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IMF: Kenya's economy self reliant, don't need EU
dunkang
#1 Posted : Friday, February 15, 2013 10:49:13 AM
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Head of an International Monetary Fund mission who has been in the country for ten days, Domenico Fanizza, said on Thursday Kenya’s economy is now less dependent on Europe and would not be affected much by actions of Western governments that might include economic sanctions.

As a Nationalist, this is GOOD for me to hear.

KENYA'S ECONOMY DOES NOT NEED EUROPE
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#2 Posted : Friday, February 15, 2013 11:34:40 AM
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Actually, this is what he said:

“Kenya has stayed the course in its economic reforms. Despite the ongoing electoral campaign, the still difficult global conditions, and the high cost of security operations in Somalia, fiscal discipline has been maintained, monetary policy has remained cautious, and structural reforms have progressed. The results have been favorable. Inflationary pressures have been tamed. Economic growth has kept a good pace, notwithstanding the slowdown of exports to and tourism from Europe. International reserves are on the rise, and the current account position has significantly improved – once we exclude capital imports that have surged notably because of oil exploration. The public debt-to-gross domestic product (GDP) ratio has declined, despite the large budgetary costs of implementing the new Constitution, preparing the upcoming elections, and the recent wage increases in the civil service. Financial inclusion is moving fast, providing the opportunity to reach millions of people who until recently did not have access to financial services. Interest rates have started to decline, providing support to economic activity. Rising foreign investment has sustained the strong performance of the stock market.

These results are encouraging, but much remains to be done. Policies need to continue to reduce Kenya’s vulnerabilities in a context of heightened domestic electoral uncertainty and a weak global economic outlook. Therefore, discussions focused on further strengthening the foundations for sustained, higher, and more inclusive growth to improve the living conditions for all Kenyans. In particular:

The mission welcomes the CBK’s continued vigilance in easing its policy stance, closely monitoring inflation expectations and anticipating possible price shocks. Monetary operations should seek to manage liquidity effectively, leading interbank rates to further converge to the central bank policy rate.
The CBK should continue to build up its international reserves to buffer the external position. The mission welcomes the CBK’s commitment to its floating exchange rate regime.
Fiscal policy should remain geared towards lowering the public debt-to-GDP ratio further. Improved expenditure control should allow social and development expenditures to rise, as non-priority spending falls. Revenue mobilization efforts should benefit from the ongoing value-added tax (VAT) audits of large taxpayers, import duty compliance checks, and strengthened verification procedures for excise tax payments. The mission encourages the authorities to implement the Treasury Single Account, build public financial management capacity at the county level, and seek approval of the new VAT Bill by the new National Assembly as soon as possible.
Financial sector stability should be enhanced by new prudential regulations and consolidated supervision of regional banking groups. Deepening of the financial sector should be supported by the demutualization of the Nairobi Stock Exchange, as well as efforts to set up a Real Estate Investment Trust and establish a Futures and a Commodities Exchange.

Source: http://www.imf.org/exter...p/sec/pr/2013/pr1349.htm
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dunkang
#3 Posted : Friday, February 15, 2013 12:06:35 PM
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Nairobi, Kenya: The International
Monetary Fund (IMF) expects the economy to grow at least 5.5 to 6 per cent this year. This is higher compared to an estimated 4.5 to 5 per cent in 2012, assuming the March 4th elections go smoothly, a senior fund official said on Thursday.

“Kenya has stayed the course of its economic reforms and this has worked quite well,” Domenico Fanizza, who has been leading a mission to Kenya under the IMF’s Extended Credit Facility, told a news conference.

He said the presidential election set for March 4 was a risk but said the new Constitution could help the country to go through the election peacefully.

“The 2013 growth forecast is predicated on a smooth election. Given the relative strength of the economy before election, if voting goes without major incidents, I expect investments to pick up,” he said. Kenya could vote in a president accused of crimes against humanity, posing a diplomatic headache for Western capitals and raising the spectre of sanctions.

Fanizza said although it was unclear what foreign governments would do in such a case, the economy could still do well.

