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Help Defrauded of Kshs 2m
tassia
#1 Posted : Wednesday, February 06, 2013 10:52:17 AM
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I went into partnership with someone and we started having problems when the business started to pick up. After some chaotic encounters, the brother of the partner offered to help and he infact helped and I collected some goods and we agreed that the balance would be collected in January when they would arrive from overseas. Since, it was late, we agreed that I would approach a lawyer the following morning to document what we had agreed the following morning.

When I took it back, it was never signed and now the brother says he cannot help because he depends on my former business partner and things have turned very bad for him since the day he helped me.

I am not ready to waste my time in court. Any suggestions of some guys who can help with private investigation and who are not expensive to trace some information I am looking for so that I can act?
ChessMaster
#2 Posted : Wednesday, February 06, 2013 11:00:37 AM
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First of all,I'm not a lawyer.Just suggestions.Follow the money trail,if goods were moved somebody paid for them.Be in contact with your lawyer as much as possible.Don't take any money they give you back in portions because if you decide to go to court afterwards they'll take it as a civil case.I hope wazua lawyers will come and correct me.Sorry for your troubles.
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tassia
#3 Posted : Wednesday, February 06, 2013 11:15:27 AM
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Thank you ChessMaster. I will consider your input as I await suggestions from others.
anika66
#4 Posted : Friday, February 08, 2013 5:59:49 PM
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tassia wrote:
Thank you ChessMaster. I will consider your input as I await suggestions from others.


First of all did this partnership have any legal basis ama ilikuwa ya kienyeji? Thats the starting point. If it was kienyeji then it complicates things because it may be your word against their word. And why did you not have copies of documents which you now want retrieved secretly. what kind of business was this? I dont know how people conduct business but if you are entering into a partnership involving that kind of money, why not do a formal agreement? This aversion for lawyers is what is causing all these problems in the society. Its advisable you visit a lawyer, pay consultation fee and get good and sound legal advice. First of all your information is scant and cannot provide us with a basis for advising you.
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blueman
#5 Posted : Wednesday, February 13, 2013 5:00:37 PM
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Like @Anika66 says, the info provided here is scanty for us to give informed advice. However, you say you started having problems when business picked up, what problems were these and whose fault was it?If you were at fault, then you should think of apologizing to your partner and asking to mend things. Chances are he may just ask that he gives you your share and you part ways amicably. If it was his fault, then it means you swallowed a bait, he was counting on you leaving because of that disagreement. It also seems he ensured you don't have much evidence to take him to court or he knows you won't take him to court one way or another. So, surprise him. Try to find out some leverage that he did not expect and have your lawyer call him about the charges. See how this plays out.

For better advice, try answering the following questions so wazuans can understand the background:

1. Was the partnership registered?
2. How was handling the transactions?
3. How did you transfer your capital for the business? Did u directly send it to the supplier or did u send it to your partner's bank or was it just cash transfer off the books to your partner?
4. Do you have any email exchanges/sms or phone conversation suggesting you were in partnership?
5. What is your relationship with this person apart from the business?

Answer this, and we can try to help.
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Angelica _ann
#6 Posted : Monday, February 18, 2013 5:25:12 PM
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where is @mawinder?
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
mawinder
#7 Posted : Monday, February 18, 2013 6:21:55 PM
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Let me try even though your information is scanty.you can recover part of the money if you play your cards well and are lucky.Get the little documentation available,look for an advocate who knows which doors to knock in the judiciary preferably some who were purged by Ringeera or the recent ones who lost in the vetting,file a civil suit against the guy.The guy will also get an advocate to defend him.Give his advocate 100k downpayment to lose the case on technicalties and 150k balance after conceding defeat.Your advocate will know how to take care of the magistrate but it is not that simple.
jaggernaut
#8 Posted : Monday, February 18, 2013 6:37:45 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
where is @mawinder?


haha. I expect that he knows some mboys who can (man)handle the jamaa mpaka the money is paid in full plus interest pap!smile
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