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#31 Posted : Tuesday, February 12, 2013 8:52:34 AM
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I take my child to Gertrude's and I can attest that it's the best hospital you can take your kid for consultation as they won't have to guess as much as others who don't just specialise in kids do. Chances are that they've come across most things your kid would be suffering from.

BBI will solve it :)
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McReggae
#32 Posted : Tuesday, February 12, 2013 8:59:42 AM
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2012 wrote:
I take my child to Gertrude's and I can attest that it's the best hospital you can take your kid for consultation as they won't have to guess as much as others who don't just specialise in kids do. Chances are that they've come across most things your kid would be suffering from.


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QD
#33 Posted : Tuesday, February 12, 2013 11:41:21 AM
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McReggae wrote:
2012 wrote:
I take my child to Gertrude's and I can attest that it's the best hospital you can take your kid for consultation as they won't have to guess as much as others who don't just specialise in kids do. Chances are that they've come across most things your kid would be suffering from.


Hata mimi!!!


Granted but sometimes the urge to get money for this hospitals out way the moral obligation to alleviate pain in the young ones.

My most memorable was when my 7 months old was diagnosed to be having acute inflammation and needed admitting to monitor in Nairobi hospital. The young fella was teething.
The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts while the stupid ones are full of confidence
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accelriskconsult
#34 Posted : Tuesday, February 12, 2013 12:16:15 PM
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I have a 2 year old and have taken him to Gertrude's several times. The doctors who have treated him have been ok except for this young fellow that I once found in the Nairobi West Branch. My son was six months old then. I left the doctors room and when I came back I found my wife nearly breaking in to tears..the mshenzi had scared her by telling her that my son's head was abnormal because one of the soft spots on his head had not closed.

I refused to let him treat my son and took him elsewhere. He lacked basic skills taught at medical school. He was keen on finding out my wife's and my tribe which struck me as not just odd, but plain idiotic. When I asked the nurses what was wrong with the young man, they informed me that he was a clinical officer. I still do take my son to Gertrude's but I know that walking away that day was one of the best decisions that I have ever made.
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mjuaji wa stocks
#35 Posted : Tuesday, February 12, 2013 12:35:54 PM
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I made thet same mistake once and took my son to getrudes ..... just to discover that the Drs there are just Medical officers- - fresh graduates.


I have never repeated the same again.... so if you think gertrudes is the best for children .... think again.

How many consultants paediatricians are on permanent pay roll by gerties?

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Rahatupu
#36 Posted : Tuesday, February 12, 2013 12:50:35 PM
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mjuaji wa stocks wrote:
I made thet same mistake once and took my son to getrudes ..... just to discover that the Drs there are just Medical officers- - fresh graduates.


I have never repeated the same again.... so if you think gertrudes is the best for children .... think again.

How many consultants paediatricians are on permanent pay roll by gerties?

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I think its all over these private hospitals, the Docs collude with the admin in fleecing poor patients off their money. Its painful to see a Dr recommend admission (esp when insurance is involved) for simple common cold ailments.

I recall, Aga Khan Mombasa recommended admission for my son after 2 days he was ok, (all over the hospital and playful kama kawaida after a bout of tonsilitis), the Dr, insisted that he spends 4 more days. We discharged without her consent.
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Blackberry
#37 Posted : Tuesday, February 12, 2013 12:50:52 PM
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QD wrote:


Granted but sometimes the urge to get money for this hospitals out way the moral obligation to alleviate pain in the young ones.

My most memorable was when my 7 months old was diagnosed to be having acute inflammation and needed admitting to monitor in Nairobi hospital. The young fella was teething.


Its good to engage the doc to know what is going on and if something feels not right it probably isnt. had the same experience at Gertrude NBI West.... baby had a night cough( She would be fine Mchana but occasionally wake usiku wa manane coz of the cough) so kupimwa, babygal had no fever and chest declared clear. The young Doc diagnoses upper respiratory something....and prescribes Ventolin, benylin and a pain killer syrup( jina nimesahau) when I challenged him about the Ventolin yet he said the chest is clear he said he is prescribing the dawa but I didnt have to give the baby If i didnt want to......Sad Sad eeh Id expected an antibiotic but Doc said NO coz There was no Infection yet....so went home and bought Kavol. Id poured a few drops on a hunky and hung it near her pillow...n' voila! The Homa/Cough Gone in two or so days.



