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Rank: Member Joined: 1/16/2010 Posts: 672 Location: nairobi
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jguru wrote:mjuaji wa stocks wrote:I rarely agree with impunity but here he has a point.
I am in the medical world and any time; i better go to shugs and take Oleparrmunyo for my flu than buy conventional antihistamines.
Our traditional way of raising our children is far much better than this westernized way.
And am sure by now the complainants baby but have been injected several vaccines - i then ask; do this vaccines help?? I tend to think they may in the contrary lower our immunity instead.
Surely; from 1 month ukianza kudungwa ma shindano; is there any room left for natural immunity to develop?
It is a conspiracy well known world wide to reduce the world's population to 500m people - call me a conspiracy theorist - but that is a fact.
If you dont believe; ask obama and co wakupe certificates of immunization of their children .... Acheni mchezo --- let the children grow naturally!
Mjuaji, sijui niseme?  Strange. You are in the "medical world" and you think vaccines are a conspiracy. In the first 9 months of life of a child, after immunization, their bodies will have the immunity to fight TB, Polio, Diphtheria, Pertusis (Whooping Cough), Tetanus, Hepatitis B, Haemphilus Influenza and Measles. If the world's children did not receive immunizations, very few of us would be around to enjoy this world. And yes, immunizations happen in every country, including the US. Sample this: "In the US, before 1963, more than 3 million cases of measles and 500 deaths from measles were reported each year. More than 90% of children had measles by age 15. In 2002, there were 44 cases of measles." In 2011, there were a total of 222 measles cases. (US Population: 311 million people) "In the US, before 1985, Haemophilus Influenzae caused serious infections in 20,000 children each year, including meningitis (12,000 cases) and pneumonia (7,500 cases). In 2002, there were 34 cases of Hib disease." A vaccine is supposed to create artificial immunity .... but why do people still get flus anf colds even after vaccines? I know what i am saying .... and why do all vaccines contain thiomersal? google its use in vaccines and side effects vs its use in U.S and EU. Dont ignore facts! God gave me the power to make wealth ... Blessed the work of my hands & enabled be A SELF MADE BILLIONAIRE ...... TO GOD THE FATHER OF MY LORD JESUS CHRIST; BE THE GLORY NOW & FOREVER MORE!
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 3/13/2010 Posts: 32 Location: UK
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The question to you is why you felt that you needed to consult a doctor when the child had only coughed for a couple of days. Is this commonly done in Nairobi? I'm a physician and have an 18 month old daughter who has had 2 or 3 colds which we have let her fight naturally and she has come through without any problems. In Leeds, where I live, and the rest of the UK for that matter, no doctor would give you any treatment for the illness you describe. It is self limiting. In other words it will stop by itself.
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 3/13/2010 Posts: 32 Location: UK
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@mjuaji wa stocks. You don't know what you're on about which is particularly worrying given the fact that you claim to be in the medical world. Having said that so could a medical secretary, hospital porter or any assortment of people who work in hospitals. Putting up random figures from the internet means nothing and unfortunately could mislead some people into making wrong decisions.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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metabolist wrote:@mjuaji wa stocks. You don't know what you're on about which is particularly worrying given the fact that you claim to be in the medical world. Having said that so could a medical secretary, hospital porter or any assortment of people who work in hospitals. Putting up random figures from the internet means nothing and unfortunately could mislead some people into making wrong decisions.  Exactment!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,331 Location: Masada
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metabolist wrote:The question to you is why you felt that you needed to consult a doctor when the child had only coughed for a couple of days. Is this commonly done in Nairobi? I'm a physician and have an 18 month old daughter who has had 2 or 3 colds which we have let her fight naturally and she has come through without any problems. In Leeds, where I live, and the rest of the UK for that matter, no doctor would give you any treatment for the illness you describe. It is self limiting. In other words it will stop by itself. Parents of Nairobi take it too much when it comes to raising a child. When a child is bitten by an ant they rush to Agha Khan emergency wing for operation; when a child coughs when milk slightly gets into the windpipe they rush him to Nairobi hospital...the child has no time to develop own immunity. They also spend a half of their income to take their child to Brookhouse school, the shaod is picked right from the doorstep and dropped there in the evening, the child is so weak coz he is not allowed to even walk to a school 100 metres away to develop his foot muscles. I am sorry but we are raising a generation of zombies!!! Portfolio: Sold
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/2/2011 Posts: 176
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Impunity wrote:metabolist wrote:The question to you is why you felt that you needed to consult a doctor when the child had only coughed for a couple of days. Is this commonly done in Nairobi? I'm a physician and have an 18 month old daughter who has had 2 or 3 colds which we have let her fight naturally and she has come through without any problems. In Leeds, where I live, and the rest of the UK for that matter, no doctor would give you any treatment for the illness you describe. It is self limiting. In other words it will stop by itself. Parents of Nairobi take it too much when it comes to raising a child. When a child is bitten by an ant they rush to Agha Khan emergency wing for operation; when a child coughs when milk slightly gets into the windpipe they rush him to Nairobi hospital...the child has no time to develop own immunity. They also spend a half of their income to take their child to Brookhouse school, the shaod is picked right from the doorstep and dropped there in the evening, the child is so weak coz he is not allowed to even walk to a school 100 metres away to develop his foot muscles. I am sorry but we are raising a generation of zombies!!! impunity 
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/25/2007 Posts: 1,574
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mjuaji wa stocks wrote:jguru wrote:mjuaji wa stocks wrote:I rarely agree with impunity but here he has a point.
