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Much Know wrote:
8. Uhuru ((98%) firm grasp on issues (with ready solutions) Introduced himself as a Kenyan family man, paying due homage to the Key institution, the home. ranging from cattle rustling to education to national healing, tribalism, raising funds and the 2007 election. His idea to enrich pastoralism by enhancing their range management skills won me over, we can make pastrolist rich without really commercializing ranching, a pro-green idea. Pleaded his case for leadership sincerely with the people. Good oratory, confident stature and talked directly to the audience/interviewers.
There was a question during the debate from Linus about how UK plans to govern with ICC cases trailing him. What is the PLAN if he cared to answer? Like if parliament passes a bill when he's still out there,how will he be assenting them? How about chairing cabinet and national security committees? Protocol issues when travelling for the hearings? @Much Know, Please share that the answer the high scoring presidential candidate gave.
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mkeiyd wrote:Much Know wrote:
8. Uhuru ((98%) firm grasp on issues (with ready solutions) Introduced himself as a Kenyan family man, paying due homage to the Key institution, the home. ranging from cattle rustling to education to national healing, tribalism, raising funds and the 2007 election. His idea to enrich pastoralism by enhancing their range management skills won me over, we can make pastrolist rich without really commercializing ranching, a pro-green idea. Pleaded his case for leadership sincerely with the people. Good oratory, confident stature and talked directly to the audience/interviewers.
There was a question during the debate from Linus about how UK plans to govern with ICC cases trailing him. What is the PLAN if he cared to answer? Like if parliament passes a bill when he's still out there,how will he be assenting them? How about chairing cabinet and national security committees? Protocol issues when travelling for the hearings? @Much Know, Please share that the answer the high scoring presidential candidate gave. I have stated this here many times, what kind of logic would lead a democratically elected president to continue attending to Hague if you ask yourself that question? Even from ICC perspective, why? Have you not heard various candidates asking that this cases be brought back home? Do you think this cannot be done once UK is president? The fact is that UK cannot state the obvious/most logical route if he is elected publicly in such a debate because it will cause unnecessary confusion amongst wanjikus who do not understand the whole process around ICC. Some, even here in wazua wrongly believe ICC is a "Superior International Court", trying to explain to the public this elements is next to impossible hence the stance that after election , "i will continue to clear my name", he will do this but believe me, not from Hague. Ras Kienyeji Man
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Much Know wrote:mkeiyd wrote:Much Know wrote:
8. Uhuru ((98%) firm grasp on issues (with ready solutions) Introduced himself as a Kenyan family man, paying due homage to the Key institution, the home. ranging from cattle rustling to education to national healing, tribalism, raising funds and the 2007 election. His idea to enrich pastoralism by enhancing their range management skills won me over, we can make pastrolist rich without really commercializing ranching, a pro-green idea. Pleaded his case for leadership sincerely with the people. Good oratory, confident stature and talked directly to the audience/interviewers.
There was a question during the debate from Linus about how UK plans to govern with ICC cases trailing him. What is the PLAN if he cared to answer? Like if parliament passes a bill when he's still out there,how will he be assenting them? How about chairing cabinet and national security committees? Protocol issues when travelling for the hearings? @Much Know, Please share that the answer the high scoring presidential candidate gave. I have stated this here many times, what kind of logic would lead a democratically elected president to continue attending to Hague if you ask yourself that question? Even from ICC perspective, why? Have you not heard various candidates asking that this cases be brought back home? Do you think this cannot be done once UK is president? The fact is that UK cannot state the obvious/most logical route if he is elected publicly in such a debate because it will cause unnecessary confusion amongst wanjikus who do not understand the whole process around ICC. Some, even here in wazua wrongly believe ICC is a "Superior International Court", trying to explain to the public this elements is next to impossible hence the stance that after election , "i will continue to clear my name", he will do this but believe me, not from Hague.  And the answer was?
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Manyala wrote:Much Know wrote:mkeiyd wrote:Much Know wrote:
8. Uhuru ((98%) firm grasp on issues (with ready solutions) Introduced himself as a Kenyan family man, paying due homage to the Key institution, the home. ranging from cattle rustling to education to national healing, tribalism, raising funds and the 2007 election. His idea to enrich pastoralism by enhancing their range management skills won me over, we can make pastrolist rich without really commercializing ranching, a pro-green idea. Pleaded his case for leadership sincerely with the people. Good oratory, confident stature and talked directly to the audience/interviewers.