“Kenya has continued to grow despite the global economic and financial crises like in the Euro Zone,” Fanizza said, adding the growth was driven by domestic factors.
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#4 Posted : Friday, February 15, 2013 2:10:24 PM
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#5 Posted : Friday, February 15, 2013 2:58:38 PM
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We live in a global economy. Will a Kenyan living in Kibera, Mathari buy flowers instead of food? Go to a five star Hotel instead of their countryside? Will Kenya be able to generate its own foreign reserves without trading with the West? Will Kenya be able to manufacture the manchinery it requires and also export since currently the balance of payments is skewed towards imports? etc etc etc....
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#6 Posted : Friday, February 15, 2013 6:43:35 PM
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erifloss wrote:
We live in a global economy. Will a Kenyan living in Kibera, Mathari buy flowers instead of food? Go to a five star Hotel instead of their countryside? Will Kenya be able to generate its own foreign reserves without trading with the West? Will Kenya be able to manufacture the manchinery it requires and also export since currently the balance of payments is skewed towards imports? etc etc etc....


Smell the coffee brother, the world turned East a few years ago
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dunkang
#7 Posted : Friday, February 15, 2013 6:57:29 PM
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erifloss wrote:
.... since currently the balance of payments is skewed towards imports? etc etc etc....

That skew should mean they need us more than we need them, or thats not how businesses work?
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#8 Posted : Friday, February 15, 2013 7:55:17 PM
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This is Good NEWS!
Lets for once believe in ourselves.
why doubt?
For those of us who know a bit of Britain know for sure they have thousands of white beggars there who can't afford a single meal forget those flowers and hotels!!
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#9 Posted : Friday, February 15, 2013 9:17:59 PM
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Who are Kenya's biggest tax payers that finance our budget?? Isn't it BAT, Vodafone, Diageo, Lafarge?? Isn't it exporters like KQ??

Who are the biggest buyers of CBK bonds?? Isn't it Barclays & Stanchart!

When sanctions hit and the above are banned from operating what exactly will sustain the economy?
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#10 Posted : Friday, February 15, 2013 9:54:26 PM
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guru267 wrote:
Who are Kenya's biggest tax payers that finance our budget?? Isn't it BAT, Vodafone, Diageo, Lafarge?? Isn't it exporters like KQ??

Who are the biggest buyers of CBK bonds?? Isn't it Barclays & Stanchart!

When sanctions hit and the above are banned from operating what exactly will sustain the economy?

Nobody ever talked of sanctions. Nobody can punish Kenyans for exercising their Democratic right freely!
dunkang
#11 Posted : Saturday, February 16, 2013 12:58:42 AM
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guru267 wrote:
Who are Kenya's biggest tax payers that finance our budget?? Isn't it BAT, Vodafone, Diageo, Lafarge?? Isn't it exporters like KQ??

Who are the biggest buyers of CBK bonds?? Isn't it Barclays & Stanchart!

When sanctions hit and the above are banned from operating what exactly will sustain the economy?

So, you are saying BAT, Vodafone, diageo, Lafarge collect taxes from their debt ridden economies and give it to KRA? Only @mahegoat and/or @mukiri can fall for this.

These firms actually milk our economy. Its non-africans like you that live here in Africa and spread your 'white supremacy' nonsense and mental enslavement, fool and corrupt civil servants.
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guru267
#12 Posted : Saturday, February 16, 2013 3:55:06 AM
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dunkang wrote:
So, you are saying BAT, Vodafone, diageo, Lafarge collect taxes from their debt ridden economies and give it to KRA?

These firms actually milk our economy.


@dunkang yes these firms milk our economy but do you see any Kenyans setting up rival firms to compete with these guys??

The fact is reliance is not only about aid.. If their governments ban these guys from operating in Kenya who will fill the gap in taxes & services that will arise??
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#13 Posted : Saturday, February 16, 2013 5:18:58 AM
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guru267 wrote:
dunkang wrote:
So, you are saying BAT, Vodafone, diageo, Lafarge collect taxes from their debt ridden economies and give it to KRA?

These firms actually milk our economy.


@dunkang yes these firms milk our economy but do you see any Kenyans setting up rival firms to compete with these guys??

The fact is reliance is not only about aid.. If their governments ban these guys from operating in Kenya who will fill the gap in taxes & services that will arise??



Kwani this CFA is gotten from River Road? What kind of reasoning is this? So you agree that they are milking our economy dry, but then go ahead to give reasons why they should stay and keep milking us, just so they can pay taxes? RETARDED!!!
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#14 Posted : Saturday, February 16, 2013 6:36:58 AM
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#15 Posted : Saturday, February 16, 2013 7:53:08 AM
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#16 Posted : Saturday, February 16, 2013 8:15:50 AM
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Lolest! wrote:
What does ESSENTIAL CONTACT mean?
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#17 Posted : Saturday, February 16, 2013 8:38:33 AM
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dunkang wrote:
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Head of an International Monetary Fund mission who has been in the country for ten days, Domenico Fanizza, said on Thursday Kenya’s economy is now less dependent on Europe and would not be affected much by actions of Western governments that might include economic sanctions.