I am in the medical world and any time; i better go to shugs and take Oleparrmunyo for my flu than buy conventional antihistamines.
Our traditional way of raising our children is far much better than this westernized way.
And am sure by now the complainants baby but have been injected several vaccines - i then ask; do this vaccines help?? I tend to think they may in the contrary lower our immunity instead.
Surely; from 1 month ukianza kudungwa ma shindano; is there any room left for natural immunity to develop?
It is a conspiracy well known world wide to reduce the world's population to 500m people - call me a conspiracy theorist - but that is a fact.
If you dont believe; ask obama and co wakupe certificates of immunization of their children .... Acheni mchezo --- let the children grow naturally!
Mjuaji, sijui niseme? Strange. You are in the "medical world" and you think vaccines are a conspiracy. In the first 9 months of life of a child, after immunization, their bodies will have the immunity to fight TB, Polio, Diphtheria, Pertusis (Whooping Cough), Tetanus, Hepatitis B, Haemphilus Influenza and Measles. If the world's children did not receive immunizations, very few of us would be around to enjoy this world. And yes, immunizations happen in every country, including the US. Sample this: "In the US, before 1963, more than 3 million cases of measles and 500 deaths from measles were reported each year. More than 90% of children had measles by age 15. In 2002, there were 44 cases of measles." In 2011, there were a total of 222 measles cases. (US Population: 311 million people) "In the US, before 1985, Haemophilus Influenzae caused serious infections in 20,000 children each year, including meningitis (12,000 cases) and pneumonia (7,500 cases). In 2002, there were 34 cases of Hib disease." A vaccine is supposed to create artificial immunity .... but why do people still get flus anf colds even after vaccines? I know what i am saying .... and why do all vaccines contain thiomersal? google its use in vaccines and side effects vs its use in U.S and EU. Dont ignore facts! Mjuaji, let me ask you. Do you have children? Have you taken them for immunizations and vaccinations? Yes or No? Set out to correct the world's wrongs and you will most certainly wind up adding to them.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/28/2006 Posts: 1,799
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jguru wrote:mjuaji wa stocks wrote:jguru wrote:mjuaji wa stocks wrote:I rarely agree with impunity but here he has a point.
I am in the medical world and any time; i better go to shugs and take Oleparrmunyo for my flu than buy conventional antihistamines.
Our traditional way of raising our children is far much better than this westernized way.
And am sure by now the complainants baby but have been injected several vaccines - i then ask; do this vaccines help?? I tend to think they may in the contrary lower our immunity instead.
Surely; from 1 month ukianza kudungwa ma shindano; is there any room left for natural immunity to develop?
It is a conspiracy well known world wide to reduce the world's population to 500m people - call me a conspiracy theorist - but that is a fact.
If you dont believe; ask obama and co wakupe certificates of immunization of their children .... Acheni mchezo --- let the children grow naturally!
