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Mental health care
tycho
#1 Posted : Saturday, February 16, 2013 3:36:28 PM
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I have been looking at some of humanity's ideas on mental health, and I am convinced that though mental health is crucial, very little has been done and said about it.

And while this silence ensues, I see evidence of things getting out of hand in our social institutions.

For example, countries deemed as progressive have rising cases of depression and other mental 'ailments', and even in our country there is an increase in domestic violence and murders.

Politicians prefer to wear the masks of militancy.

Neither has Wazua been spared. I am sure a visit to the archives will easily reveal that there are some Wazuans who are thought to be psychos.

I am convinced that our ideas on mental health need to be re-examined.

The connection between sexuality and how we relate with our institutions are taken too casually, and the consequences are deadly.

Our models for conflict resolution also need to be examined.

We need to re-examine our culture and society.

githundi
#2 Posted : Saturday, February 16, 2013 6:59:38 PM
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tycho wrote:
I have been looking at some of humanity's ideas on mental health, and I am convinced that though mental health is crucial, very little has been done and said about it.

And while this silence ensues, I see evidence of things getting out of hand in our social institutions.

For example, countries deemed as progressive have rising cases of depression and other mental 'ailments', and even in our country there is an increase in domestic violence and murders.

Politicians prefer to wear the masks of militancy.

Neither has Wazua been spared. I am sure a visit to the archives will easily reveal that there are some Wazuans who are thought to be psychos.

I am convinced that our ideas on mental health need to be re-examined.

The connection between sexuality and how we relate with our institutions are taken too casually, and the consequences are deadly.

Our models for conflict resolution also need to be examined.

We need to re-examine our culture and society.


i support you. Little attention has been given to patients who suffer from mental illness. The are many people affected, but this subject remains a taboo in most kenyan communitiers. Some cases are mild, yet few try to seek treatment from this.
Democracy does not belong to the dead
ChessMaster
#3 Posted : Saturday, February 16, 2013 7:08:50 PM
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tycho wrote:
I have been looking at some of humanity's ideas on mental health, and I am convinced that though mental health is crucial, very little has been done and said about it.

And while this silence ensues, I see evidence of things getting out of hand in our social institutions.

For example, countries deemed as progressive have rising cases of depression and other mental 'ailments', and even in our country there is an increase in domestic violence and murders.

Politicians prefer to wear the masks of militancy.

Neither has Wazua been spared. I am sure a visit to the archives will easily reveal that there are some Wazuans who are thought to be psychos.

I am convinced that our ideas on mental health need to be re-examined.

The connection between sexuality and how we relate with our institutions are taken too casually, and the consequences are deadly.

Our models for conflict resolution also need to be examined.

We need to re-examine our culture and society.



What I don't get is,why is it that more developed countries suffer from more mental health issues than less developed countries? And when cultures of more developed countries sip into the less developed countries,more mental health cases increase?

But then again talking about mental health is to imply a 'normal' state.What is the normal state? Though I do agree its becoming more and more serious in Kenya.The number of cases of suicide and violent killings is on the rise.I feel like its on the media all the time.
Uncertainty is certain.Let go
Amores
#4 Posted : Saturday, February 16, 2013 7:29:27 PM
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Agree that there has been little attention to mental health issues.
I do not know if any of you remembers the documentary that was done about Mathare hospital. Good thing is that it led to funding to improve both the premises,and practice.

Why do people in western countries have more mental health issues? Well,i believe that one of the reasons is a lack of support system. In Africa fo example,problems are shared,within the family and even extended family. In the west,it is more of man for himself .

There has also been the issue of economic down turn,people are having trouble making heads meets,people are under constant pressure.

What is normal ? "Normal" is; are you in state to carry out your life habits ? Life habits here mean everyday activities - participation
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essyk
#5 Posted : Saturday, February 16, 2013 7:32:24 PM
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tycho wrote:

Neither has Wazua been spared. I am sure a visit to the archives will easily reveal that there are some Wazuans who are thought to be psychos.




Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly PrayPray Pray
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ChessMaster
#6 Posted : Saturday, February 16, 2013 7:40:47 PM
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@Amores - I agree with you,support system is important and to some extent in Africa we have it.Our problem is we stigmatize.

@essyk - Now because of you the whole night I'll have the giggles.
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essyk
#7 Posted : Saturday, February 16, 2013 7:54:10 PM
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WhistleLaughing out loudly.
I love this site cz it makes me laugh so much.
"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
tycho
#8 Posted : Saturday, February 16, 2013 8:44:31 PM
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I have had several physical injuries and ailments in the last say six months, and all of them, I have taken measures to alleviate my situation.

But when I look at my mental health I realize I have very few records on mental injuries.

Could it be that one generally experiences less mental ailments? I have therefore gone around observing and talking to people, and I have found that very many people are suffering.

This has led me to conclude that it is our understanding of mental health that is wanting. We do not even know how to take care of ourselves, mentally.

I'd say mental health is a state of being in which one is pleased with life, and is a source of pleasure to others.

This, is what I understand as 'normal'.
essyk
#9 Posted : Saturday, February 16, 2013 9:01:21 PM
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Quote:
I have had several physical injuries and ailments in the last say six months,


YawaPray Tycho Ask God to daily shield you.

Normal is subjective.

"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
tycho
#10 Posted : Saturday, February 16, 2013 9:24:41 PM
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essyk wrote:
Quote:
I have had several physical injuries and ailments in the last say six months,


YawaPray Tycho Ask God to daily shield you.

Normal is subjective.



What do you mean by 'subjective'? And what does 'normal' mean?

I am very okay. It's only that my dailyi activities cannot preclude some injury.

Mukiri
#11 Posted : Saturday, February 16, 2013 9:35:00 PM
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essyk wrote:
WhistleLaughing out loudly.
I love this site cz it makes me laugh so much.

Why are you laughing and you are a suspect? Being single at your age and opting to have an affair with wazua is not ideal mental health. *Na usinichape na mawe*

I totally concur. Kenya needs a revolution, something akin to the Aids campaign, to remove the stigma associated with mental health and create awareness thus educating the masses.

Wazua is a wonderful forum. Here we educate ourselves disseminate, information. My faith in God, is one thing that does it for me. The total surrender and humility to my creator gives me peace. Alot of peace. The Bible is a wonderful 'manual' by which I try to live my life... easing alot of pressure. I have also just recently discovered the importance of exercise, the beauty of green juice fasting, enemas, eating right(organic) and laughter yoga.

Proverbs 19:21
essyk
#12 Posted : Saturday, February 16, 2013 9:50:30 PM
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Mukiri wrote:

Sasa ona hate speech from Pastor.Wapi mzalendo?
I have repeatedly said that I am Essyk Abdul Aziz.He is in Kabul and I am joining him soon.
Happy Pastor smile

I totally concur. Kenya needs a revolution, something akin to the Aids campaign, to remove the stigma associated with mental health and create awareness thus educating the masses.

Wazua is a wonderful forum. Here we educate ourselves disseminate, information. My faith in God, is one thing that does it for me. The total surrender and humility to my creator gives me peace. Alot of peace. The Bible is a wonderful 'manual' by which I try to live my life... easing alot of pressure. I have also just recently discovered the importance of exercise, the beauty of green juice fasting, enemas, eating right(organic) and laughter yoga.


God + Family + Friends + Principles =Mental Health.
But today I have been physically unwell the whole day.My fingers have been busy typing and reading.
Wazua can bring relief.