There was a question during the debate from Linus about how UK plans to govern with ICC cases trailing him. What is the PLAN if he cared to answer? Like if parliament passes a bill when he's still out there,how will he be assenting them? How about chairing cabinet and national security committees? Protocol issues when travelling for the hearings? @Much Know, Please share that the answer the high scoring presidential candidate gave. I have stated this here many times, what kind of logic would lead a democratically elected president to continue attending to Hague if you ask yourself that question? Even from ICC perspective, why? Have you not heard various candidates asking that this cases be brought back home? Do you think this cannot be done once UK is president? The fact is that UK cannot state the obvious/most logical route if he is elected publicly in such a debate because it will cause unnecessary confusion amongst wanjikus who do not understand the whole process around ICC. Some, even here in wazua wrongly believe ICC is a "Superior International Court", trying to explain to the public this elements is next to impossible hence the stance that after election , "i will continue to clear my name", he will do this but believe me, not from Hague. And the answer was? @ Much Know still waiting ....the answer was? The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts while the stupid ones are full of confidence
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QD wrote:Manyala wrote:Much Know wrote:mkeiyd wrote:Much Know wrote:
8. Uhuru ((98%) firm grasp on issues (with ready solutions) Introduced himself as a Kenyan family man, paying due homage to the Key institution, the home. ranging from cattle rustling to education to national healing, tribalism, raising funds and the 2007 election. His idea to enrich pastoralism by enhancing their range management skills won me over, we can make pastrolist rich without really commercializing ranching, a pro-green idea. Pleaded his case for leadership sincerely with the people. Good oratory, confident stature and talked directly to the audience/interviewers.
There was a question during the debate from Linus about how UK plans to govern with ICC cases trailing him. What is the PLAN if he cared to answer? Like if parliament passes a bill when he's still out there,how will he be assenting them? How about chairing cabinet and national security committees? Protocol issues when travelling for the hearings? @Much Know, Please share that the answer the high scoring presidential candidate gave. I have stated this here many times, what kind of logic would lead a democratically elected president to continue attending to Hague if you ask yourself that question? Even from ICC perspective, why? Have you not heard various candidates asking that this cases be brought back home? Do you think this cannot be done once UK is president? The fact is that UK cannot state the obvious/most logical route if he is elected publicly in such a debate because it will cause unnecessary confusion amongst wanjikus who do not understand the whole process around ICC. Some, even here in wazua wrongly believe ICC is a "Superior International Court", trying to explain to the public this elements is next to impossible hence the stance that after election , "i will continue to clear my name", he will do this but believe me, not from Hague. And the answer was? @ Much Know still waiting ....the answer was? The answer was very clear, He said "If the people of Kenya elect me as president i will continue to clear my name and serve the people of Kenya"!! Of course that will be here in Kenya if elected, it is obvious to those who can take their time to analyze the answer. Even rao started asking muite to take him to hague so he can benefit from the public perception of Uhuruto accepting as heroic men to carry the cross, the weight of Kenya's ethnic division squarely on their shoulders! We Kenyans fought, but these two took responsibility honorably as men, when falsely accused, without pointing fingers at tribes or people, or munigki, while others hid themselves, they therefore have the moral authority once elected to bring justice home for everyone, unlike those who excused themselves! Ras Kienyeji Man
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/6/2008 Posts: 3,588
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These cases are personal challenges as UK put it, we cannot demand that he predicts the future of these cases, for instance if charges are dropped tomorrow, then what becomes of his explanation that "i am ready to rule via skype at hague", what if they are sent to Arusha, what if the suggestion by ICC to have sections heard here and others in hague prevail? the answer is simple, i am cooperating, and i will continue to clear my name as the case may be. If Rao faces a challenge where he has to go for brain surgery again, what will he do? This is speculation, but if it happens, it is a personal challenge. UK cannot speculate, but he confirmed he will continue to clear his name, there is no other, or better explanation. Ras Kienyeji Man
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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Ipsos: says the poll is not refelective of the national poll but gives the figures below:...poll carried out among 1074 respondents who either watched the debate or listened via radio!!! UK 40%, RAO 33%, PK 7%, MM 4&, MK 2% and 7% undecided!!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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McReggae wrote:Ipsos: says the poll is not refelective of the national poll but gives the figures below:...poll carried out among 1074 respondents who either watched the debate or listened via radio!!!
UK 40%, RAO 33%, PK 7%, MM 4&, MK 2% and 7% undecided!!!! maneno ndiyo hayo. i believe 99% of kenyans watched the debate right? i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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12m Willis Raburu Willis Raburu @WillisRaburu Wolf: We cannot conclude who.is leading.nationally but AMONG those who watched..Uhuru is leading cc @citizentvnews Expand i.am.back!!!!
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