Mjuaji, sijui niseme? Strange. You are in the "medical world" and you think vaccines are a conspiracy. In the first 9 months of life of a child, after immunization, their bodies will have the immunity to fight TB, Polio, Diphtheria, Pertusis (Whooping Cough), Tetanus, Hepatitis B, Haemphilus Influenza and Measles. If the world's children did not receive immunizations, very few of us would be around to enjoy this world. And yes, immunizations happen in every country, including the US. Sample this: "In the US, before 1963, more than 3 million cases of measles and 500 deaths from measles were reported each year. More than 90% of children had measles by age 15. In 2002, there were 44 cases of measles." In 2011, there were a total of 222 measles cases. (US Population: 311 million people) "In the US, before 1985, Haemophilus Influenzae caused serious infections in 20,000 children each year, including meningitis (12,000 cases) and pneumonia (7,500 cases). In 2002, there were 34 cases of Hib disease." A vaccine is supposed to create artificial immunity .... but why do people still get flus anf colds even after vaccines? I know what i am saying .... and why do all vaccines contain thiomersal? google its use in vaccines and side effects vs its use in U.S and EU. Dont ignore facts! Mjuaji, let me ask you. Do you have children? Have you taken them for immunizations and vaccinations? Yes or No? maybe ako kwa ile dini ya wale watu wa naivasha who dont believe in medicine... only god cures...
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/27/2012 Posts: 320
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mjuaji wa stocks wrote:Impunity wrote:ZZE123 wrote:@ Elder – am currently hosting a relative who is a Nurse from abroad and when she saw the drugs she raised the alarm
@ Robbinhood – He is my Second Born. Been lucky with my first born as she has rarely needed to visit doctors
@MC – Yes I have heard things about the drugs and I heard them this morning.
For the record I have nothing against Gertrude’s and just want to hear the opinion of Doctors or Pharmacists in the house.
Peleka mtoto aishi ushago kama Murang'a valley hivi, aliwe na jiggers huku na huko matakoni until he reaches 5 years then bring him to the city. You will never regret for the natural immunity he will develop from the rural set-up. My parents never regretted for raising me that way, whereas my friend who was raised in the former posh Parklands is a shadow of myself; both of us are middle aged adults now! You can bank this proven theory in the UNAITAS Githurai branch or throw it in Nairobi dam. I rarely agree with impunity but here he has a point. I am in the medical world and any time; i better go to shugs and take Oleparrmunyo for my flu than buy conventional antihistamines. Our traditional way of raising our children is far much better than this westernized way. And am sure by now the complainants baby but have been injected several vaccines - i then ask; do this vaccines help?? I tend to think they may in the contrary lower our immunity instead. Surely; from 1 month ukianza kudungwa ma shindano; is there any room left for natural immunity to develop? It is a conspiracy well known world wide to reduce the world's population to 500m people - call me a conspiracy theorist - but that is a fact. If you dont believe; ask obama and co wakupe certificates of immunization of their children .... Acheni mchezo --- let the children grow naturally! Thats the way to go. When I have a cold and or cough I chew good old tangawizi (and wince a lot while chewing). The cold and cough does not last till evening. If some people are too posh to use such natural things that is taabu zao. Light Bearer
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,331 Location: Masada
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Annti_Christy wrote:mjuaji wa stocks wrote:Impunity wrote:ZZE123 wrote:@ Elder – am currently hosting a relative who is a Nurse from abroad and when she saw the drugs she raised the alarm
@ Robbinhood – He is my Second Born. Been lucky with my first born as she has rarely needed to visit doctors
@MC – Yes I have heard things about the drugs and I heard them this morning.
For the record I have nothing against Gertrude’s and just want to hear the opinion of Doctors or Pharmacists in the house.
Peleka mtoto aishi ushago kama Murang'a valley hivi, aliwe na jiggers huku na huko matakoni until he reaches 5 years then bring him to the city. You will never regret for the natural immunity he will develop from the rural set-up. My parents never regretted for raising me that way, whereas my friend who was raised in the former posh Parklands is a shadow of myself; both of us are middle aged adults now! You can bank this proven theory in the UNAITAS Githurai branch or throw it in Nairobi dam. I rarely agree with impunity but here he has a point. I am in the medical world and any time; i better go to shugs and take Oleparrmunyo for my flu than buy conventional antihistamines. Our traditional way of raising our children is far much better than this westernized way. And am sure by now the complainants baby but have been injected several vaccines - i then ask; do this vaccines help?? I tend to think they may in the contrary lower our immunity instead. Surely; from 1 month ukianza kudungwa ma shindano; is there any room left for natural immunity to develop? It is a conspiracy well known world wide to reduce the world's population to 500m people - call me a conspiracy theorist - but that is a fact. If you dont believe; ask obama and co wakupe certificates of immunization of their children .... Acheni mchezo --- let the children grow naturally! Thats the way to go. When I have a cold and or cough I chew good old tangawizi (and wince a lot while chewing). The cold and cough does not last till evening. If some people are too posh to use such natural things that is taabu zao. People like taking drugs. Its drugs drugs drugs and more DRUGS. Portfolio: Sold
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