27:37
1,400 19.55 1 12:27:37
7,000 19.50 1 12:27:37
300 19.40 1 12:27:37
30,400 19.30 2 12:27:37
ASKS 32,000
Quantity Price Splits Time
16,700 20.00 6 12:27:37
500 20.25 1 12:27:37
12,300 20.50 4 12:27:37
2,500 21.00 1 12:27:37
- - - -
TRADES
Quantity Price Time
1,000 19.75 12:27:36
1,000 19.75 12:00:28
5,000 19.75 11:44:50
3,000 19.40 11:16:05
2,000 19.50 11:16:05
kazee
#474 Posted : Friday, March 01, 2013 12:51:58 PM
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Thanks @mwekezaji. Mind sharing a link to your source? If it is free that is smile
mwekez@ji
#475 Posted : Friday, March 01, 2013 1:23:08 PM
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kazee wrote:
Thanks @mwekezaji. Mind sharing a link to your source? If it is free that is smile


Karibu. ... on the source, unfortunately its no free
obiero
#476 Posted : Thursday, March 07, 2013 9:44:57 PM
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QW25091985 wrote:
All stocks in a bull market thats just starting up are "diamond in the rough" lol. Yep that includes olympia and ak

I honestly miss this character..

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
Aguytrying
#477 Posted : Friday, March 08, 2013 5:25:01 AM
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obiero wrote:
QW25091985 wrote:
All stocks in a bull market thats just starting up are "diamond in the rough" lol. Yep that includes olympia and ak

I honestly miss this character..


back as techboy...

HFCK past 20.00, it will soon join equity in the 30's. just a matter of time. because it has higher div yeild, similar eps.
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
FUNKY
#478 Posted : Friday, March 08, 2013 8:45:57 AM
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Aguytrying
#479 Posted : Friday, March 08, 2013 9:42:59 AM
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FUNKY wrote:
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/Britam-tightens-grip-on-Housing-Finance/-/539550/1714226/-/qk1a4t/-/index.html


Amazing stuff, siuzi my shares ever. EQTY an BRIT must have BIG plans for the diamond.
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
mwekez@ji
#480 Posted : Friday, March 08, 2013 9:56:05 AM
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Aguytrying wrote:
FUNKY wrote:
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/Britam-tightens-grip-on-Housing-Finance/-/539550/1714226/-/qk1a4t/-/index.html


Amazing stuff, siuzi my shares ever. EQTY an BRIT must have BIG plans for the diamond.


smile I expect BRIT to keep buying upto the time they'll get to 25% maximum allowed shareholding threshold
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