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Wakanyugi
#111 Posted : Friday, February 08, 2013 10:01:31 AM
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Impunity wrote:
Do trees register pain?


I believe this subject was concluded by the great Larry Watson years ago.

Plants register emotions like fear and joy. Meaning they must register pain as well.

Some plants actually shrink away when you touch them.
"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
Wakanyugi
#112 Posted : Friday, February 08, 2013 10:04:48 AM
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"By being I mean things with consciousness,like human beings have. I believe we are in a perpetual state of being but that leaves so many interesting possibilities"

There you go again. Losing me with long words.

What is consciousness?

Is it a quality limited to only to human-beings?

Do tree-beings, rock-beings, water-beings, fire-beings etc have consciousness?

"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
Wakanyugi
#113 Posted : Friday, February 08, 2013 10:10:37 AM
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"Can I be allowed to do this in a different thread? I intend to start one on 'Post Modern Cosmology' maybe tomorrow?"

Yes you can Tycho.

Let me know when the thread is up.

I look forward to reading your proof of space and time.


"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
mlefu
#114 Posted : Friday, February 08, 2013 10:26:45 AM
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Why does English have so many words when wazua has landing, plugs and sockets!!! Lady admin..your site is under siege.

Impunity
#115 Posted : Friday, February 08, 2013 11:12:12 AM
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Wakanyugi wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Do trees register pain?


I believe this subject was concluded by the great Larry Watson years ago.

Plants register emotions like fear and joy. Meaning they must register pain as well.

Some plants actually shrink away when you touch them.


The flora that collapses certain leaves/shoots do so to capture food but not in reaction to pain.
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ChessMaster
#116 Posted : Friday, February 08, 2013 7:44:54 PM
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Impunity wrote:
Do trees register pain?


How?
Uncertainty is certain.Let go
ChessMaster
#117 Posted : Friday, February 08, 2013 7:47:22 PM
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Wakanyugi wrote:


"By being I mean things with consciousness,like human beings have. I believe we are in a perpetual state of being but that leaves so many interesting possibilities"

There you go again. Losing me with long words.

What is consciousness?

Is it a quality limited to only to human-beings?

Do tree-beings, rock-beings, water-beings, fire-beings etc have consciousness?



Consciousness is awareness of your will.Anything that is aware of its will is conscious.
Uncertainty is certain.Let go
ChessMaster
#118 Posted : Friday, February 08, 2013 7:48:52 PM
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mlefu wrote:
Why does English have so many words when wazua has landing, plugs and sockets!!! Lady admin..your site is under siege.



Maybe its just vals.Me I'd like more sharing less talking.

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Uncertainty is certain.Let go
josiah33
#119 Posted : Friday, February 08, 2013 8:54:33 PM
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ChessMaster wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Do trees register pain?


How?

This is not philosophy but i just want to share it-

Quote:
Every stroke of those pruning shears could have the average shrub writhing in agony. Researchers in Bonn, Germany, found plants give off a gas when under 'attack'.

Super-sensitive microphones picked up a 'bubbling' sound from a healthy plant. But this rose to a piercing screech when it was under threat. Even a tiny insect bite could have an effect.

'The more a plant is subjected to stress, the louder the signal,' said Dr Frank K¸hnemann. Plants do not actually scream in pain. But different sounds are heard when the gas they emit, ethylene, is bombarded with lasers.

The research could help to work out which pieces of fruit and vegetables are likely to stay fresh longer, as a cucumber which is starting to go off produces a squealing sound. It could then be separated from the fresher ones.

Fruit exporters are already showing interest in the research. Wolfgang Praetorius, of Cologne- based Fruchthansa, said: 'Individual pieces of fruit could be tested after being harvested. We'd know which ones to ship together.'

D r K ¸ h n e m a n n believes plants give off ethylene to warn others of an 'attack'. He said: 'Perhaps plants and trees are 'talking to each other.'


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So, maybe plants feel pain in their own special way.....
ChessMaster
#120 Posted : Friday, February 08, 2013 11:02:57 PM
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@josiah33 - Anything you share is philosophy and I appreciate it.Please share more

@all - Someone tell me how to turn of my mind.Its driving me crazy.I need to let go,I'm too aware of too many things.That's why I'm a loner,I have too many comments.Uchokozi nayo.Wah!Leo av decided on wazua.Let me log off.

Politics is a platform for people to air their philosophical views on how to deal with life

@Wakanyugi - You seem like you want to talk psychology.We can.
Uncertainty is certain.Let go
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