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sl8r
#1 Posted : Tuesday, February 19, 2013 8:41:37 PM
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SOOOO,
I was thinking, is it viable to trade in options and derivatives on this here NSE. My understanding is that the Johannesburg Stock exchange does so, albeit its 400+ listings compared to the NSE's about 50, however I think the market here is speculative enough to engage in this....

what do you all think??
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maka
#2 Posted : Tuesday, February 19, 2013 8:54:35 PM
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sl8r wrote:
SOOOO,
I was thinking, is it viable to trade in options and derivatives on this here NSE. My understanding is that the Johannesburg Stock exchange does so, albeit its 400+ listings compared to the NSE's about 50, however I think the market here is speculative enough to engage in this....

what do you all think??

...bado we still havent got the right structures to implement options and derivatives trading...trading in equities and fixed income is still a mess we need to sort that out first.
possunt quia posse videntur
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sl8r
#3 Posted : Wednesday, February 20, 2013 1:28:04 PM
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so you suggest a change in framework perhaps in order have this kind of trading in place. What structures need to be changed??
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Pick n Pay
#4 Posted : Wednesday, February 20, 2013 1:33:02 PM
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The perfect way to lose your money - options & derivatives
Greed is fear.
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ChessMaster
#5 Posted : Wednesday, February 20, 2013 1:40:04 PM
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Pick n Pay wrote:
The perfect way to lose your money - options & derivatives


Why do you think so?
Uncertainty is certain.Let go
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Pick n Pay
#6 Posted : Wednesday, February 20, 2013 1:52:45 PM
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Because no one understands these products. This is what caused the financial crisis in the US that spread around the world.
Greed is fear.
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ChessMaster
#7 Posted : Wednesday, February 20, 2013 2:01:35 PM
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Pick n Pay wrote:
Because no one understands these products. This is what caused the financial crisis in the US that spread around the world.


Some people do because there were some who kept saying the bubble was going to burst.But I like that they are complicated,means if you are knowledgeable you can reap profits easily.
Uncertainty is certain.Let go
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Pick n Pay
#8 Posted : Wednesday, February 20, 2013 2:10:39 PM
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ChessMaster wrote:
Pick n Pay wrote:
Because no one understands these products. This is what caused the financial crisis in the US that spread around the world.


Some people do because there were some who kept saying the bubble was going to burst.But I like that they are complicated,means if you are knowledgeable you can reap profits easily.


When l clock a billion ie when l can be able to take a financial hit, l will try this. Even Merrill Lynch (the creators of this products) only made money by hyping these complex products to their clients and then betting they would fail, and fail they did. Bankers made money. Investors lost.
Greed is fear.
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ChessMaster
#9 Posted : Wednesday, February 20, 2013 2:15:59 PM
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Pick n Pay wrote:
ChessMaster wrote:
Pick n Pay wrote:
Because no one understands these products. This is what caused the financial crisis in the US that spread around the world.


Some people do because there were some who kept saying the bubble was going to burst.But I like that they are complicated,means if you are knowledgeable you can reap profits easily.


When l clock a billion ie when l can be able to take a financial hit, l will try this. Even Merrill Lynch (the creators of this products) only made money by hyping these complex products to their clients and then betting they would fail, and fail they did. Bankers made money. Investors lost.


It was all in the the formula they used to structure their products.Any investor who could do some fundamental analysis could see its faulty. But that's another thing why would you buy something that the bankers/sellers are betting against.
Uncertainty is certain.Let go
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Pick n Pay
#10 Posted : Wednesday, February 20, 2013 2:21:46 PM
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ChessMaster wrote:
Pick n Pay wrote:
ChessMaster wrote:
Pick n Pay wrote:
Because no one understands these products. This is what caused the financial crisis in the US that spread around the world.


Some people do because there were some who kept saying the bubble was going to burst.But I like that they are complicated,means if you are knowledgeable you can reap profits easily.


When l clock a billion ie when l can be able to take a financial hit, l will try this. Even Merrill Lynch (the creators of this products) only made money by hyping these complex products to their clients and then betting they would fail, and fail they did. Bankers made money. Investors lost.


It was all in the the formula they used to structure their products.Any investor who could do some fundamental analysis could see its faulty. But that's another thing why would you buy something that the bankers/sellers are betting against.


Bankers bet against their clients secretly. When the party was over, they dumped the product. Unfortunately, that is the time some banks around the world, especially in Germany, were stocking up these products in their books.

However, if you feel you can handle the heat, by all means, go right ahead.
Greed is fear.
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