Pole Tycho.
"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
Amores
#13 Posted : Saturday, February 16, 2013 9:55:18 PM
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@ mukiri,could you please expound more on the enemas?smile smile
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Mukiri
#14 Posted : Saturday, February 16, 2013 10:40:25 PM
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Amores wrote:
@ mukiri,could you please expound more on the enemas?smile smile

Shame on you Google

Proverbs 19:21
tycho
#15 Posted : Saturday, February 16, 2013 10:41:42 PM
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Thank you @essyk.

I am sorry that your equation on mental health doesn't add up if you don't account for actual behavior and feelings.

I for one, have met many people who claim to have a personal relationship with God, have families and friends but still have suffered from mental health problems. I even know of some who have died due to mental illness while still proclaiming to have the members of your equation.
Mukiri
#16 Posted : Sunday, February 17, 2013 2:34:13 AM
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essyk wrote:
Mukiri wrote:

Sasa ona hate speech from Pastor.Wapi mzalendo?
I have repeatedly said that I am Essyk Abdul Aziz.He is in Kabul and I am joining him soon.
Happy Pastor smile

I totally concur. Kenya needs a revolution, something akin to the Aids campaign, to remove the stigma associated with mental health and create awareness thus educating the masses.

Wazua is a wonderful forum. Here we educate ourselves disseminate, information. My faith in God, is one thing that does it for me. The total surrender and humility to my creator gives me peace. Alot of peace. The Bible is a wonderful 'manual' by which I try to live my life... easing alot of pressure. I have also just recently discovered the importance of exercise, the beauty of green juice fasting, enemas, eating right(organic) and laughter yoga.


God + Family + Friends + Principles =Mental Health.
But today I have been physically unwell the whole day.My fingers have been busy typing and reading.
Wazua can bring relief.

Pole Tycho.

Your equation adds up perfectly, don't believe otherwise. Remember the devil is a liar. Kill, steal and destroy! Read this

Proverbs 19:21
tycho
#17 Posted : Sunday, February 17, 2013 6:59:37 AM
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@Mukiri, and essyk, how then will you reconcile this equation with the many who are suffering?

When you mention God and Principles in the equation, do you imply that they are separate or different?

Where are the neighbors, enemies, workmates, leadership and government, recreation, work and employment?

Does your equation involve pleasure? To who?

How can the equation be used to give mental health care?
Mukiri
#18 Posted : Sunday, February 17, 2013 9:19:14 AM
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If you intend to use your own understanding to figure out this, then you are a fool. God works to His own plan, in His time and according to His own understanding. The Bible is rife with stories of suffering that brought about great things. eg Abraham had to wait years for a child-A generation came forth, Joseph was sold and imprisoned-He became a great ruler, Daniel in a furnace and into a den of lions-came out unscathed, The Lord Jesus Christ, son of God was nailed to a cross-mankind was saved... Someone might have lied to you, that you know something, that you can comprehend things because apparently you can put a verb and noun together... that person is called the devilSad

Proverbs 19:21
tycho
#19 Posted : Sunday, February 17, 2013 11:10:13 AM
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Mukiri wrote:
If you intend to use your own understanding to figure out this, then you are a fool. God works to His own plan, in His time and according to His own understanding. The Bible is rife with stories of suffering that brought about great things. eg Abraham had to wait years for a child-A generation came forth, Joseph was sold and imprisoned-He became a great ruler, Daniel in a furnace and into a den of lions-came out unscathed, The Lord Jesus Christ, son of God was nailed to a cross-mankind was saved... Someone might have lied to you, that you know something, that you can comprehend things because apparently you can put a verb and noun together... that person is called the devilSad


Now I am lost. You say you support a topic, then you turn around and start launching attacks at a person.

Then you turn against the Scripture you are quoting, and invoke the devil.

The Scripture posits that the act of creation involved verbs and nouns, that Man is capable of knowledge and its use, and that God's spirit is of a sound mind.

How then can a Man negate what he so much believes?
tycho
#20 Posted : Sunday, February 17, 2013 11:58:15 AM
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Man, seems to have two selves. The existential self, and the mental self.

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