As a Nationalist, this is GOOD for me to hear.

KENYA'S ECONOMY DOES NOT NEED EUROPE


I am surprised that your view of the 'Kenyan economy' is so narrowly defined that relations with the EU are considered in the light of presence or absence of sanctions.

Economies and organizations and entrepreneurs in a globalized 'world' are moving more towards market maximization models.

So, we will remain in the nethers if we don't look at the EU as a potential market for products and interpersonal or organization relations.

We shouldn't just follow the Bretton guys without question, for even their analysis of Europe is wanting.
guru267
#18 Posted : Saturday, February 16, 2013 2:55:59 PM
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Nabwire wrote:
guru267 wrote:
dunkang wrote:
So, you are saying BAT, Vodafone, diageo, Lafarge collect taxes from their debt ridden economies and give it to KRA?

These firms actually milk our economy.


@dunkang yes these firms milk our economy but do you see any Kenyans setting up rival firms to compete with these guys??

The fact is reliance is not only about aid.. If their governments ban these guys from operating in Kenya who will fill the gap in taxes & services that will arise??



Kwani this CFA is gotten from River Road? What kind of reasoning is this? So you agree that they are milking our economy dry, but then go ahead to give reasons why they should stay and keep milking us, just so they can pay taxes? RETARDED!!!


@Nabwire Economics 101: GOK has a budget that is sustained by taxes and borrowing... Currently taxes sustain about 75% - 80% of the budget leaving 20% -25% for borrowing... This was probably why the team thinks Kenya is self sustaining!

But I was merely pointing out that the biggest tax payers are foreign multinationals & our dear exporters and the biggest lenders to GOK are foreign banks!

Lets not even go into how the clothes on our backs are imported!
Lets not even go into how you will not be able to send money home!

The big question is who finances the budget when they leave??
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the deal
#19 Posted : Saturday, February 16, 2013 5:06:50 PM
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Kenya can't survive without the EU.

1. 24.1% of Kenyan exports go to the EU i.e Horticulture, Maize, Tobacco, Tea and Coffee. Other big export markets include the US which are likely to follow what ever other western governments decide.

2. 15% of Kenya's budget is financed by western government in the form of AID.

So what will happen if sanctions come along

1. Kenya's exports will tumble resulting in massive lay offs and widening of the current account deficit...you will have a scenario where forex reserves are not able to cater even for oil imports...long ques at petrol stations will be an order.

2. The KES will tumble as business rush to buy any dollars on the market to cover themselves...considering limited support in term of dollar inflows from exports i.e coffee...the CBK will not be able to defend the KES.

3. Stagflation will follow. Hyperinflation+massive unemployment+sliding economy=Stagflation. Kenyan assets will be devalued...you saw what happened in 2011 when inflation went to 20%...both the equities and the bond markets tanked...by then SBB's will not be able to save local banks...the contagion means they disappear into oblivion.

4. Government revenues will take a hit...resulting in a "twin deficit"...you expect GoK to print money at that stage just to pay workers salary...but KES100,0000 will get you nothing at that stage...so a KES1,000,000,000 note will be introduced, by then there will be massive street protests...as people realize they need something to eat.

5. Last straw...Dollarisation! With Dollarisation comes its challenges i.e GoK wont be able to raise money through T-Bills etc...so GoK remains as broke as ever.

GUESS WHAT THE WORLD BANK WILL NEVER BE THERE TO SAVE KENYA...AFTER ALL THIS BLOODY BRETTON WOODS ORGANISATIONS ARE WESTERN MACHINES OF SLAVERY...LOOK AT WHAT THEY HAVE DONE TO MALAWI.

The NSE will be at 0-2000...that's when @thedeal will comeback and say...pride and ignorance does not pay..half of Wazuans will never want to talk about the NSE or hear the word sanctions.smile

So vote wisely!
the deal
#20 Posted : Saturday, February 16, 2013 5:50:22 PM
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FACT: Show me which economy have the IMF/World Bank saved? This bloody agents of poverty are screwing economies world over...from Argentina to Malawi now Kenya...this agents can't even save their own countries (Euro zone) how do you expect them to help you? The IMF should stop playing politics in Kenya. RAO might be socialist...it doesnt mean they start telling lies.
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