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jguru
#38 Posted : Tuesday, February 12, 2013 1:01:53 PM
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mjuaji wa stocks wrote:
I rarely agree with impunity but here he has a point.

I am in the medical world and any time; i better go to shugs and take Oleparrmunyo for my flu than buy conventional antihistamines.

Our traditional way of raising our children is far much better than this westernized way.

And am sure by now the complainants baby but have been injected several vaccines - i then ask; do this vaccines help?? I tend to think they may in the contrary lower our immunity instead.

Surely; from 1 month ukianza kudungwa ma shindano; is there any room left for natural immunity to develop?

It is a conspiracy well known world wide to reduce the world's population to 500m people - call me a conspiracy theorist - but that is a fact.

If you dont believe; ask obama and co wakupe certificates of immunization of their children .... Acheni mchezo --- let the children grow naturally!


Mjuaji, sijui niseme? Sad

Strange. You are in the "medical world" and you think vaccines are a conspiracy.

In the first 9 months of life of a child, after immunization, their bodies will have the immunity to fight TB, Polio, Diphtheria, Pertusis (Whooping Cough), Tetanus, Hepatitis B, Haemphilus Influenza and Measles.

If the world's children did not receive immunizations, very few of us would be around to enjoy this world. And yes, immunizations happen in every country, including the US.

Sample this:

"In the US, before 1963, more than 3 million cases of measles and 500 deaths from measles were reported each year. More than 90% of children had measles by age 15. In 2002, there were 44 cases of measles." In 2011, there were a total of 222 measles cases. (US Population: 311 million people)

"In the US, before 1985, Haemophilus Influenzae caused serious infections in 20,000 children each year, including meningitis (12,000 cases) and pneumonia (7,500 cases). In 2002, there were 34 cases of Hib disease."
Set out to correct the world's wrongs and you will most certainly wind up adding to them.
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ZZE123
#39 Posted : Tuesday, February 12, 2013 4:23:48 PM
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Dash wrote:
You guy, my son is asthmatic and predsol is only prescribed when his attacks are severe and the doc makes sure to constantly inform us that predsol is not to be played around with. And am with maka on this, my kid only sees docs older than 50 years old

Today I spent the better part of the day consulting a pediatrician who is well experienced since he looked to be in his late 40’s. He advised me that Predsol is a steroid that helps activate some muscles for Asthmatic people, and Ventoline should never be administered to a child below 3 years even then all other drugs must have failed to work since it affects immunity. He actually did not believe I got the prescription from Gertrude’s for my son and I had to get the drugs so he could see the label is from Gertrude’s. He examined the child and assured me the cough will go away in a few days and no medicine is required for now.
The man who marries a beautiful woman, and the farmer who grows corn by the roadside have the same problem
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ZZE123
#40 Posted : Tuesday, February 12, 2013 4:26:41 PM
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Am wrote:
Gordon Gekko wrote:
ZZE123 wrote:
Impunity wrote:
ZZE123 wrote:
@ Elder – am currently hosting a relative who is a Nurse from abroad and when she saw the drugs she raised the alarm
@ Robbinhood – He is my Second Born. Been lucky with my first born as she has rarely needed to visit doctors
@MC – Yes I have heard things about the drugs and I heard them this morning.
For the record I have nothing against Gertrude’s and just want to hear the opinion of Doctors or Pharmacists in the house.


Peleka mtoto aishi ushago kama Murang'a valley hivi, aliwe na jiggers huku na huko matakoni until he reaches 5 years then bring him to the city. You will never regret for the natural immunity he will develop from the rural set-up.

My parents never regretted for raising me that way, whereas my friend who was raised in the former posh Parklands is a shadow of myself; both of us are middle aged adults now!

You can bank this proven theory in the UNAITAS Githurai branch or throw it in Nairobi dam.


@Impunity – I bet you have no kids so I won’t respond.Sad Sad


Sorry mate, but I'm with @impunity on this one.



Additional to @Impunity..Here (@Gordon) Comes another young man who does not understand the pain of seeing a kid suffer. This is Impunity and carelessness..

@ZZE123..I have a 5 month old who's been to Gertrudes 2 - 3 times and I have been dissatisfied with the service from 25 year old "Doctors". Do not know where else to go..

Sad Sad Sad Soon they will now how it feels when a child is in pain
The man who marries a beautiful woman, and the farmer who grows corn by the roadside have the same problem
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